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Guy (00:10):
That’s what craft do, isn’t it? Yeah, no, I don’t know, mate. Welcome. We are recording. We are here in guy, me, uh, eco spa resort up in UK. And uh, if you’re watching this in video, obviously you can see the beautiful, uh, leaves behind us. We nestled on the Mount warning and we saw we do a quick podcast and, uh, the reason why I’m so cuddled into Matt is that we’ve only got one camera and one frame. So we looking very cozy standing here. Yeah. We get pretty close on the road. we do. We do. Yeah. And when we we’ve enjoyed, uh, leaning in, cause the last time we, we, uh, run the retreat here, which was about two months ago, three months ago was it may, may, may, may, June, July. Yeah. About two and a half months ago we recorded podcast. So we’re actually on the day of its start.

Guy (00:56):
And so it’s here in the morning and uh, we’ll have 31 people, uh, plus support with 33 people walking through the, uh, after lunch today. So mm-hmm, , we’ll keep this podcast shorter than normal. Maybe we knows what it happens. Yeah. Maybe we’re waffling already. I know. And let’s get to it. And we wanted to lean into the conversation around cuz again, common themes as we get in front of hundreds and hundreds of people, we start to see themes that start to come through, um, with that person coming in and what actually attracts ’em to the work. And one of the common, uh, themes is about lack of purpose or lack of meaning in their life. That there’s like a deeper sense of something missing and wanting to explore that. So start to work with the heart and soul, which is, I believe that direction goes in, but not only that, um, you know, we, I think we could all agree.

Guy (01:50):
You listening and you here as well. I’m still doing all the talking here, but, um, that we are a sum total of all the, the occurrences choices and all the experiences that have had all of us up until this moment. And depending on how long we’ve been on earth as you know, what age we are, there’s a, there’s a greater totality of those experiences that are constantly shaping us and quite, and the way I look at that, we we’ve become wiser over the years or we like to think we do as opposed to, you know, yeah. I think we like to think we do some, some of us, well, maybe we know it’s all subjective, isn’t it? It is subjective. And, but obviously if we had the totality of all those experiences and shapes and the body holds that information as well, and that’s governing a lot of the way we think and the way we feel and the way we experience life, moment to moment, and we get caught in these patterns, then it’s quite often it can feel like we have anchors changed to us of the past.

Guy (02:42):
And we can lean into those that are saying, well, it’s because of this, this and this. And that’s holding us back. That that is my issue right here, which is an external, which we, we lean into in the workshops, right? Mm-hmm and what we were even discussing off air just now is, well, how do we start to lean into shifting that perspective and being able to see the wisdoms, the gifts in the, in the challenges and shift and user as a platform to leap off into our future self and into that deeper meaning of connection and love and gratitude and working with the heart and soul more and living from that space. And I know for me that the biggest challenge was I never would believe it because I never experienced it. So I would always resort back to the old patterns itself for quite some time. And then as I lent into this work more and start to study it and understand it and apply it, you get to shift that perspective, right? Like you go go,

Matt (03:39):
No question. I don’t even know where you’re going with all this. Well, I guess what, what’s the basis of what you’re trying to say.

Guy (03:48):
Well, the basis is, is how do we shift that perspective? Where’s the shift, the defining moments in us. So we can really start to embody the, that future self, that those emotions that we wanna do. So perspective

Matt (04:02):
Of what

Guy (04:03):
Though? Hmm. Perspective

Guy (04:04):
Of what, of, how we see ourselves, cuz a lot of it’s unconscious anyway. So there’s a perspective that’s if all that totality of experiences is shaping us to this point right now. Right, right. That is shaping our perspective of how we see it. So quite often we, the obstacles and we see challenges and there’s a deeper part of ourselves that doesn’t believe that we can change into a greater aspect of ourselves and live from a much, um, more meaningful life without the, the anchors that are saying of the experiences that we feel can be holding us back. So

Matt (04:37):
There’s always something holding us back. There’s a problem. There’s a challenge. There’s something in the way for us creating the dreams in the life that we want to have.

Guy (04:43):
Exactly.

Matt (04:43):
And so what is it that allows that then to move from a challenge and a, in a anchor, into an opportunity

Guy (04:51):
And a, and a sale, like putting a sail up and actually yeah. Bringing you into your, into yourself. Right. Because I think that, but it’s like, where’s the point, there’s a defining point that then has to start to shift. There you go. Ah, now I’m really getting this and then you can run with it and then you can practice reps in the gym of doing that. That’s then gonna pull you into your, your, your vision of your future self. And you start embodying that now. Yeah. So you start being that person now.

Matt (05:15):
Right. There’s so many quotes that are just flying through my head right now. Right. because there’s this. Okay. Reverend Michael would say that, um, don’t cry during a crisis because the crisis is what really is. If you break the word down got is, is in there, right? Because don’t cry. Don’t take the first part, move past the tears and look into what is really is, is what a crisis is showing you. It’s showing you an opportunity for more wisdom, for greater insight, for greater awareness. Right. Mm-hmm so that was coming to mind. And then the other quote that came to mind, I like it was mark Nepo. Oh yeah. And he said the heart needs to break for it to grow. That’s how the heart grows is through heartbreak. If you think of a muscle breaking down. Yeah. Same kind of thing. So it’s like those two things came to mind straight off the bat.

Matt (05:59):
And in, in essence, that’s where I think the, uh, turmoil comes in is because we have this hope and this expectation of a, of a vision that we want or a dream that we have. And yet we don’t want to put the boots on and walk through the money path to get to it. We avoid the path and we’re like, well, where’s this, where’s the easy path because I don’t wanna deal with that pain. Cause that pain is so overwhelming that I don’t even wanna lean into it. But the truth of it is, is that actually through the pain is the way to the goal.

Guy (06:34):
Yes.

Matt (06:35):
And so that’s, that’s where the, the shift has to come in. And I think through, through my master’s program, there was another phrase that really landed for me as well. It’s like whenever a, a trigger comes up, you get angry at somebody, uh, upset, uh, a challenge or this, then you, then you know, that school is in session that now is the opportunity that my soul is presenting to me for my consciousness to grow. Right? Yes,

Guy (07:01):
No. So

Matt (07:02):
These are all these things that pop, pop, pop.

Guy (07:04):
That’s a very distinct, clear, see, I had to unearth that out of you, by going on my ramble to make sure I was gonna get the best out of you, which I think I’ve achieved. Okay.

Matt (07:13):
We’re getting there, but that’s the crux of it, isn’t it? Yes. Is that, there’s this, there’s this illusion and it’s like, it’s conditioned into us that we need to, we need to be, uh, we need to run away from threats. It’s it’s wired in us. Right. And then that’s what the work is all about is recondition in the nervous system to actually not so much run from the threats because a lot of the threats are perceived threats, you know, obviously run from don’t don’t step in a road or don’t put your face on a frying pan. Like, you know, ,

Guy (07:47):
I haven’t actually thought about doing that,

Matt (07:49):
But I didn’t either, but it just, just came through. Uh, so don’t put yourself in danger. Don’t, don’t stay if there’s there’s physical danger or threat to your life. But it’s majority of the threat that we’re dealing with in our modern world is perceived threat is it is not a true reality as a threat to our physical wellbeing.

Guy (08:09):
Yes. And I, and I, to lead into that, I believe one of the problems then in our modern day life is that we saw condition to be in our heads, in our minds and to solve problems and think analytically. And we disconnect disassociate from our emotions or feelings on our body. Yeah. So we not, we not have built that relationship. And then we, we, we, we lean more into the mind. Yeah. As opposed to the, then that then disconnects us and disconnect that connection. And then the ability to handle the challenges that are coming when emotions arise, cuz we are not connected to them. We don’t know how to work with ’em. So we then just dive deeper into the thought and start, stay in our head and we keep even borrowing further, further that way without then ever really addressing what’s really going on. And we so far separated from it. We never, we never

Matt (09:01):
Even aware

Guy (09:02):
Of it, not even aware of it and we not even stopped to take a look.

Matt (09:05):
No,

Guy (09:06):
Exactly. And it’s there. Right. All along well

Matt (09:08):
Did to illustrate our disconnect, who we are. We were, we were playing with this on the way to coffee this morning. Is it, you know, we had Google maps on just to get to a, oh yeah. We

Guy (09:16):
In

Matt (09:17):
Town 15 minutes away. And we’re like, no, turn ’em off mate. Just drive and just follow your nose, like your intuition. Right? Yeah. Just follow your gut cuz you kind of know where it is. Yes. But we realized so heavily on the maps that we’re not even in touch with the direction. So we get to a place, the coffee shop and they’re like, how do we get home? Oh, put it on the maps. You know? And it’s like, that’s just a, a microcosm or the macrocosm of disconnection that we’re holding within ourselves.

Guy (09:37):
But we had fun with that and we found that we didn’t get lost.

Matt (09:40):
No, we found our way

Guy (09:41):
Admitted. Italy was only 15 minutes. It wasn’t across the state, but , you know, but

Matt (09:45):
Still it’s true. But back in the day, you know, like I, I would tell my mates in, uh, the middle of America that I’m gonna meet them in LA in six days. Yeah. And be like, where’s pick a place on the map, I’ll see you there on Thursday and then we’d go and we would bounce around and we end up finding ourselves or founding each other through synchronicities through, you know, just, oh, I’m just gonna go here. And then we walk into a coffee shop and there he is, you know, like here’s my mate.

Guy (10:11):
It’s like the universe is, is presenting opportunities constantly. Ah,

Matt (10:16):
Shit. Yeah. always right. But thousands of opportunities in each moment in

Guy (10:21):
Each moment, but we have such a narrow yeah. Focus and attention span and we can only actually perceive so little of reality yeah. That we miss it because we’re so fixated on the mind aspect of it and the problem hand. And that’s how we, that’s how it’s done. That’s how it’s

Matt (10:37):
Resolved. Yeah. I mean, I, I think back when, cuz I had a pretty scientific mind like logical math, strong mind did did. Yeah. I dunno. oh, do I still, maybe

Guy (10:49):
Just watching you set up this podcast set, like let’s let, just turn this dial slightly that way. Yeah. That’s

Matt (10:57):
It’s morphed in the podcast from computer programming, but um, no, but I remember, so I was nudged into engineering, right. So I’ve got an engineering degree. I went and did computer programming for five years, but it was, it was so destroying for me. It wasn’t my, it wasn’t my passion. Right. And so in that space I was so depressed. So overwhelmed, um, just frustrated with life because I had to go to that job every day. I’m like, is this all there is, you know? And it was like a, a deciding moment in my life. Like a pivotal moment is that I, I would’ve stayed in that job probably forever. And then my lunch lunch hours, I was a master at not actually working, but being there, you know, like I would roll no much

Guy (11:33):
Has changed.

Matt (11:34):
that’s it right. I’d roll in at five o’clock for everyone. Got there. Pretend I’ve been there for hours and then slot sloth off for two hours, have a nice tea, you know, come back. Yeah. Uh, get a couple hours in some FaceTime, then go do a three hour lunch.

Guy (11:47):
Right. He just pops the CD on. He doesn’t do sound session. He just plays it and goes and grabs a cup at the back.

Matt (11:52):
Don’t give out my secrets. Uh, but anyway, what I’m trying to say is that I finally got laid off from that job. Yeah. And it was like around 2000 when, when stuff in the computer world was just going down the hill fast. And um, and because of that, I saw that as a horrible thing, but also as like a relief, oh, I don’t have to pretend that I’m working anymore. You know? And I have to force myself to go into that office and do that job that I don’t like to do. And in that moment was like the, the week I got made, I got laid off was the week that I finished my massage training. And then I started a job and then I went into management and that led me into coming to Australia and then into this work that I do now. And it’s like, that’s one of like dozens of things. And like, if I would’ve looked at that, that many people say they lost their job and it’s like, oh, it’s horrible. Right. That’s oh, how, how awful that, you know, what are you gonna do now? Yeah. Well, Joseph Campbell would say that, you know, he’s like someone would say you’ve been fired and he’d say, cool, let’s crack open a bottle of champagne. Yeah. Let’s celebrate

Guy (12:49):
What a great opportunity. What

Matt (12:51):
A great opportunity. Yeah.

Guy (12:52):
It’s funny. Like we funny creatures aren’t we, because we, we like the way it worked, we need discomfort to propel us forward. You know? I, well,

Matt (13:02):
You don’t, you don’t need it. It’s one of the main ways to propel you forward. Yeah. Like, you know, that’s the other Beckwith quote, right? The pain will push to the vision pole. So if you don’t have a clear vision or north star where you’re going then, but,

Guy (13:14):
But there’s, but there’s discomfort points in everywhere. You know what I mean? Like I’m not like, you know, I’m a very driven person and I love leaning into our future. Like I had a moment today because we’re, you know, we’re leaning into our 11th retreat. Yeah. This weekend. And I know we have a lot of banter and fun like this, but there there’s, there’s a, there’s a very serious side to our work as well. But the, the good thing is, is that there’s context cuz we have fun and we keep a laugh for my intention for this retreat is joy. Cuz I wanna ensure that we have joy as well. So you know, we look at all aspects and it doesn’t have to be serious all the time and lighten up and you I’ll give you credit mate. You’re very good at lightening up situation

Matt (13:53):
oh, thanks

Guy (13:53):
Mate. You know, but, but the point of reflection coming up here, it’s like, wow, like, look, look how far we’ve come and look what we’ve achieved. And, and, and look at many people we’ve been able to support the help and, and help them realize themselves at a better degree as well. Mm-hmm and I think while, imagine if I’d stayed stuck in my old ways or old patterns and if it wasn’t for those choice points along the way, just like you spoke about and how it all synchronically and how we’re at this moment right here right now. And it’s, and it’s a beautiful thing. And then you can, it’s really nice to reflect and look back upon some of the choices that you’ve made and you can see the pains and see the struggles, but you, you value them so much more. You deeply appreciate them so much more in the wisdom that’s come from them. That’s allowed you to propel you into things you could never possibly imagine. Mm. That are way beyond, greater than any. My mind could have ever perceived mm-hmm or conceived, you know, mm-hmm and I think if we are willing to start to remind ourselves of that and start to lean into that and actually make sure that we start to be around people that support that and not poo it and put it down a word poo. You tell,

Matt (15:07):
You gotta tell daughter,

Guy (15:09):
The language is coming out now. do you need a potty? You

Matt (15:13):
Right? No, don’t pull any the what’s that band you put on. Oh, the wiggles might. Oh dear God.

Guy (15:18):
No. Yeah. You got in the car yesterday morning and I put a wiggle song off for him cause

Matt (15:21):
Oh you were testing sound last night. Freaking wiggles wiggles song came on Spotify playlist. Oh mate.

Guy (15:27):
I know it’s everywhere. Can’t away. Yeah. Um, I’m way off tangent, but Cooper

Matt (15:33):
Your, your, uh, vision and your, yeah.

Guy (15:36):
So, so then, and then for me, like as discomfort arrives, as these challenges arise, it’s, it’s an opportunity to explore. It’s an opportunity to lean in. It’s not is there’s inquiry right there. Mm. And, and if we can keep ourselves enough out of the egoic protective selves that wants to shut everything down and build that relationship, this is about what eight inches from your head to your heart? Is it something like that? Or if you’re tall, like me maybe a bit more. Yeah.

Matt (16:04):
You

Guy (16:05):
Know

Matt (16:07):
But,

Guy (16:07):
But the point is, is as you nurture that relationship and as it gets stronger, like, like rope binding and entwining getting stronger and stronger mm-hmm you then start to, like you say, right from the beginning of the podcast, as that arises you, you you’re then sensing and there is within the crisis. It’s like, what is happening here? What

Matt (16:28):
Is really is

Guy (16:29):
What really is. Yeah. And that’s reality. It’s like, we, we want to avoid reality half the time, but no, no it’s actually happening right now. You know what I mean? So let’s deal with it in whatever way. Yes. We are like, fuck challenges are right. Like, oh, come on, man. Gimme a break. I just wanna, you know, and, and I might even have an hour or two just like, but then

Matt (16:48):
Yeah. Well you find a ways to cope with it, but at the, the crux of it, you have a greater perception of what that means to your life development. Exactly. Right. And it’s the

Guy (16:57):
Helicopter view,

Matt (16:58):
That’s it? Helicopter view. Yeah. And it’s like, and you move from that, through that journey of, of, of consciousness from life is happening to me, to life is happening for me, you know, or through me. And it’s like, and when you get to that place, then you welcome in these things. To an extent it’s like, you know, you don’t wanna have to be in pain or struggle all the time. And that’s, that’s a whole nother podcast. So like, why do you keep creating so much struggle in pain and drama in your life? But you know, when it does arise, if you made it at that place of like, oh great, here’s an opportunity. I gonna roll my sleeves up and see what wisdom’s going to come out of this, that I’m gonna be able to find my way through. And then you’re talking about your tools with the balance and maybe you’ll take a step away yeah.

Matt (17:36):
And so forth and so on. But at the crux of that, what I’ve, what I’ve learned through my journey is that like an overarching theme is that, you know, it, it’s kind of kind of cliche these days that, that we’re spiritual being, having a human experience. Right. Mm-hmm, that concept. But as I lean into that more and more, and I build a relationship with that spiritual part of myself, that it is that that helicopter view does have that overarching Goodwill and, and vision for my journey. Yeah. Then things get a lot more easier. Things flow a lot more and it’s like, and then I can let go of that ego, like go of that little mind, that’s freaking out. That’s, that’s overwhelmed. And just be like, wow. The larger part of me, which I spend time in meditation through the work to build relationship with.

Matt (18:25):
So it starts to then allow me to detach a little bit from this bounded identity is wanting to tell me something and I haven’t been listening. So what do I need to stop and listen to for my growth and for it to nudge me on the path that it sees from that larger view, then my narrow minded perception of where I need to go. That’s not gonna get me where I want to go in the end because that part of myself has already seen it. So like, Hey buddy, wake up, dude, like pay attention. And that happens not only on a individual level, I find, but also in a cultural and planetary kind of way, which is what I feel we’re bumping up against is recently. Yeah. You know, is, it is a huge pivot point, a defining moment in human evolution. That’s being revealed and not many, many opportunities for us to embrace new potential within ourselves. Yeah.

Guy (19:17):
And I’ve listening to share that and just to then put it into context for people because you know, to experience that larger aspect of yourself. I remember when I, when I first started leaning into this work, it felt like, um, cause I had no reference points. Right. Mm. And so the only thing I could do is lean into podcast books or, or then start to find mentors and people that would start to help direct me. But at the, at the end of the day, it still was me that had to take the step and the actions to practice, to do it and, and lean in. But it always felt like, um, I was walking through it a long tunnel and, and you know, it’s, it’s that way. And there’s apparently there’s light at the end of the tunnel, but then all I’ve got is a torch.

Guy (20:01):
So it was forcing me to just focus one foot at a time and then just, ah, just stay like, oh, and then I’d look up again. Yeah. I can’t like, no, no you’re going the right way. Guy. Keep going. She’s you know, and then, and then all I had was this one for a time with, with, with my torch, that could actually only show that way. But then of course, once you have, so the point is, as I L into that work, going through this tunnel, all of a sudden, as I was surrendering more and more and trusting that tunnel, then all of a sudden I had an experience where there’s a vastness where you connect to yourself, you’re greater part of yourself, which you’re always connected to instead a present anyway, but you have this experience as far beyond the physical five senses. And then all of a sudden it’s like, ah, I’ve got a new roadmap now, now, now I really get all those books, all those podcasts, all those teachings, all those wisdom.

Matt (20:48):
You’ve embodied

Guy (20:49):
It. Hey, I’ve embodied it. So all of a sudden it’s become a direct experience, but the lessons wasn’t from the direct experience per se, it was from the trust and letting go of walking through the tunnel for the last 10 years prior to it. That got me to that point.

Matt (21:04):
Right.

Guy (21:05):
So the wisdom was really still everything I’d gained in the, the process process through, through the journey. Yeah. And then it’s like, here’s a, here’s a, it’s like, oh, you know, here’s a breadcrumb. I, I tried that on size and you just go, holy shit. Wow. And you have this experience and then you, you embody that experience, but you, you do it, but you problems, you still have the problems still there. Yeah. Everything’s still there. It’s not like, oh, thank you. My life is grand. And I can walk around wearing white clothes now. And

Matt (21:32):
No, but how you perceive the problems, how you receive the problems and how you be with the problems are completely different spot on. .

Guy (21:40):
Exactly. So all of a sudden, you, you are, you, you continually to embody something because the point is, is that until you actually start to use the tools and the practices and, and join in and use community to amplify these experiences and get into the body and get into the motion. Cause we are not our body. We are a pilot in a, in a car and the body’s the car, right. And we’re stepping into this and we go like Bruce, about 85,000 Ks before you have to change it, get rid of the car and change it for a new one after the time, right. Over a lifetime. Right. So if that is the case, then if all, if we are some collection of all of our experiences and choices and everything, and our body is a memory data bank, that’s even Judy Wilkins Smith was talking about, you

Matt (22:24):
Know,

Guy (22:24):
Goes through ancestral through our DNA as well. Right? So this body is then, um, created a certain environment that we’ve identified ourselves as, and two, but that is then conjuring up all also into our minds and our emotions that shaping our consciousness and how we perceive reality in that moment. So we have to get in the body to rework and clear the body to allow that perception to change, which then gives us a greater sense of connection, deeper connection to ourselves, to our bodies, to something far greater than us. And from that, we start to connect deeper to others and then the environment as well behind us and through all that connection and the intertwinement cuz we are all connected. We started then want to see a better vision of a future. We start to become more conscious. We want better choices. We want better things for our children and our families, but we don’t just think about ruminate about it and romanticize it. We actually take steps and actions that lean into making a difference, win, win,

Matt (23:26):
Win. Yeah.

Guy (23:27):
That’s what I wanted to say.

Matt (23:29):
you said it right. I got it. Yeah. A hundred percent, you know? Yeah.

Guy (23:35):
Hmm. Anything else to add?

Matt (23:39):
I don’t think so. That was

Guy (23:40):
A good podcast.

Matt (23:41):
I think we got it across the line. Find that bird wanted to participate there at the end, but yeah,

Guy (23:45):
We’re good. It’s beautiful. Yeah. But I think I just, you know, in closing and I’m sure you love someone saying on this as well, but wherever you are in your life and you’re listening to this, there is another way like, you know, I mean, just to, I don’t know why I don’t wanna add on a sad note, but like back home, my mom’s next door, neighbors, son committed suicide. He was 30 years old. Yeah. Like two weeks ago, right? Yeah. And the whatever fueled that, or I’ve been able to not express emotion. I don’t know the details or nothing, but when I hear that, like I just started crying in my heart San. When you think about the, the, the challenges and the difficulties that as humans living in modern day, society can be. And we can forget about that if we, you know, if we’ve got our whole house in order, but at the same time, you know, when you hear stories like that, it just, your heart goes out to people.

Guy (24:44):
You just go, there is other ways like it’s, it’s not, you know, so I guess the point being wherever who knows, who’s listening to this right now, who knows where you are, you know, emotionally, physically, or whatever, but there is another way. Believe it, even if you don’t believe it, cause you’ve not experienced it before. I promise you I’d guarantee it, that if you’re willing to lean into this work and lean into that deeper aspect of yourself, there is so much wisdom to be gained from wherever you’re at right now that can go on to create something that’s so beautiful in life, moving forward. It’s just, we need to, we need to be that diamond in the coal that gets squeezed so much. Sometimes that the, the Juul will then reveal itself. And from that, we’ll have a defining moment that can change everything. But not only change everything for us change everything in our lineage, moving forward as well. Mm-hmm

Matt (25:40):
Yeah. And I think what you, what you lean into it kind of sparks this, you know what we, what we’ve experienced every time we come to these retreats, you know, it’s like, we, we, we’re excited. What’s gonna happen today. As they, as they walk in and we’re gonna see all these bright eyes, 30, some people like two thirds of these people haven’t even met us before.

Guy (25:59):
I know. And

Matt (26:01):
Dunno what they’re in for but in three days there’s a, a resonance of heart connection of vulnerability, of love, of support. That’s palpable. Ah, it’s like you, you can’t walk in that space. I mean, somebody could come in from the outside on the third day and walk into that space. Like Paul did that as a videographer, he came through and was like, wow, what’s going on in here? Yeah. And to me, that’s the potential of what is possible in our world. And at the end of the day, what you’re talking about, you know, suicide or people that are, you know, going through these places of, of sheer, like trauma and, and horror and, and so, so painful that they don’t feel they can even go on with their lives anymore. That’s a symptom of a broken society. Yeah. Of a society that’s not aligned. That’s not supportive to itself in essence, in many ways. And that, that we could go on for days about that. But it’s like, then the question for me becomes H how am I gonna meet that broken society that I’ve chosen to come into? And what am I gonna do with my short piece, short musical phrase of that symphony? Yes.

Matt (27:21):
To create or help inspire perhaps a different song. What am I going to do? What can I offer? What can I, how can I help? Yeah.

Guy (27:34):
Bring to the table. Yeah. Thousand percent. Yeah. Amazing. There you go. All, we better get our ass, move in. We gotta finish setting up. Thank you for listening. Um, wherever in the world, hopefully we’ll meet you in person somewhere. Some stage soon, even in Portugal, we’re gonna been Portugal 20, 23 next July six, either five or six nights. We’re not quite sure yet. No,

Matt (28:03):
It’s not far from the states either. Are you passport

Guy (28:07):
Americans, Americans,

Matt (28:08):
Mate, this is what I’m. We gotta get these Americans out of that country.

Guy (28:11):
I don’t meet many Welsh people out here either. So I dunno much love everyone. Thanks for tuning in and, um, see you soon.