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Mark:
And I was greeted by seven angels. They were 14 feet tall each in appearance. And this is a holographic nature of like a hologram of my life. It was like a table. And as my eyes moved, they showed me certain events in my life. And anytime when I was angry, I used to get bored with many, many people. And they asked, how does that relate to love? And every day in your life is an opportunity to express love. Forgiveness is forgiving your love away. If you’re always out giving things, the house, the car, you are forgetting who you really are.

Guy:
All right, just a quick heads up from me. When we recorded this podcast, we had audio difficulties with Mark’s microphone, and we went ahead, recorded the podcast, and in post-production, the audio wasn’t great. I sent it off to a sound engineer, and they’ve done the best they can with it. When I listen to it, it is listenable, but I just wanted to give you a heads up because it’s excellent podcast, excellent content, And if you allow yourself to settle in and persevere with the audio, you’ll be fine. And I have no doubt you will get a lot out of this podcast today. So I’ve published it anyway. Let me know in the comments below what you think of this podcast. I loved it. Mark’s a great guy, very passionate. And we certainly cover a lot of ground in this episode today. Much love from me. Enjoy. Beautiful. Mark, welcome to the podcast.

Mark:
Thank you, Guy. Thank you so much for having me. It’s such an honor and pleasure to be with you today. Thank you.

Guy:
You’re very, very welcome. I love how synchronicity makes things happen, and the podcast is a joy for that. And the way I start the show, Mark, is essentially, if you were at an intimate dinner table right now, and you sat next to a stranger, and they asked you what you did for a living, how would you respond?

Mark:
What do I do for a living? I empower other people. I empower them to help them remember who they really are. That’s what I do. That’s what my passion is. Of course, my traditional real job is that I’m in the food and biology and hospitality industry, which I have been for many years now.

Guy:
Yeah, no, fantastic. And I would have to say, who are we, if we are to remember who we really are? How would you define that?

Mark:
A lot of people will say that, you know, I’m a multidimensional being, I’m a light worker, I’m an empowered empath, whatever. But I encourage people over and over again to say two words. I am. You are it. You are Source Energy, you are the Beloved of God, whatever God means to you, you are eternal, you are an aspect of One, you are an aspect of the collective, you are an aspect of One Mind, One Source, and that is, you are it, you are Source Energy, you are, I am. That’s where your real power is, when you really own up to that and say, I am, you know, So I’ve been telling people for 30 years now.

Guy:
I know, but I guess the challenge is, Mark, and it certainly was for me, before I started having direct experiences, it was just some kind of, I guess, belief. And unknowingly, through being raised in culture and people around me, it was just belief systems without direct experiences. And then there was always a battle to understand who the I am is.

Mark:
What you have to unlearn what you’ve learned, we’re just a result of our programming, but that’s not who we really are. For thousands of years, people thought the earth was flat because they were taught to believe that. Just because you’re taught to believe something doesn’t mean it’s true or not. These things that we have been taught have really nothing to do with the truth.

Guy:
Yeah, exactly. So when was your first experience? Were you born into this world kind of knowing the full expression of yourself and who I am?

Mark:
Because I know you had quite a… I was very psychic as a kid. I knew things about people. I always said that I knew what they were feeling before they knew what they were feeling. I always saw lights around people, I had encounters with intermediate angels in my childhood, and a bunch of times I was told that it was crazy. I was told, don’t talk about those things, don’t say that, how do you know that, why do you know that, don’t say that, don’t ever say that again. So you really learn not to trust yourself. You start believing what other people say about you, you start thinking you’re crazy. So, yeah, but I was very awake as a kid. Absolutely.

Guy:
Wow. And then you had, if I’m not mistaken, you had a near-death experience in college, was it?

Mark:
No, I was in high school. So unfortunately, I… Because I was told that I was crazy, because I was ridiculed, because I was shunned, because I was told, you know, to shut up. My dad went to a holy mormon. He was a friend of mine who said, Jesus, sell it. He was somebody who was possessed by the devil. So I learned I didn’t want to feel anymore. I didn’t want to see things anymore. I didn’t want to know things anymore. So by the time I was 13 years old, God, I was on alcohol and drugs. because that was the only one that turned it off. And so when I was 16, I went to a high school party, this was 38 years ago. I was at a high school party, I was trying to impress my older friends. So a guy turned me, he got some vodka, four beers, two glasses of wine, and I got four wine coolers in 90 minutes. And my body went into cardiac arrest. My skin was green, purple, and black. I was completely covered, so I was dead. I was unconscious on the bathroom floor of the hotel suite in Canterbury in Cornwall, Iowa. It’s still there. And I left my body. I’m treated by my grandfather, Russell, who passed away when I was around two or three years old. It’s very common that If you had a grandparent die, they make their transition when they’re very young, they kind of become a guardian, they look over after you. And that’s how I found out that I was going home. I just thought, I screwed up, you know, I’m the only one, and so on. We ran into the light together. And I was greeted by seven angels, and they were 14 feet tall each in appearance. They were female in appearance. And this is a holographic picture, so they’re like a hologram of my life. It was like a table, and that’s how my eyes moved. They showed me certain events in my life. And many times when I was angry, they would sit up forward in front of many people. And of course, when you’re a teenager, that’s all that you ever do. They asked, how does that relate to love? And everything in life is an opportunity to express love. Forgiveness is forgiving your love away. If you’re always out giving things, the house, the car, the Jaguar, the Rolex watch, you are forgetting who you really are. And so everything in life is about love. Everything is an opportunity to express love. And that’s easier said than done, because we forget who we really are. We forget the power and presence of God within us, right here, right now, today. And we get into the blame game. The more that you blame, the more that you get the same. The more that you blame, the more that you’re going to get the same. Over and over again, I’m telling you, we can pass in forgiveness and law and judgment. And then they introduced me to a being that was probably about 30 feet tall, who was male in appearance, and this being had a lot of love for me. And the guy would begin to talk to me a lot about sound, getting through sound, sacred geometry and the thought of life, and now accused that priesthood. And the Bible says, Jesus is like Melchizedek, and now forever shall be Melchizedek. And so, in the moment, this 30-foot beam formed a platonic solid that was known as a constechedron, and it entered my heart, the 16-year-old, it entered my heart, and brought me back to life. So, in New Age concepts, I’m a walk-in. So, I walked in when I was 16. Yeah.

Guy:
So, how would you describe a walk-in, then, in that? Could you expand upon that a little bit more, please?

Mark:
Sure. I mean, let’s say you drive a Cadillac, right? You have a Cadillac CTS. and you’re driving the GALAX CTS and all of a sudden someone else takes over, someone else becomes the new driver. The car isn’t saying, the CTS is saying that it has a new driver. I just got a new driver. I got a more highly advanced cell that came down through time and space and took over from my work. My wife’s kids and I were left off. So it was an energetic exchange.

Guy:
So was the core essence of you up until that experience, when you died or when you had the near-death experience, the energetics that come into the body at that point, was it like emergence?

Mark:
Yes, emergence.

Guy:
Enhance your gotcha gotcha what. Yeah wow that’s that’s when you have when you had that experience initially were you did it feel normal we scared was it.

Mark:
How real was it well i was scared to death you go back to school almost a week later. What’s your friend at this high school party and it’s all what happened to you. and I’m still here, and it made the whole thing more psychic, more intuitive. I started seeing more vivid colors, I started seeing more things, I started learning more things, and this made me more withdrawn. And I’ve told this story many times, but shortly after my near-death experience when I had to walk in, I was up in Door County, Sturgeon Bay, Wisconsin, with a childhood friend, Peter. And one evening, I went to Peter’s mom and said, look, I’m going to call your daughter and tell her I’m glad to come up here. And again, they thought I was crazy. And then the next day, that morning, I was like, I went to Peter, I went to Peter’s mom and I go, look, you have to call your daughter now and tell her that she shouldn’t be up here. And they’re like, I know we’re fighting, we’re arguing, you’re not used to seeing that. It’s gonna be okay. I go, I’m like, no, you don’t understand. She just cannot be up here. Just tell her not to come. And so they got really upset with me. They sent me home on the Greyhound bus and I’m smuggling back to Iowa. And unfortunately, their daughter was connected to Clarence on the way going up to Wisconsin from Iowa. And so again, I was like, this is crap. I don’t want to do this. So I didn’t go back to drinking, but I think I smoked marijuana and it’s a bit of like I’m on all three and sevens, you know, around 17 and something every day for about 16, 17 and 18. Cause I didn’t, I didn’t want to know. I didn’t want to know.

Guy:
Yeah. So I’m guessing there was no one in your world at that point that could relate to or guide you from that point?

Mark:
No, but actually there was, when I’m going into next. So my other friend told me, he does mind counting a little. Pretty little doing all this stuff. And then she introduced me to Dick Sutphin, who went to Lincoln and Bungan to be together. It wasn’t until I got interested in some author about reincarnation and soul mates. But then she introduced me to John Biondi and Jerry Berman. So John Biondi was an attorney out of Boston, and Jerry Berman was a trans channel. And Jerry would channel John, John from the Bible, one of the apostles. And I was listening to, and people have heard of Jerry Bellman and Gerald Bellamy, but they haven’t heard of Children’s Claims. Children’s Claims channels Kevin Ryerson, and Kevin Ryerson also channeled John. And John would come to me when Kiyo and I are talking now, and he would say things like, we never use the truth to be right, we never use the truth to make others wrong, we never use the truth to score points for an evil, a master is not called a master because he himself says so, a master is called master because those who witness him say that he is master. He and I would say the kingdom of God is within you, why do you seek anything else? And you can say that from a spiritual point of view, not a religious point of view. And you can’t say that when you’re 18, 19, 20 years old, those things don’t seem that important to you. And of course, you know, 30 something years later, you can actually listen a little bit more. you know, paying a little bit more attention, but there’s, you know, too many blogs and too many brilliants, and there’s a lot of these things that, you know, when we are in tune, we’re going in trying to obtain some knowledge or enlightenment. So, she kind of, you know, kind of steered me back, you know, into this path. I mean, from 18 to 25, rather, John gave me a lot of inspiration, especially in my dreams, you know.

Guy:
Yeah, wow, wow. Do you ponder on, or have you had insights since, who those beings were? Because I’ve had multiple people on the podcast that talk about interactions with different beings of different shapes, different sizes, and through your experience at that point when you had the NDE, do you know who they were or what their roles were?

Mark:
The angels are just the large beings,

Guy:
Probably all of it, all of them what you witnessed, because I guess there’s many different words that conjure up different belief systems for people as well, even just by mentioning angels, or guides, or, you know, it can mean many different things.

Mark:
Right, so generally we are born with two guides, and kind of watch over us from the time that we are born to the time that we leave. And then angels, angels are different than guides. Lions usually, you know, take on a human form, or they’ve been, like, a regulatory local, or a parent, or somewhere in a previous lifetime. Angels are different. Angels are a little bit of a higher-dimensional one. They take on the role of compassion, love, and wisdom. And you can have one, two angels. You can have literally a thousand angels that are a part of your consciousness depending on where you’re at in your own evolution. It is my ability to think I’m just a part of my team, the ability to guide me, the ability to be a part of me and our self, part of me. The 30 foot beam that was mailed was definitely tied into a place outside of time and space, but had to come down through on cognitive realities to come into this plane of existence. And almost, definitely, there’s a lot of talk about the Melchizedek priesthood, so I get the impression that it was a part of that, you know?

Guy:
Yeah. Okay, you know, and one other question that’s coming in for me is about the relationships, because you spoke about your dad, you spoke about the people around you thinking you were crazy, which drove you to, you know, drink and alcohol, which I can certainly relate to in some respects. you know, like, because growing up in Wales, the culture, I always felt like there was something more missing. So alcohol was an easy way of escapism for me and playing rugby, you know. So, in fact, when you come out of that experience and you come out the other end and How did you view those relationships with people and how have, I don’t want to use the word heal, but how have they evolved since that experience? And what have you learned from that as well?

Mark:
Well, I wanted to understand that, um, you know, the first three or four days after I crossed over and came back and I had to walk and come out and take cover, everyone seemed about this big. I mean, everyone’s really small. And it took me three or four days to get used to being in New York, to being here. About the fourth or fifth day in New York, all the memories ending. I’m Mark, or Mark Patterson. I’m a sophomore at West High in Iowa City, Iowa. These are my friends and my classmates. Oh, that’s my dad. This is my mom. And so, then walking tips over. The law can take over and it’s not like a demonic possession. There’s an agreement. There’s an agreement that’s made. We give you contracts and agreements, which is what I’m going with to answer your question. It’s just a regular higher aspect of myself, a higher aspect of consciousness that came through me. So, I believe wholeheartedly in the Bible, since Psalm 139.16, that every day, every deed, every action is recorded in the book before seeing the one that passed. We plan our lives out. We plan it out. John Calvin was the founder of the Presbyterian Church. They used to be called Pre-Western Presbyterians. According to the early 1800s, they weren’t around anymore. You choose your parents. You choose your circumstances. You choose what happens to you in life because it’s best suited for this soul to evolve. Word evolved was the only word in the dictionary. The word evolved as I learned in the English dictionary guide, and there was the word love in it. And that’s what we’re here to do. We are here to evolve. And we evolve through compassion, forgiveness, and not judgment. And again, that’s easier said than done. And that’s what Jesus taught, and this is what Buddha taught, and this is what the masters taught, was that you’re here to love. And of course, I’ve been asked since I’ve been in conferences and lectures all over the world, and I’ve been asked, well, if God is so loving, and God is so great, and God is so powerful, why do bad things happen to good people? It’s a very common question, because you wanted someone to forgive. You don’t want to let go of something. Jung said that this time, my soul is going to demonstrate love. My soul is going to express what the power of love can transform. I’m just reading out of it. It’s about Immaculee in 1994. She was the best example of this on the planet. Rwanda, the Congo Civil War, back in the 90s, I think it was 93, 94. She has a story about the woman that she and seven other people survived in the bathtub for 91 days, grinding the horns in the condom water. 91 days in the bathroom to survive. I mean, it’s like what we saw in Nazi Germany, you know, people, people, I mean, I, I do have people in the basement to keep them alive, right? That thing, 700 people in one maze. You know, when the dust settled, the dust cleared, they kind of found, they found the main guy, the main perpetrator of the, of the Congo War. And they gave her, they basically gave her a baseball bat and machete. So do whatever you want to with this guy, you know? We’re not saying he’s a monster. Now, if she found a way to wholeheartedly forgive him, I mean, if you listen to the story, it’s deeply, it’s a deeply rooted story. But if she demonstrated the power of love and how it can transform consciousness on the planet. I’ve seen Ron Mizzell talk about how he won a Nobel Peace Prize winner, Pulitzer Prize winning author, and he was a five-cross survivor. He talked about what he had to do and the power of love that was able to free him and transform him. But the power of love is that you don’t forget. You don’t forget what happens to you, but you let it go. In fact, Joyce Meyer says, She does unforgiveness, it’s like drinking poison and expecting the person that you hate to die. When you don’t forgive someone, the anger, the bitterness, the resentment doesn’t affect them, it affects you. So forgiveness is about freeing yourself.

Guy:
Yes. Yeah, no, thank you for sharing. I do ponder on what’s happening within the world right now and what we do when we run retreats and workshops and work with people. I always say it’s a journey from the head to the heart, and we spend so much time in our heads and we identify with our mind, and everything that we do is so kind of this linear goal-orientated, which we need to operate in Western society, but we kind of cut off the circulation from the head to the heart, and we forget it even exists, and we don’t even know how to go there. It’s It’s mind-boggling, and my wish for humanity, and why I’m so driven from my own experience, is to show people there is another way, if you’re willing to explore, that we can actually tap into this power from the heart, which transcends time.

Mark:
That’s the same. The greatest distance is the distance between your mind and your heart. The longest distance is between.

Guy:
Yeah, and it’s the shortest one, but the greatest distance. Shortest in geography, but it’s the longest one, yeah. So, I guess, where do you see humanity is at right now? Every time you turn on the news, there seems to be some monstrosity somewhere around the world. I mean, we’ve just had it happen in Australia only two days ago in Bondi with the stabbings and things, right? It’s just constant, and it’s heartbreaking. All I wish for is that we could all find our way here to our hearts and be in a better place, but it just seems so much turmoil is going on.

Mark:
So we are arriving nearer and nearer to our shifting line of 3D consciousness, to what people call 5D, because some people call it ascension. I don’t like the word ascension. We’re not really ascending, you know. We are remembering who we really are. We are awakening to our true potential. We are awakening to our spiritual gifts. And so that we’re ascending to earth, or we’re not ascending to heaven, we are returning and restoring heaven back to earth, which is where it belongs. So, I’ll give you some examples of some really amazing things that are happening, even despite the inferences, right? The Russian-Ukrainian conflict, right? For the first time in history, Tens of thousands of Russian troops said no more. See, the vibration of war is not being supported on the planet anymore. That’s why we have tens of thousands of Russian troops just walking away. We’re not going to kill someone I don’t even know. Someone didn’t do anything right. We’re not participating in this anymore. Unprecedented. Just the other day, United States, for the first time ever, So we’re not going to retaliate against Iran. Unconcerned. 15, 20 minutes ago, we had already launched missiles. You know, the vibration of war is not being supported on the planet anymore. And also we know that there are, uh, ETs that are very, we are very close on the world train. Everyone’s going to play that. And there are countless stories that have been released by the Pentagon, NASA originally, where the ships fly over the silos, the nuclear silos, and turn them off like that. You know, I just, I don’t see a nuclear conglomeration happening, you know. Because what’s happening is that we have a choice. The choice is either that we are going to run to the dragon in the eye and become cyborgs, or we’re going to evolve and break free from the matrix. AI is a big threat to humanity. I will say that AI is dangerous. They’re talking about five, not 15, 20 years from now, four to five years from now, guy, robots can take up 40 to 50% of the labor market. They want to automate them, they want to generalize. It’s all about control. A bunch of cars got a kill switch. Turned the car off from the satellite above. My AI was a threat. But I believe that towards the end of this year, we’re going to see signs that we are willing, have finally done it. We are willing breaking some matrix. There are groups all over the planet right now that are working towards making contact with higher competence with different animals. When something is going to be like some staged event, one of the names drop down, I’m watching you see over in Australia, over in London, there, people like you and I are going to be contacted. And not for a second to be contacted while it’s going to be coming out. And by 2026, not only will there be full disclosure, none of them are around us. I mean, we spend billions of dollars looking for extraterrestrial life. All the evidence of extraterrestrial life is right here on the planet. Especially in human economics, all the way in the whales. I mean, I’ve been to Egypt three times. It’s like, there’s drawings of little ones that have been on the planet for thousands of years. You don’t have to spend billions of dollars. It’s all right here. That’s just sort of, I mean, in a sense, that’s what, you know, we are evolving. And we are shifting out of this dependency of electronics and all this stuff. We are returning to who we really are. That’s what’s happening on the planet. And there’s a lot of unseen influence that are helping us and supporting us, but also what we keep being bombarded with. COVID’s still here, the one’s going on. So what, in a sense, the electromagnetic field on the Earth is getting really, really thin, which happens before it switches. And that’s why people are kind of cringing right now, because the electromagnetic field is so thin right now of the Earth.

Guy:
It’s fascinating what you’re sharing, and I guess if people to hear that, that are fully invested in the materialistic world, it could feel so far removed from their reality right now. I certainly don’t know what’s gonna happen in terms of predictions and things, but what I do know is that every time I bring a group of people together and we go into our hearts and we actually work on the I am, who are we really, and starting to let go of the traumas and the things that are shaping our perception and our daily reality, We’re not making choice points from love, but we’ve been making them from fear unconsciously. As we start to evolve that and move through that, there are definitely fields of energy that come in at different frequencies and different beings that want to Help serve and cooperate like we experience every single time we spend five days together with people and this is quite phenomenal phenomenal and mind blowing so in my reality what you’re sharing doesn’t seem like a far stretch in some respects because of the experiences i had been leaving my body and traveling but. We all haven’t had those experiences though, right? For us, a lot of it, we just kind of accept, believe, and surrender into everything else because we don’t know where to go or turn. So I guess my question for you is, from this point, if we are getting tired of the Matrix, if we are getting tired and starting to feel something inside of us is not right, But we are scared. We are fearful, because that’s the paradigm. What would you suggest? What would your advice be? Obviously, it’s a journey. It’s not a quick fix of any way. But that’s what I’m asking.

Mark:
The biggest thing is to realize that there is nothing out there. The person that you meet the most is your biggest teacher. There’s only one. We are all one. And if you know that the person that you can’t stand the most, they’re the ones that are living in your head, let free. They’re the ones that you need to let go of. They’re the ones that you need to start thanking, blessing. realize that they’re just, they’re just an aspect of you. You know, it’s, you can’t, you learn to see, you know, you have scenes, dinosaurs in the scene. In one of the seven truths of the scenes, everything in your life is a reflection of what’s going on within you. So if you can learn to see yourself, in all people, all things, all events, all situations, all circumstances, you realize that the world has come together for your benefit. The world has come together for you to allow yourself to see more of who you are, so that you will see all aspects of yourself. And the more that you make peace with all aspects of yourself, the outer lies disappears and it doesn’t become very important. It takes practice, you know, and meditation is the key to wanting to be still and to be quiet. To be still and to know that I am. When Jesus said, I am, I mean something like you. To be still and remember who you are. To be quiet.

Guy:
Yeah, no, ultimately, when I reflect on my life, Mark, when I found peace within myself for the first time, I remember that feeling of just being still and at peace, and that changed everything. That changed the trajectory of my entire life, the choices I made.

Mark:
So there are more that come, there are descending timelines, and they remain on it, And based on the actions that you take, there are parallel universes, there are parallel timelines, they’re all going on simultaneously. And depending on the choices that you make, depends on what timeline you experience. But they’re all right here, right now. Everything is now.

Guy:
So if we were to expand upon that, So does that mean my, my, ultimately my reality, my world, my, it can be exceptionally different to somebody else purely because of what I’m focusing on and the choices I’m making. Yeah.

Mark:
That’s all about that too. Carson’s information, uh, from what knowledge from his mom, he’s got a lot of amazing information. He’s pretty remarkable.

Guy:
Yeah. It’s funny, as a podcaster, my head is spinning and spinning and spinning. It’s always trying to come up with the right question. The next logical question to ask on that, because it’s such a head… Yeah, fuckery, I was going to say. I try not to swear. It trips me out a bit. The other thing with that that starts to boggle my mind as well is that, are there Parallel means having experiences or other versions of me somewhere, somewhere, that infinite. And is it like infinite where we hold up a mirror to each other and then, you know, it just goes in infinitely? I’m like, is that happening at the same time?

Mark:
Yeah, so we tend to interlay with about 20 or 30 people. Let’s call them saw family. You know, meaning your parents, your brothers and sisters, your aunts and uncles, or it could be like you and me. I’m from Iowa, and I have people that still live in the same neighborhood where I grew up at. I always run into the same two or three people, always, for the last 30, 40 years. And that’s the way it’s always been. To me, those people are part of my soul family. Now, do we have parallel selves? Yes. In fact, I’ve been told many times in my dreams that the famous rocker Sammy Hagar is one of my parallel lives. I’ve never met Sammy. I’ve never said, hey, you know, this is what I’m getting. You know, you and I are like, you know, in parts of the same soul. I do know that he does believe in manliness. That’s what the song Contact is all about. Love Comes Working and stuff like that. It’s about making contact with interrooms. Well, I’ve been talking about it for a million years now, but Cinnamon Hagar and I are on parallel lives. And they say that if you run into someone that’s a parallel life of you, you’ll either just click, like penis in the pod, or you’ll just hang into each other. You know, and it won’t be conscious. Yeah, that’s exactly what it is. It’s the fragment of light. It’s the fact of light. This keeps replicating itself over and over again.

Guy:
Yeah. So then are they all that information, all that experience, is going back to like one soul or an over-soul or something like that?

Mark:
Like if we got all the information. I mean, this human form that we have now in the planet was created by the Anunnaki. The comment that we have in Israel on Hamas or Israel on the power signs has been going on for 40,000 years. It shows the Waki Brothers’ ideal in the known. The land grants, the land grant funding to humans through slaves to mine gold for them. More other sect women than other humans to be free. And it’s just the same thing over and over again. I mean, it’s humanity’s insanity at its worst. We have God. We have God. We’re saved. You’re not. We’re chosen. You’re not. The world belongs to us. The world belongs to us. Native Americans, there’s three groups of people that have got this whole thing right. God, us. That was the Plymouths of Hawaii and the Polynesian Islands, the aboriginals of Australia, and the Native Americans of the Southwest, particularly the Hopi and the Anastasi. The real connection to God was not there. The real connection to God was the Earth. You have to connect with the earth first before you connect into heaven. This is like your childlike playfulness. In all conflicts or not, in the lab, we have to take what’s in your lab because we’re afraid that we can’t get it ourselves. But the truth is, you are lacking nothing. When I was a kid, I dreamed over and over again of everything I wanted. Every day I wanted to feel alive, feeling like I belong, feeling like I was in Disney. I didn’t go to Disneyland until I was 37. But Disneyland, Land of the Particular, I always found them behind my bedroom closet. Every time I wanted to feel alive, I would dream that I was inside my bedroom closet. All those things I was dreaming were inside my bedroom closet. Well, 27 years later, you figure out inside the bedroom closet means inside your heart. And I didn’t tell anyone, I know my narrative experience sounds crazy. I didn’t tell anyone about my narrative experience for 10, I think two people knew about it. My best friend, my world friend at the time, Kirsten. I didn’t tell anyone, except for those two people. But 10 minutes later, a guy got a phone call at 1.30 in the morning from a woman I never met, never spoke with before. She described my near-death experience for a brand new detail. She told me the same thing about sound, geometry, and the Melchizedek priesthood. And then she told me about a childhood dream about being inside my bedroom closet. Yeah. Yeah. For real.

Guy:
You make a valid point as well, that it’s interesting you say about they knew how they connected to the Earth first. Because it’s like, as humans, we find our earthly experience so painful sometimes. We just spend our time just going to the heavens, almost running away from the very things that are happening in our world. And we’re not here now and anchoring in that. loving the very planet that’s sustained in our life.

Mark:
There are millions and millions and millions of unborn beings, of souls, of beings out there that want to experience Earth right here, right now. Because what’s happening, guys, is when we reach this point and we want to more than likely shift towards the universe from the next year, we’re going to create an insane reaction. nominal effect. Instantaneously uplifted and awakened, browsing down to the running dimensional realities throughout all time and space, and it all starts right here on Earth. That’s why Earth is so important. You know that, Everybody in the mix talks about things like manifesting and allowing. Compassion, in a lot of ways, you can take that which is not seen and make it seem that which is not known and make it known. We are transforming the non-physical into the physical. Guess what, guy? You can’t do that without a body. That’s how important your body is, that’s how important your experience is. You have to embrace all of it. You’re gonna have, you’re gonna have drunk the bottle of wine, you’re gonna have one night stands, you’re gonna make mistakes. It’s all to be embraced. It’s all to be embraced, because all the part of your quality and your willingness experiences that make you lit, that make you empowered. Because if you didn’t have that, you wouldn’t become the person that you are today. So we get into trouble, guys. What we get into trouble is that we keep telling ourselves our life shouldn’t be this way. Our life should be something different. Our life should be more. We’re gonna end up embracing it and accepting it just the way that it is. And God, that’s the biggest key to enlightenment, right there. Learning to accept your life just the way that it is. We’re not looking at it wrong or bad or different. We’re not looking for the shouldas. We’re the life killers, absolute life killers.

Guy:
Wow. Yeah. We live in a world that is constantly bombarding us subliminally of how we should live, how we should be. It’s almost like this Keeping Up With The Joneses kind of philosophy. So it sells consumerism, right?

Mark:
They learned that if you’re coming from a place of wrath, it’s easier to control you. Rather than knowing that you are already in. You are already the fulfillment. that you’re already the fulfillment of the entire power. You’re a whole, complete and black nothing. It’s already contained within you. And you just have to remember that, to allow that, but it’s already within you.

Guy:
Yeah, and it’s asked me a question because it might even link into a word you said to me off air, but I’ll find out in a moment. But the thing that frustrates me a little bit, or what I see happen, I shouldn’t say frustrated, I kind of just let it go, but there’s people in the spiritual industry and they’re talking about manifestation and it’s all about For me, it feels like a play on the ego about manifesting more money, more materialistic things, and really doing that dance and speaking to a certain aspect of ourselves. Because it’s talking to the lack in us, which I get. But even when leaning into that aspect, I think about manifestation. It’s like, well, if I’m wanting to manifest something in my life, if I’m coming from a place of lack, then I’m not complete before manifesting it. What the hell am I doing? Am I really actually manifesting that for the right reasons? Is it coming from a heart-centered space? And is it going to align with what I’ve signed up for, what my soul has signed up for? You mentioned synchrodestiny is the word. I don’t know if that ties into it.

Mark:
Right, so that’s really good, because if you’re coming from a place of whack, and you’re coming from a place of need, denial of premium and evangelization isn’t going to work, you have to accept that you are already fulfilled. That’s what it means when it says, you know, that you shall not have any God before me, because you are already it. You are already, and there’s already within you. When you come from a place of lack and need or doubt, you can move on so you’re in the face and it’s not going to manifest. And it’s about, you know, feeling You’re not even good enough because you don’t have to prove anything to God. You’re not a mistake. God doesn’t make mistakes. You’re not a mistake. You haven’t been disgruntled on this planet. You’re unique, precious, and wonderful. And it’s about embracing that. So, sacred destiny are things that line up at the right place at the right time. I guess I’ll, I’ll do the troll clink. So, my background is restaurant work back in the 90s into Charleston, South Carolina, it’s still there to go down there about once a month. And at the time, I was watching The Divinity of Scalded Flowered Wife with John Leroy McKenzie-Deck about this famous appearance on a sacred geometry. And this guy, this gentleman, comes into our restaurant for five nights in a row. And every night, he ends up in my section, which is impossible, because we’ve been in different sections. There’s 12 or 13 sections at 82, and we’re in a different section every night. Every night, this guy ends up in one section. So the last night, he’s there, he’s with his family. He’s got his son in his mind, and his name is Sean. And this, for instance, female angel boy comes to me and she goes, we need you to talk to him, and they’re pointing to him, and his name is Roger. I need you to talk to him about the video tapes you’re watching. I’ve been dying, like, you’re crazy. I’ve got six or seven channels. I’m in the weeds. We have an hour and a half, two hour wait. And then Vizag runs through it in town. And I’m just like, no, I ain’t doing that. Like, shit, I gotta work, you know? So how are you? Excuse my French. And so I go to leave from the table, and I get physically pushed back in front of the table by an unseen force. And they come back to me and they go, no, you don’t need to do this. It’s just really important that you do this. And so I look at them and I’m going, God, when am I going to ask this guy? And I look at them and go, they’re not a mathematics professor, are you? And he was like, Mark, what did you really want to ask me? I was like, okay. All right, so all I’m watching is videotapes about the pyramids, the Sphinx, the farm, I didn’t get to move them at all. You know, I have those tapes. Where did you rip those tapes? I will have to have those tapes. And hey, they’re not mine, but I’ll call Rosemary tomorrow because it’s late at night. I’ll call and run into my manager. So let’s say I call Rosemary. I’m like, hey, this guy’s adamant. These tapes, he’s still going to run them. He’s going to have them. Can I get them, John? She’s like, yeah, I’ll see you in a moment. I mean, it’s OK. So I meet him a couple days later, I give him the tapes to his brother, give them to him and his son Sean. A few months passed, I don’t hear anything in the sky, I don’t think I’m ever going to hear in the sky again, I don’t know what happened, right? So I go to work one morning, a female voice comes back to me. Mark, I need you to go to your manager and tell him that you’ve got to go home. I just got here, and I don’t know what they’re expecting me to work, you know? So, um, like, you know, it’s, you know, it’s time that you’re not feeling well when you’re awake. A lot of people can, you know, call it lying, but I think they were trying to get me to do something, but I won’t get to it in a second. So, I go up to them and say, you know, hey, I’m not feeling well, it’s okay if I go to me, I’m not getting the visibility, it’s, go home, go home. My voice comes back, please go directly to your place. I live in downtown Charleston. Please don’t stop anywhere and go there. 20 minutes, it takes me 20 minutes to get my place. As I open the door, the phone rings. It’s Roger calling me from France. He says, I would like to work with you to bring my keys up in person. I’m like, yeah, I’d love to. What do I need to do? This is why I have to do a show. Everyone’s been paying for it. Thank you for the videotapes. Synchro wants me. Getting the job at 82 Queen in Charleston. Coming from England, I was living in England at the time. Five nights in Manhattan by section. Having the videotapes when I had them. It’s like that because it’s the way you planned it out to be, because it’s the way that was intended.

Guy:
Yeah, beautiful. I have no doubt people listening can relate to that story. That’s for sure. Is he the gentleman with the long white ponytail?

Mark:
Is that the guy? Yeah. Yeah. outside of Sudan and Ping, I think, that’s not right, Ping, Ping Springs, Lima, Sudan, I mean, a lot of places, I went in the jungle while I’m at the grocery store. Not even two years ago, let’s be straight, February 27th of 2022, I had a culminating experience in Publix, the grocery store. For 20 minutes, I am clutching the gushing part. All of a sudden, everything’s getting up and down, and I’m like, what the hell? I gotta keep a cool face. I can tell that people are staring at me, because I can tell that something’s going on. I’m a sound downer than I did up to the way we experienced at the grocery store. Last month at Airstreet, at the other grocery store, I’m out to grab the grocery store. Bam! Right here, there’s this cross, right in my third eye. Holy cats, they may have dropped me to my knees. I got home, went right to bed, I was out for three hours, cold. I had something about me and grocery stores, you know, you can experience God at the grocery store. No, that’s what God taught. God taught me that 30 years ago. Now it looks just like this. The light looks just like this. It’s all right here right now. Yeah.

Guy:
Amazing. Mark, last question for you to wrap things up. With everything we covered today, what would you like to leave the listeners to ponder on?

Mark:
So from a New England standpoint, one, we’ve never done anything wrong. I’m going to say it again, we’ve never done anything wrong. There are many options and consequences, and we don’t judge our guilt or shame that makes us feel bad about ourselves. We want love, we want what you do, we want what you don’t do. You haven’t failed at anything. If you and I would leave for Bermuda, and you arrived two hours after I did, you didn’t fail at Bermuda. You just got there at a different time. Times in general, times in the region. And you were never alone. Your guides, your angels were always with you. God’s presence was in your heart. It’s within you right here, right now, today. Not to die in order to explain, so that’s what Jesus said. He said, the Kingdom of God is within you. It’s within you right now, today. And that is the most important thing. Come on, whatever you want to call it, Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, Sai Baba, Nirbhaya, Vastu, whatever you want to call it. That is within you, here and now. And the more that you tune into it, the more that you tap into that, the more that you experience grace. And when you can see within the circuits of the laws of grace, you can see the laws of karma. Some of the love, your wisdom, compassion overrides some of the stuff that we planned out before we came here. But that’s the most important message, guy, is God is within you, in the physical, here, right now, today. And don’t wait till the afterlife to experience it. You can experience it now. It’s right here, right now.

Guy:
Thank you for coming on the show today, Mark. I really appreciate your time. Where can people go if they want to find out more about your work?

Mark:
Thank you so much for having me on the show. My website is mark-patterson.com. If you don’t include the dash, you’re going to get a famous dealer in New York City. It’s mark-patterson.com. Or you can find me on Instagram. It’s at Sedona Mark Patterson. Similarly, Mark Patterson is my Instagram ministry. I’m ready. Guy, thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Guy:
You’re very welcome, mate. It was great connecting. Great connecting. And just for everyone, the links will be in the show notes below. Thanks. Thanks so much.