#200 In honor of the podcast’s 200th episode today, I’m here with the wonderful Matt Omo to talk about the ten Live In Flow commandments. During our conversation today, we discuss the positive effects of living a more heart-centred life, the importance of challenging ourselves daily, practicing gratefulness, surrounding ourselves with a support system that will constantly push us to be better, and the power of saying no. I sincerely hope that these commandments resonate with you and that you are able to incorporate some of them into your daily lives.
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About Matt: Matt Omo is a leader of the sound healing movement in Australia with over 15 years of experience working with a variety of sound healing techniques bridging cultures and traditions from around the world. The work and awareness around sound healing and its benefits are growing every day. Matt is developing new programs and products to meet this need and continue to support people in discovering the benefits of the healing power of sound.
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Key points with time stamp:
- The Live In Flow Ten Commandments | Guy & Matt Omo (00:00)
- “Ask yourself daily: What Would Love Do?” (02:45)
- Nurturing oneself and what it looks like (04:18)
- Removing toxins from our lives and what it entails (07:30)
- The importance of challenging yourself daily (15:16)
- Daily act of kindness (18:05)
- Make a list of all you’re grateful for (19:50)
- Daily Meditation (22:00)
- Surround yourself with people who hold you accountable (27:26)
- “If it’s not a hell yes, it’s a no!” (32:39)
- Bonus Live In Flow commandment: Lighten up (38:48)
Mentioned in this episode:
- David Hamilton
- The Five Side Effects of Kindness, 2017. A book by Dr. David Hamilton
Matt’s Website:
omosoundjourneys.com
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www.instagram.com/guyhlawrence/?hl=en
My website:
www.guylawrence.com.au
www.liveinflow.co
TRANSCRIPT
Please note, this is an automated transcript so it is not 100% accurate.
Guy 00:01
The thing I wanted to mention, I got about nine things I wanted to mention straight off the bat. But the first one is, most people believe or not will be living in this post Facebook life. So for you, if you listen listening to this after we recorded not live, we do have a Facebook, live in flow community group. That’s free public access. So just type in live in flow community. And you can come and join us as we stream more podcasts in there in the future outside of that. Welcome to officially Matt, can you believe this? This is my 200th episode of the polio right. So welcome. Welcome to number 200. I was actually thinking mate, oh my God, my 200th episode before Christmas. And before the retreat, what can I do the super special and I run out of ideas. So invited you along?
Matt 01:11
Yeah. Well, you gone back up?
Guy 01:15
No, no, you make a special this whole idea was from your genius thinking. And I thought, Wow, fantastic. So just to put everyone in the picture. We, I think into the fourth day now outside of our maiden voyage of our five night retreat, here in northern New South Wales, in Australia, and yeah, we four days off the back end of that. And it was absolutely phenomenal. Very proud and a little bit achy, but we good. We’re here, and we streaming in. And during that retreat, what came up was we wanted to share post retreat, I guess, tenants principles, commandments, that we kind of had a bit of fun with as well. But for the participants there. So then Mike came up with this brilliant idea. Let’s make that a podcast. Not only the people that come out the retreat, can re listen to it to remind themselves to go Oh, yeah, that’s right. The other thing was as well is for the new people just listening in. might be something to ponder on as well. Moving forward, you know, so, yeah, we’ve got the live in flow. 10 commandments, we’ve called them at the moment. Is there anything you’d like to add to all this map before we dive in?
Matt 02:32
No, I think you nailed it. I mean, yeah, that’s it. Let’s, let’s get into it. We got limited time here at 10 of them, we got only like four minutes for each one. Yeah. I know how you are when you get talking.
Guy 02:45
And by the way, these are not set in stone. These are hours that we come up with we come up with, and you can make them whatever you want. But if they resonate, there might be something you want to bring into your life on a daily basis. So number one, drumroll. Ask yourself daily. What would love do? I’ll let you speak to that.
Matt 03:06
Yeah, that’s a game changer. I think that’s a that’s one of your tenants, isn’t it? That’s where that’s come from? Yeah, Paul
Guy 03:15
check brought it up on the podcast couple of years ago, as well as like, yeah. Great reminder.
Matt 03:20
Now as a huge reminder, I find that that’s some something to even meditate on. As I mentioned in the retreat, it’s like if you have a meditation practice daily, where you sit in a space where you just ponder that question, what would love do? What would love to can give you insight can give you inspiration, as well as then it drops you into place just in your heart, basically. Right? So at any point in your life, when you’re making choices or in conversation or in communication in relationship, if you can get into your heart, you’re on the right track, I reckon so it’s instant heart. engager
Guy 03:59
Yes. So the next time you’re in a in a heated battle with your loved one, or you’re just about to because you didn’t fold the towels correctly, or something, you know, you know how it goes. And it like it says perfect place to drop into your heart and go okay, what would love to right now? And great reminder. All right, beautiful. Number two. Number two as well I like this because you know, when you think about the yin and the yang, and sometimes we need to push in sometimes we need to go soft, and we need to complement each other. coming out the back of the retreat was a big one was to nurture yourself. And, and it’s something that we actually don’t start to do. Very often, I think especially in a very driven world. And we got nurture self from body, mind, emotion, and spirit. So how does that look for you mate with those four?
Matt 04:55
Yeah, well, I think that we tend to when we when we get in To realise when we start trying to create things, set goals to, you know, be successful we, we drive drive drive, and we connect to our workforce we push sometimes, and then that tends to throw us out of whack. And we’ll a lot of times, push until we fall down. And then we’re forced to actually be on our backs, which we know some people like that. And the fact that it’s body, mind, emotion, and spirit, then really starts to speak to us as a whole. And I think it’s easy to say, oh, yeah, nurture my body, or get a massage, or I’ll have a bath, or I’ll do things like that. But there’s other aspects of ourselves, which is, you know, Meditation allows me to nurture my mind, reading new information, listening to your podcasts, you know, nurtures my mind. Like don’t nurture your emotions, I think emotions, let yourself feel any way I can express myself, I do that through sound a lot, that some that allows emotions to move, journaling, that kind of stuff, and then nurture my spirits is, um, I think the big thing to nurture my spirit is just to get into nature. So that kind of is an overarching kind of ways that I do it and, and why I do it.
Guy 06:14
Yeah, it is interesting, because now coming off post retreat, because it was literally a whole week for us, you know, we got the day before, then we’ve got leading up to the retreat. So we carrying a lot, we’re actually then getting into this, this, this element of we’re in the driver in the wheel, as things are moving forward, then at the retreat, we’re holding space, and we’re doing, you know, 14-16 hour days, ourselves. Along with that, and, you know, we come in and out, it’s a big, big week, you know, even though I love it, I get high off it, like, you know, it’s just like this this moment, but then, when you come out the back end, only a few years ago, I would have still probably been doing the driving a bit more. And one thing we’ve made sure we do this time is really nurture, the body, the mind, emotions, and the Spirit coming out the back end as well, right. And it’s paying dividends, even though this part to me, like getting it back, you know, like you can get, you can get back on the, I guess the excitement of it all. But there’s been no, this is the time and the more I’ve got in tune with myself and my body and my you know, in the practices, the more you start to gauge when you’re on and off, and when you know you need to nurture or when you’re just being lazy. And then you need to stem step into, you know, inspired action, you know, so yeah, so something I wanted to mention in there, you want to do you want to hit number three son?
Matt 07:39
Yeah. Number three is remove toxins, which is something that’s critical in our modern world. And then we’ve got the four components there underneath that. So remove toxic information, remove toxic foods. And like you mentioned during the retreat, like the key factors there is just take out processed food and sugar, and you can transform your diet, you know, just those two things alone. Remove toxic people done that a lot in the last year. And then thoughts and feelings, those. And you said well, what’s a what’s a toxic thought and feeling. And to me, that’s a thought or feelings that doesn’t support me from living fully. So I think that it’s typical that we would say a toxic thought or feeling could be anger, or what’s perceived as a negative emotion. And that’s not true, like negative emotions are just as beneficial as positive emotions. And I don’t even like to put those labels on them. It’s like just we need to express ourselves and allow ourselves to feel but when they go over the edge and they consume us, that’s where we start to get into trouble. And so it’s, you know, are you afraid to move through your life without being over emotional and reactive? In your in yourself?
Guy 08:52
Yeah, you know, what came to mind then with the thoughts and feelings that that don’t support living fully, because what you say is spot on, because I know there’s confusion around that. But another way to look at it as well is like I’m, I’m a thinking of feeling based out of fear. Or am I doing this from an expansive point as well. And I think that will start to lead into the toxicity of it all. You know? Absolutely. From there, people. Yeah, no explanation needed there. You know, it’s interesting as well, like, there’s there’s definitely an element of that as you start to shine brighter as you step into your true self. You’re going to rub people up the wrong way. But but it’s it’s not up to us to change them. It’s up to us to embody our true self. And then they do what they want with that, you know? Yeah, that’s, that’s a big one.
Matt 09:52
Yeah, well stay in your lane. I mean, if if you’re, whether you’re growing or not growing, whatever you do, it doesn’t matter. You’re going to upset people. Just, you know, just how people are like people, people that don’t take responsibility, you know, if we, if we don’t take responsibility for ourselves and the way that we perceive the world, then we’re always going to be angry at somebody else or something else. Yeah. But at the crux of it is what’s going on inside of us. And there’s not a lot of people on the planet that actually living from that place, which is why we get so many clients.
Guy 10:28
Well, you know, and you know, then I lean back into the food for second processed foods and, and also, you know, refined sugar, and processed carbohydrates in these things. You know, it that is a game changer removing, but what a lot of people don’t realise is how much that is actually affecting their they thoughts, and their feelings. And their blood sugars. Like you, if you’re sitting there meditating daily, trying to overcome an aspect of yourself, and then you’re, you’re sending your blood sugar levels through the roof unknowingly, or you’re always snacking, and you’re always hungry. You know, right, there’s alarm bells going your leptin hormones that are your appetite off, switches out, like there’s all these things that are starting to happen within your body. And you’re just pushing it uphill, you’re making things way harder, and you’re addicted, and you got to cut that toxicity to it. But then, of course, is a bit of pain through that. And it’s massive. And I’m starting to get on my soapbox, I’m going to pull off a bit, but it drives me nuts. None of this has even been mentioned over the last two years, right? Like now the most
Matt 11:39
critical what? Where’s he gone? No, nobody knows what the biology is in the actual things that create our feelings are biological reactions or chemical reaction, right? And I couldn’t, one of the big game changers for me was to realise that my, my biochemistry was off and then to actually go get nutritional support and then start working in a direction that created a balance of my zinc, my bees, and my, you know, all the different levels in my makeup and my composite. What do you call it? Composition? Is that set? Right? I know. It’s just correct me if I say stupid shit happens sometimes. But yeah, once I figured that out, then it was like, Oh, well, I’m more I can be more clear and more focused, because my, I have a foundation to stand on. Whereas before I didn’t, and that also lend in into drinking alcohol. Like, you know, drinking alcohol was such a common thing. I have a glass of wine here, a couple beers here, whatever. And it’s no big deal. But because my biochemistry didn’t have a strong foundation, it would knock me for a loop. And I spent two or three days actually feeling depressed and lethargic and flat, and like, Oh, why is everything so wrong? And it’s like, you can’t it doesn’t matter how much you meditate, if you don’t have the actual foods and the nutrition, then support that biochemistry, and then and then the state of being, you’re already always on the backfoot Yeah, and so that was a huge game changer for me. And stigma is to pull that out, realise where I’m at, get a foundation and then move from there.
Guy 13:11
And then and then and then having a glass of wine or a bit of alcohol or a bit of chocolate becomes a celebration, and it becomes something that you’re, you’re in a very different state, when when consuming it as opposed normally we use them as emotion and stress reduces. Okay, as opposed to actually we’re already in our open, beautiful state and then coming at it from a celebrated state. Like I still have a nice piece of chocolate sugar does pass by lips now. It’s rare, but it does. And when I do I really enjoy it. But if I have too much now, it’s like this cat food. Like I’d rather eat that you know what I mean? So it’s just from the balance.
Matt 13:50
That’s it. Let’s move on.
Guy 13:52
We’re gonna be here. Alright, so toxic information. You know what information we’re talking about the like, yeah, look after your nervous system because that’s jarring. Okay, number four.
Matt 14:04
Go put on their child playdates and so a lot of times in the work we we start to connect with our inner child or childlike essence is a part of us it’s to me that’s creativity its spirit its source it’s slow that essence of ourselves of our soul is childlike, is playful is in a place of awe and wonder. And that if we create a regular routine so we call it the play date, and I’m actually got this one from the artists way. So Julia Cameron, this was one of the practices that you did weekly was that you take your inner child on a on a playdate and you just listened to what it wants to do and you go do that, you know, whether it’s, you know, run around through run through a fountain or something screaming your head off or go to the toy store and shoot other kids with don’t do that. If you’re my age. It can be scary. You get arrested but yeah, Yeah, do something fun and playful is what it comes down to. Because I think we take life too seriously.
Guy 15:08
Totally. And I bet you were a mischievous child as well.
Matt 15:12
Never know.
Guy 15:16
I love it. Number five, one thing to challenge yourself daily. Yeah, it’s, again, critical, right? Like, how often do we shy away from any kind of discomfort, you know, and then and then, but then what I also and I do this in my own life, because I look as exercises a nice way of challenge as well, you know, or, you know, if you if you want to speak out when you don’t, or you want to address something that might be hard to tackle. But you know, when your heart you need to address it, there’s a challenge there. And there’s growth, and I’ve found myself over time as well just stick into the comfortable challenges, you know, and, and, but, but a lot, so much growth comes from, from that, for sure. And, and we’re always reflecting and looking back, and even after the retreat, you know, we use a huge challenge for us stepping into five nights, but we didn’t bite off more than we could chew. We, you know, we did the work leading up to that there was a lot of growth that came from that, and, and then we can step back and feel rewarded in our efforts from the challenges, we’ve certainly uplevel the more but then we, you know, we get to reflect and look upon that things and what could we could have done better or different. And then the next challenge is, comes through. For sure.
Matt 16:38
Exactly. Well, yeah, growth growth happens outside the comfort zone. Right. That’s, that’s the phrase. So if you’re doing that you’re pushing yourself beyond that, then you’re encouraging growth, I think it’s become unfortunately, it’s become a cultural aspect of our culture to avoid discomfort. Like that’s, that’s a cultural thing. And it’s, it’s something that’s nurtured and marketed and, you know, how comfortable can we be? What weird fandangled gadget can we get to ensure more comfort and more security? Because we’re so uncomfortable and insecure and ourselves. And we wonder why we can get thrown and manipulated so quickly as a society? Yeah, it’s quite a quite an interesting disease.
Guy 17:30
It’s a big one. That’s why That’s why I spot every week. Yeah, it’s uncomfortable. I can tell ya. Yeah, I was slightly five years doing it doesn’t get comfortable.
Matt 17:47
You build that resilience, then you build the resilience is humbling. And you? Yeah, you meet other than you meet other situations that are uncomfortable. A lot more easily.
Guy 17:58
With Ease and grace. Ease and grace. Yes. All right. All right. Go for number six.
Matt 18:05
I will make it a good run here. Well, hmm. Random Acts of Kindness daily. That’s pretty self explanatory. To me, an act of kindness is a it’s a backdoor way into gratitude. When I feel so crap, they’re so down about something that I just can’t find my way out. Doing something for someone else then takes me out of the equation. So all that that big, dark cloud that I might be hiding under just goes to the side, and I circum navigate that to find something good for someone else. And then that actually pulls me out from underneath it. Yes, it’s a powerful thing to do. Selfless, but selfish at the same time, because you’re going to benefit.
Guy 18:55
Yeah, a lot more. A lot more. I think we’re, I had the Dr. David Hamilton on a few episodes ago. And he he wrote a book called The side effects of kindness. And, and he was talking about the like, because he’s very analytical mathematical guy, like, you know, and he talked about the ripple effect of what how one act of kindness actually then ripples on to effect five more people kind of figured that out. So you’re not only one person, it’s actually then rippling on making them feel a certain way. It’s just passing through through five people. So they think, wow, if we all had a moment of being selfless for a moment, you know, and did that? Yeah. Yeah.
Matt 19:47
Sure. Simple. Yep.
Guy 19:50
Okay, number seven.
Matt 19:53
Number seven. Is the whole gratitude list. Yeah, definitely. very critical component to well being.
Guy 20:03
Yeah. And it can be challenging sometimes, right? If you if you sit in in your own shit, and you know, things are tough to actually feel into gratitude. And
Matt 20:14
yeah, well, that’s the key what you just said there feel into gratitude. I think some people try this practice of writing a gratitude list. And then this doesn’t work, because it just, it just becomes a routine just right now not actually feeling to it. So that’s critical for you the gratitude.
Guy 20:35
Yeah, I remember, when I was on my own transition, trying to find my path, gratitude was way at the forefront. And I did grapple with it for a while. But when the penny started to land, and I was willing to accept the circumstances I was in, then I was starting to change my internal state, because there’s always a lag time before the outside world catches up with the shifts on the inside. So it shifts inside and then resonates out in our world starts to change around us, when I fully started to understand that and get that and really lean into the gratitude practice was still comes to me with this day, you know, it only takes a moment to put your hand on your heart, feel into your heart, breathe into your heart, and start to envisage and see the, the faces the things or the circumstances in your life that you can find gratitude for. It’s all around us, we just need to bring our awareness and attention to it. And to allow it to feel and over time we then condition the body leans in, hey, we’ve even got the seven day to meditation, right? Which is all about leaning in free one, you can go on our website right now, if you haven’t, haven’t got it. And started practice that daily. You know, leaning in, feel very good. Very good. Okay, number eight. No brainer.
Matt 22:04
No brainer. daily meditation. Right? Yeah. Yep. And again, the seven day meditation.
Guy 22:14
Yeah, that’s right. And, and we always say, like, you know, can always make that joke was my main thing, while people I meditate can still be dickheads and stuff like that, not journalists interviewing me once. But the the thing that really resonates when you consider meditation is that if you have the ability to sit in your own stuff, and start to have an objective view of what’s going on within the body, and start to notice your frustrations, or whatever is bubbling up for you or feeling into it. That’s how we start to overcome it and become familiar with myself. And then from that place, we then able to start to carry that out into our daily life more, so we can start to, because as we go into our daily life, then obviously there’s a lot more curveballs, there’s a lot more challenges, you know, it can be challenging, but if we start to have these reference points from having a pride daily practice, we can then embody that with our eyes open in the real world. And I think that’s where a lot of this work starts to fall down. If it will, we can lump our interpretation of it differently. You know, it’s okay, I’ve done my meditation practice. You know, it’s like, often service Oh, yeah, I’ve done my, my, I’ve done my workout, I’m going to go and eat a ham, you know, hamburger for markers now. You know, it’s just like, it doesn’t lend to each other. So, I think that’s why having a regular practice, you know, to help remind us who we really are.
Matt 23:47
Yeah, I think it’s the, the soul of who we are, I think has been lost in our busy society, we’ve, we’ve kind of lost focus on our soul. And that, in essence, and I mean, what, what, you know, if you start going quantum with this, you realise that had to sorry. The material part of ourselves is but a fraction of what we are, I mean, is tiny. It’s like, you know, point 00000 You know, 13 zeros. 1% is actual matter, right? So 99 point 39% Is space, right? But we had here through the five senses to that very small point, percentage of ourselves as an identity. And then we do all these tasks and take all these actions and make all these choices based from that fractional component of who we are. And so, then we lean into this Oh, somebody told me to meditate I need to do this just because it’s supposed to be good for me kind of mentality. But we don’t actually pause enough to build a relationship to that vastness of what we are. And that if we do and when we do, it was what we’ve experienced. And what you know we’re teaching through the work is that there’s an access to this vastness of consciousness of potential of possibility, that is wanting to inform us in this virus and live through us as an extraordinary experience, if we let it. And when I come from that, and experience again, and again, and again, the profound effects of pausing, I mean, even just 10 minutes, like, I never just do 10 minutes, well, there are times when the kids jump on me, but, you know, a good meditation is like, 20 to 30 minutes. And then you know, if a solid one is more like an hour, but you can get benefit from five minutes of just sitting in acknowledging that source. And I find if I do that, racing, take a pause, five minutes, boom, connect the source louder, to feed through me, and just ponder what we’d love to do. For example, the first tenet, my whole day, is in flow is ease is like, you know, synchronistic things happen, doors open, people come into my life, car, parks, open coffees, fly them, you know, it’s like, oh, all kinds of juicy, amazing things happen, because I took that moment to connect to that larger potential of who I am. And that’s all it takes. And that over time, then that becomes the reality. Not this five cents, 3d dimensional limitation that we sit in and perplex upon and find conflict, and challenge with day after day after day, doesn’t have to be the way that we are perpetuating it. I think, I don’t know. I just wish that the world would find the soul again, and realise that there’s so much more I mean, we leaned into this in the five day, didn’t we? Muscle that expands the spirit. That’s, that’s been kicking our butts to move forward with this work. It’s coming through loud and clear.
Guy 27:26
Well, you know, that’s, that’s one hell of an explanation right there. And but no, I’m glad you said it, because I, you know, I get carried away as well, if we get going. And, and the one thing, I just want to address that, which will lead into number nine is that though, if you hadn’t had that reference point before, or it’s been, well, we did, we all did as little you know, human beings coming out, you know, we’re there. But if we’ve, it’s been so long, we’ve forgotten our way home, how to connect, reconnect that hence why we call it reconnected, then of course, it’s going to feel very challenging to recreate that connection in that relationship. But once you have a glimpse, once you have even the finest finite of like, bits of light shining through that connection, come, then your whole world starts to change. And you start all of a sudden, you start to lean into optimism and opportunity and ignites the inspiration and the gratitude, and, and all the kindness and all the things that we lean in. Because there’s like the slither over here, like, oh, shit, I’ve just had a glimpse that actually, I’ll start to look back on the old self and say, You know what, I actually want more of this new stuff. And then of course, you you continue the labour of love dunya, you continue the practice, and you build that relationship. Right? And then it’s a game changer. And I really feel like that’s what’s going on in the world right now. It’s like, if we continue to push up against the old, we’re always going to get the resistance back. So it’s almost like we need to just let it go. And step into the new world step into how we want to see things like it’s almost like we need new systems, we need new ways of doing it. But the only way that’s going to happen is if we start to embody that, become that and then lean over there. So it’s like, Hey, we got we’re doing this over here do the old ways. You know, it’s worked this got us this far, but maybe we need a different approach now. And I think it’s a grassroots up personally, you know, when, why we passionately believe in what we’re doing so much to support this, you know?
Matt 29:57
Yep, absolutely. And then as we’re changing Tonight as we keep showing up in that new way of being and that new world that we’re wanting to create, we need to be held accountable, which moves us into number nine, doesn’t it? Yeah. Yeah. So that support team which, me it’s the main reason that I work with you. I don’t know why else I’d work with you
Guy 30:21
not come into alignment. Mike. Was that gone?
Matt 30:27
was Matt guy what he’s offered? offered the fairies again? Get him back in line. Yeah, yeah. It’s, it’s so good.
Guy 30:36
Yeah, look, accountability is critical. Like, when I look back, reflect upon my life. So there’s been times in my life where I felt frustrated, stuck, and coming up against myself. And then, you know, even though the work we do is helping everyone come to their own conclusion, their own answers, non wisdom that’s ever eternally there. Right, we often no need a perspective, or somebody to knock us into line or like be held accountable, because we know we’re going to slip back into the old ways. And, and along with that, I’ve always needed a roadmap, somebody else has taken the path before me, especially through different life decisions are made different businesses, I’ve had different mentors to be at this point now. And they’ve all been invaluable on my journey to allow me to there. But we get so caught up in materialism, we get so seduced by what we think we need to make us happy, we actually the last person we invest in is ourselves. You know, we don’t invest in, in our mental, emotional, physical, spiritual well being quite often because we’re always striving to what how we are perceived to have live. But when we start to turn that back in ourselves, and we have accountability, then it’s, again, it’s a game changer, and a community of support. Right? You know, so I don’t know when this podcast is going live. But we do have the, we got retreats coming up this year that will help you account, you know, if you want to dive in, there’ll be no hiding and then it lovingly, of course. And we also do have a four week programme coming up, where we’ll be holding coaching calls in there as well, in February, and then later in the year, different things. But hey, if you’re listening to this, you’re probably on our newsletter anyway. But it’s something to consider moving forward if you really want to create your change. Which then leads into even add anything to that. I just kind of
Matt 32:34
I think you got it right. Yeah. Yeah. Number 1010.
Guy 32:41
My favourite? If it’s not a Hell, yes, it’s a no. And reason why it’s my favourite is because I didn’t know how to say no, for a long time. In some respects, I was always worried about upsetting people, I was quite a quite empathic, empathetic, like, you know, you know, and, and I still have to work with that sometimes. But, but I found if, if it doesn’t resonate on all levels now, especially, you know, as we grow, we get out there more of the podcast is out there more, you know, Matt camp walked on Mullumbimby high street now without getting stopped. And compared to Chris Hemsworth. You know, it’s all happening, right?
Matt 33:31
You have, you have more Hemsworth moments than I do.
Guy 33:36
But the point being is I lost my train of thought that
Matt 33:46
he started thinking about for me, he didn’t know where to go.
Guy 33:50
He is often floating around, I’ll have to pull him up, mate, you know. But the point being is, if it doesn’t resonate with you, and we’re always giving, and we’re not coming back to nurturing the aspects of ourselves first, how can we expect to turn up and present the best version of ourselves to everyone in our lives. And I think that’s where we really false stuck. And we don’t actually give ourselves the time to do it. But by giving ourselves the time to do it, even though it might feel like really hard, because I don’t know the time and all the rest of it. But as we cultivate that practice, we can then start to step into our power, and then start to show up. So when things come through to me, I look at it if I get a slight flutter and my heart sinks a little bit or it’s just not, you know, it’s like nah, sorry, you know, so I can preserve myself. So then when it’s a yes, you’ll get you get in the hole of me. You know, we’re in whatever that might be from the smallest decision to the big ones. And I think it becomes very, very simple and make decisions, you know, kind of much in alignment, but it takes time. Do you wanna add anything to that? You’re pretty good at saying no make.
Matt 35:14
Em I thought it’s a bit like you, I guess, I guess you need to get bowled over by certain set chefs and things at times. Yeah. That’s a great one you bought that, I think I find that I tend to do things just when I’m like, Ah, it’s kind of good, but I don’t know. And I’ll just do it anyway, kind of thing. And then I just spend my energy out and I, you know, not focused, and it’s doing a lot of busy work, and where I could just do one thing, as a hell yes. And get the same benefits as doing the 10 things that were just like, kind of, you know.
Guy 35:57
And the thing to be mindful of as well, for everyone listening as well is that then we create space. And, and it’s by creating space, we allow new opportunity in. But if we are closing down that space, all the time of filling it up, just to keep ourselves busy and pleasing everyone else and doing the things, then how do we then create from that place? We don’t we get pushed along, we get pushed along by our problems and things and, and every day flies by every week, every, you know, months, even years. And the next thing I would blink and another five years ago, I’m like is like is that what we want? I don’t, you know, in life is very precious is a gift, you know, and we need to remind ourselves that because we were very good at forgetting. Yeah,
Matt 36:53
I think this also leads into something else that just come to mind was, you know, if we if we do things that aren’t how Yes, and we do things, because if we think oh, this is we don’t want to upset people or we feel guilty or sad that then we create a resentment within ourselves. And then that resentment just eats away at us. And it’s like, then that just throws us down even further. And it’s like, well, who are we, you know, that what what we desire is of the utmost importance, because, in essence, it’s our desires that are divine. Coming through the, you know, I mean, it’s like, you’re never going to be here again, I’m never going to be here. Again, we are a unique version of consciousness that has emerged for a specific reason, because it’s meant to be here. It’s, it’s divinely manifest, each individual being and life force that’s here right now. And that by denying that authentic choice and that desire, we actually denied source where it actually denying God, in essence, you know, and it’s like, we’re discrediting that and that, then we feel unfulfilled, and not on purpose, because we’re not listening to the impulses and inspiration that is guiding us to actually make the choices that we are denying, based on a faulty perception of faulty choice. And it’s like, well, no, feel our authentic self and realise that that’s a divine impulse, and move from there. And then you’re honouring source, Your Honour, our unconsciousness, and then you start to be on purpose, because your purpose is to do that, which inspires you because no one else can do that. But you. So it’s a big one. Big one.
Guy 38:48
That’s a hell yes. Right. Yes, yeah. Yeah. Wow. And number 11. You came up with this one? I think so we did. 10. But we had a bonus one for everyone.
Matt 39:01
Yeah, you can attend. We just had an on 11. Lucky 11. Right. Yeah, so it’s light in the fuck up. All right. Somebody Josh on the retreat out of the home to it. Yeah, this is like my mantra, I reckon, is it’s just like now, we take everything so seriously. And I think if you’re not having fun, you’re just gonna you just miss it, you miss life. You miss the juice, the you know, the essence of why we’re here is not to be serious and all of our own butts and, you know, create conflict and challenge. It’s about having a having a smile on your face as you step towards that grave. You know, at the end of the day, We’re all gonna die. So you can’t take it too seriously.
Guy 40:03
Totally. I mean, look at what what I love about what we all do at the retreat is that we know when the work has to be done, we do the work and, you know, with with this, you know, this sacred aspects to this, but at the same time, we know when to have fun. And we have a lot of fun too. And we’re laughing a lot. And bringing that sense of kid like, joy back into things. It’s, it’s a game changer. It really has to be serious all the time. Amazing. We didn’t do too bad. So there’s our 10 plus one, living flow posts, retreat commandments. So everyone listening, I hope you got something out of that out of that today. And yeah, please let us know tag us on Instagram, share in the Facebook group. If you come on over there. And hopefully we get to meet you in person. If you haven’t experienced our work yet. We’ll be gone. We’re in Sydney next week, we’re going to be in Wollongong Canberra, mid February, we got a three night retreat in March, we are trying to get to Victoria, we’re going to see how the land lies from Melbourne. Maybe in the March something like that we kind of see and so if you’re want to come back to live in flow Dotco and then you can subscribe to our newsletter there and that will keep you up to date on all our actions and of course we do a paid by donation every month live as well don’t we? So you can just pay what you want come and experience the shared space over zoom and tap into that collective energy it’s it’s a wonderful and we tend to do them monthly as well. So yeah, hopefully we’ll see you online or in person one day soon. May any words of wisdom to end the number 200th episode of the podcast
Matt 41:55
now, he put me on the spot. I’m all tapped out. I think if I shield is a bit low, I gotta get my Thor shield back up.
Guy 42:03
Yeah, you’ve spoken very elegantly and wise today. I’m like, well, we got to get him in a treat space more often. Thanks. Thank you everyone. Much love and we’ll catch you soon. I should be back with a regular podcast each week now because I met the guests lined up. And no doubt Mr. Matt Omo will be dropping in time to time. All right. Thanks, everyone. Thanks, legend.
Matt 42:29
Say All right, thanks.