#202 Today, my amazing guest is Penny P. Lavin. Penny is an author, filmmaker, and energy healing practitioner. During our conversation today, we discuss Penny’s documentary and the following book, The Healing Field. We talk about how anybody can practice energy healing, how to get clarity on the big decision in life, and how we all have the power to change the energies that weigh us down.
If you are looking for actionable practices you can integrate into your daily practice, this episode is for you.
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About Penny: Penny Price Lavin is an award-winning producer and filmmaker and has worked on Good Morning America, NBC Magazine and many documentaries. She has been practicing energy medicine since 1995 and became an Instructor/Practitioner with One Light Healing Touch,™ where she is committed to helping others learn, heal, and evolve.
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Key points with time stamp:
- On practicing energy healing and making The Healing Field documentary (00:08)
- What can you expect to find in The Healing Field book? (02:29)
- Inheriting trauma from our parents in the form of energy (06:29)
- Can anybody practice energy healing? (12:04)
- Stories of energy healing in practice (14:09)
- Penny’s journey into the world of energy healing (19:20)
- Advice on how to communicate with your partner about your healing journey (25:32)
- How to get clarity on the big decision in life (30:29)
- Penny’s morning routine (35:02)
- What is the Running Energy practice and how can it benefit your day? (36:04)
- “You have the power to change the energy” (43:20)
Mentioned in this episode:
- The Healing Field: Exceptional Healing Practices to Change your Life, 2020. Penny’s book
- One Light Healing Touch, an energy healing school
- The Healing Field: Exploring Energy and Consciousness, 2014. Penny’s documentary
- Gaia
- Bruce Lipton
- Lynne McTaggart
- Kenneth Cohen
- Candace Pert
- Hyla Cass
- Qigong
- Gerald Epstein
- Ron Lavin
- The Living Matrix, 2009. A documentary directed by Greg Becker and Harry Massey
- Helen Keller
Penny’s Website:
onelighthealingtouch.com
www.amazon.com/Healing-Field-Exceptional-Practices-Change/dp/1532092393
www.amazon.com/Healing-Field-Penny-Price/dp/B076CTFC68
About me:
My Instagram:
www.instagram.com/guyhlawrence/?hl=en
My website:
www.guylawrence.com.au
www.liveinflow.co
TRANSCRIPT
Please note, this is an automated transcript so it is not 100% accurate.
Guy 00:00
There we go, Penny. Welcome to the podcast.
Penny 00:04
Hi, it’s lovely to be here. Thank you for the invitation.
Guy 00:08
I love to kick off the show. I asked everyone on the show this question, Penny. And that is if you were at an intimate dinner party right now, and sat next to a complete stranger, and they asked you what you did for a living, what would you say?
Penny 00:21
I would say that I am a filmmaker, and I’m also an energy healing practitioner and instructor.
Guy 00:28
Yeah. Wow. And what would the reaction you normally get? Because that’s quite a combination.
Penny 00:34
And I’m also an author that I recently, recently, I did a book last year based on the documentary, and I did this is an interesting thing I did. For years. For years, I, I was teaching one light healing touch as a as an international energy healing school, and we’re in the United States and in Germany. And then I began to see that people didn’t really know how to connect the dots of how energy healing can really help their life as opposed to just going to a conference and leaving it there. But how, how does it really affect our lives? How practical is it? So I decided to do the documentary and then the documentary is so popular on Gaia, that they also have it in German, French and Spanish is one of the most popular programmes. And then after I did the documentary a few years ago, the documentary is hold that up. So the document it’s on Amazon as well. And, and it has Bruce Lipton and Lynne McTaggart, and and Candace Pert and Hyla Cass and Kenneth Cohen, a world famous Qigong master, and Gerald Epstein, who was a world expert in mental imagery. But I did the documentary and it got it won so many awards. But I, after I did the documentary, I got emails from people all over the world. And they said, the work that the documentary has so much information in it, that they want that they have to look at it again and again. And again, because it’s so it’s so rich with information. So they said, Please do a book because then I could pour over and I could underline and so forth, because I wasn’t thinking about doing a book. But when I got a number of those emails, I decided to do the book, which I did, here’s the book. And the book has gotten a number of awards. And they’re both on Amazon. So the book is the same title, the healing field, and its exceptional healing practices to change your life. And just just a bottom line on the book. I want people like kind of the work that you do guy about teaching people so that they can use these practices in their life. So the book has so many different kinds of sound healing and Qigong practices and mental imagery and energy practices. So whatever page people turn to in the book, they can find something, you know, to do that day, and then another day find something else. So they can have an an endless resource of practical things. Because the huge thing that’s changing in in healthcare is it used to be generations ago, it used to be when we were ill, we would, you know, we would go to the doctor, and we would think that they would plug it in, we would get a pill, we would get an operation and they would do it for us. And the huge change in healthcare today is that we know now that self care has to be at the top of this, this triangle has to be self care at the top. And then the different modalities of diet and exercise and, and looking at your thoughts and looking at what you eat and looking at how you spend your time and looking at your sleep, looking at what you can do in your life. So it’s looking at all of those things. And the last thing is the traditional kind of medicine, which is that, you know, obviously if we break our legs, we need we need traditional medicine and pardon me we need we need Western health care because there are excellent, excellent at that. But there’s so much of what we are going through in our lives that are chronic conditions and anxiety and stresses and so many kinds of diseases that are chronic, and those chronic diseases really, really respond to self care. And it was interesting i i studied with Jerry Epstein, who’s in the documentary in the book, and he’s one of the leading experts in mental imagery, which is based on ancient Egyptian healing practices actually, which is fascinating. And what they said long ago which we teach also in one light healing touch is that the person really won’t achieve much progress unless they take action themselves. You know, it’s not like going to an energy healer Qigong master yoga class, and doing it once and thinking, Oh, everything is fine, you have to adopt a change of attitude, you have to chant, chant, adopt a way of being, so that you can bring that into your life and make and change the energetic pattern. Because what we know what we know, and one light healing touch is that the body holds on, it’s dense. So, it’s like, we don’t take one shower and think that we’re going to be cleaned for the rest of our lives. You know, it’s something we do on a regular basis, and what we know with energy healing with the, with the traumas, and the stresses being held deep in the body, that if you can learn to do these practices and also energy techniques on a regular basis, you will absolutely absolutely change your energetic and release those that programming and stress and blockages your you will release it. And what we know is that if you don’t do it, those traumas and blockages and stresses will stay for decades, for decades, and to next lifetimes even I mean, we we work with people and we say oh my god, that energetic that that person is carrying has been with them a long, long time. So what’s important is that a person can change the energy themselves. They have to do the practices healing techniques are are the way to go. And just know that they have to adopt it as a way of being in their lives.
Guy 06:29
Yeah, beautiful. Thank you for sharing that it’s so important, isn’t it? We we, we definitely get into the habit of our let me let me just get that person that I’m going to lay down here and they can fix me. You know, when we’re if we don’t bring that intention behind it, like you say, and that change of attitude. It can be a struggle. I’m curious to as well for you to touch on. How would you describe the healing field to somebody because I have many different interpretations. Even when we run workshops, we run half day workshops around the country and we ask people, are you familiar with quantum physics? Are you have you been exploring it and it’s only a small percentage actually put their hand up? So I’m kind of in my bubble here. I think we all know about this stuff. But I’m not so sure.
Penny 07:20
Well, I call it the healing field because of all of the things that we’re doing with the self healing practices, sound work, breathwork movement, sacred ceremony, visualisations, they all affect our energy. And that energy that we then can experience and go through shifts that energy, that that energy, well let me back up a little bit. All human beings, we hold stresses and traumas and programming. And big traumas are like we’ve got, and we hold a deep in our body deep. And most of the traumas that people hold are more around their heart, and around their second chakra, which is the emotional and sexuality chakra, and the heart is all about loving, loving yourself loving others loving the divine unconditionally. And those were our main areas where we hold blockages. And as we, as we use the practices and the healing techniques to release those, what we bring in with the energy with the electromagnetic and the magnetic from the earth, and this energy coming through us and it radiates out because we’re alive, this energy radiates out through all the chakras, as that energy radiates out. A person who is a person who is not holding the stresses and the traumas and that I can’t do it, oh, I’m not good enough. Or I’m angry, or I have this rage from my father that I keep holding on to, as whatever we’re holding, whatever we’re holding, this is the key, I’d love your listeners to know, whatever we’re holding from ourselves from our own traumas, or from energy that we brought in from our parents, there can be their stuff. And we might not even feel it, we might not even know it, but as energy they brought in and if your mother carried his sadness, or if your father really carried, you know, in anger, unspoken, we hold these energies into our bodies. And as you hold those energies, what happens with the electromagnetic energy coursing through us, that gets radiated out? And so look at what we’re radiating out to our families to our world. Are we radiating out love? Or are we radiating out compassion and understanding? Are we radiating out competition and judgement, anger, so that feel that field that we are constantly radiating, radiating out is that is the alive field that’s coming through human beings. And so when you want to change the energy that we’re radiating, just look at yourself, not look at others. Now look at what they did. Look at what is what is the energy that you’re holding? Because whatever you’re holding, you’re radiating. It’s like, you know, sometimes I say if you, you, if you if you, you know, you go to a party sometime and you’re feeling a certain way and then it one minute later you’re in the party and you’re feeling really buoyant is because we match energy, human beings, we all match energy. So something is buoyant and joyful, we’ll matching that, or you’re out with some friends and, and there’s a new person there and you start feeling tired or entire their entire order. And then you get home and you’re exhausted, and you feel like you were with an energy vampire. And you work because some people just suck energy, and they don’t even know they do it, but they just suck energy. So what it what you should know from that with a takeaway, all that is that even though this energy field is unseen, it is absolutely absolutely real. And it has an effect on us has an effect on our minds, on our hearts, on our bodies and our state of health. So what’s really important is to begin to take care of shifting that energy. And there are certain people that you know, you can’t help but be around, you know, sometimes you have a boss who’s toxic, or you have a relative that you have to see it reunions and they’re really you know, an angry person or something. So there’s some people that we all have to be around that we can’t help it be around. But what you should do is when you leave your work with that toxic boss, so when you leave that family reunion with that person who is very angry and putting out kind of judgmental anger, before you get home, sit in the car, and do running energy, which you want me to show your your audience later on, just do a wonderful practice called running energy where you release that. And the more you can make this a part of your life, you know, running energy, we have a great other practice called the six positions, which is really wonderful. So we teach all these different kinds of practices to be helped people to let go of the energy and come into their hearts, and come into a state of wellness and peace.
Guy 12:04
Oh, bless. Yeah, you said the key right there come back into our hearts, right. It’s fascinating on my own journey, Penny, you know, I was oblivious to this work. But then once I had a kind of a few little experiences with energy, and so Oh, my God, I actually felt that that was real, you know, it was tangible. It gives me permission to get past my mind and really start to explore it. And once we have that embodied, kind of reference point that it changes the game I found.
Penny 12:34
Well, let me just jump in there and say that all human beings can do energy healing. It’s a part of how we’re wired, we have electromagnetic energy coursing through us, and it pours out of us. And it’s like, when we’re young, and we, we fall, and we trip and we hurt our knee and we go over to our moms and they put their hands on her knee and it feels warm. And we know that there’s something really wonderful about that. So what we teach in one light healing touch is that is that it’s kind of like chopsticks, we can all play in five minutes. But if you want to play Beethoven, you need practice and you need it, you need a teacher. So that’s kind of what we’d like to do with one light healing touch. And we do our schools in person. And we do it via zoom, to really teach people who want to learn either for their own for their own body, mind and spirit, maybe they don’t want to do any energy healing work on other people, they just want their own healing. Or many, or I’d say 60% of the people who come to our work, just want their own healing body, mind and spirit. They want to let go of whatever’s in their way and they want to help moving on and why can I release this stuff that I’ve been holding on to and then I guess 30 or 40% want to learn how to become skilled healers, so they can learn that too. So it’s really for both people. So it’s it’s it’s anybody can be trained, if it if it feels that it’s something on your path, or you’ve always had hot hands and you know, you kind of love this work, then follow that call, you know, just
Guy 14:06
fantastic.
Penny 14:07
What’s into your heart follow that
Guy 14:09
100% question for you. Having your own school, you would have obviously worked with a lot of people and you would have imagined seen at all that can be seen and and I have no doubt as well. Students that come to you would probably have things to address themselves in their own life, like you say because they feel stuck and they’re ready to move on. Can you give us some examples of what you’ve seen through the years of people’s I don’t know if healings the right word OR?
Penny 14:42
No, no, that’s an excellent question. I mean, that’s exactly um, you know, that’s exactly why I became an instructor because I was a practitioner before I learned when light healing touch I was just a practitioner, and then I over the years I began to see the incredible healings that people go through. And I decided to be an instructor so I could help others and learn learn the work. And one one woman had fibromyalgia which is really swelling of the arms from breast cancer treatments that the doctors say there’s really nothing that you can do. Anyway, it completely went away by the third class. Another lady has asthma and fibromyalgia and asthma and depression, and again, went away completely by the third class, another lady fibromyalgia. She had it for 10 years. And, and it went away completely by by the end of the school. A woman came to the class last year and she had breast cancer, not a lot of breast cancer, but she had enough that they wanted to do a preventative mastectomy that they’re beginning to do more of, and she didn’t want that. So she came to our school. And then after she finished, she went for the mammogram, and she was completely clear. And every couple years, we’ll have a woman who had breast cancer and same story, it just it really was all of the healing work. It really goes. It really has disappeared. One lady, this is a crazy story. One lady came to our school one year, she was a lawyer, she worked in New York City, and she saw the logo of the hands. Do I have that hand? I’ve no, I don’t have a logo. But the hands have one light healing touch or Ron’s hands, and they have an energy on them. And so people who are very psychic can feel the energy and say, Oh, that I’m interested in that. So she came to the school. And it’s it’s one weekend, a month for a period of months. And she came to the school and we didn’t really know why she came. But after about the fourth weekend, she said, the reason I’m here is I have a friend who is in hospice, and she’s been in a coma for quite a while. And every time I leave the school, I go and I stopped down and I do the healing work. I practice on her what I’ve learned in the school, and I practice on her. And she said they called me yesterday and she woke up and she was totally clear and clean. And she was she was at total recovery. I mean, that’s one of the most amazing stories that I’ve ever heard. But every year there’s students who who will talk about you know, a condition that they had and then and then it’s gone so I hear it all the time or depression or you know, anxiety or this the simplest things, but the cancer we really there are many students we’ve had over the years who have had one kind of cancer or another and then it has been able to the healing energy has been able to release that release it so
Guy 17:49
it’s incredible. Hey, it really is and and no wonder more and more people are leaning into this work like there’s definitely a hunger for it. I feel now. Yes. Yeah, I actually remember interviewing Lynne McTaggart, because I know she’s in the documentary and she spoke with a lady. I don’t know if she mentioned this in the documentary. But they she ran a group intention healing to a class and the lady got up out of her wheelchair after that. Wonderful dumbfounded. Yeah, she could like couldn’t believe it. Wonderful.
Penny 18:25
My husband Ron live and who’s the founder of one light Healing Touch. He had a client recently. And she was a mom and she’s a nurse and she lives in this area. And she has a little daughter who has some kind of neurological condition. Little daughter like you know 18 months old she had a neurological condition and she couldn’t she couldn’t stand upright she was always wobbling and the the neurologist didn’t know what was wrong but maybe would work its way out who knows. Anyway, she came to a session with RON and RON lay the woman down on the table and put the daughter on top so she would feel the safety of being with your mom. And then he did a healing on her on the little daughter and they went back to the neurologist the next week and she could walk could walk completely straight so whatever whatever neuro neuro you know neurological issue she had that just got straightened out so yeah, it’s quite amazing
Guy 19:20
it’s currently this incredible isn’t it? I’m curious to know Penny How do you did you get into this like cuz you’re you were in media from not mistaken. And and from, from what I see I don’t I actually don’t watch the media to be honest here now, but from what I see, we don’t talk about this work much in the media. So I’m fascinated how did your transition go from media to this or or that aspect of your life?
Penny 19:51
Well, since I’ve been a child, my path has always been both media and healing work. When I was when I was a child I had a little local newspaper with a girlfriend and we would write our little stories and our parents would buy our little news. So I was always interested in and later in my later years, you know, when I was a teenager, I had a byline in a local paper in Philadelphia. So I was always really interested in media, and, and communicating. And then, when I was 11 years old, my girlfriend said her father was in the hospital and he had a heart attack. And she’s she knew I had an ability to be very psychic. And she said, Can you do something? So I close my eyes. And I just imagined him in the hospital room and the bed and the, the dresser and the window and I, I just saw what I saw. And then I just would bring, and I brought in certain colours, but I didn’t know why. You know, when you were a child, you have this world of imagination. And I just brought in certain colours for like, 10 minutes, and I held the energy. And I just stayed with it. And after about 10 minutes, it really felt right to release the energy. And so she told me the next day he was Mark, he was so much recovered, you know, on this completely. And she said, What did you do, and then I told her what I saw in the room, and so forth. And she was dumbfounded because she said, That was exactly the description of the room. And it was at that moment that I realised that that I had that ability to go into another level of reality that I didn’t, I didn’t really know, but I knew that I did. And then after that point, I just began doing colour healing, when I was, you know, when I’d sick pets or sick relatives. And I would just imagine doing colour healing. And years later, in Los Angeles, there was a very famous psychic who came to Los Angeles, and they were channelling the Goddess from Egypt, ISIS. And we began, I began communicating with this very strange, fascinating person. And he said, Oh, that I had been a priestess in her temple, many lifetimes. And we used to do a lot of colour healing. So what I know, so it came with me in this lifetime. And so what I know, it’s like when I teach students, and there’s an ability that they have, or their children have, you know, writing or music or something, or at a young age, that I know, well, that just came through with them and to honour it. So sometimes these abilities that we have, or so we so love this, the that’s that path that it comes through, and it comes through with us. So it was always healing, and it was always media. And then I was I was doing, I was working for a, a talk show in New York, and I did so many programmes on meditation, and people would go on to magic Oriya, and angels and mental imagery, and I did as well as, as well as very investigative news pieces. But I also did body, mind and spirit. So I combine them both. And I got a number of awards for both programmes when I was and it was a national programme. So so after seven years working in New York, I then started my own production company, and I just began doing my documentaries that I love. And then I did my documentaries. And I also became a practitioner with one light healing touch. And then I said, Oh, I’ve got to teach this, because I see what people how it benefits people. And if I could, if I could help bring this light and healing and experience to people so that it can benefit others. So I basically did both. So that’s so it’s always been the same. It’s always been media and energy healing all through my life.
Guy 23:48
Yeah, wow. That’s quite a journey. And it’s, it’s incredible. You know, like, because I’m always in admiration, anyone that’s written a book or done a documentary, you know, and really Putnams you have to be passionate about this stuff to go, you know, I’m going to do this because it’s not like, it’s no easy task. I’m sure even even if you are working in media, when when did you decide to make the healing field? And Did you always know that movie was going to be about that? Or was it something that kind of started to take shape as you were making the film?
Penny 24:20
When I was teaching as a, as I began, I was a practitioner with one light healing touch in the 90s. And then I became an instructor with one light healing touch in 2006. So I’ve been teaching every year since then. And it was around 2013 or 14, I guess. And, and I saw, I saw some documentaries on this field. And, like, the living matrix, I think was one of them. And I saw that, that it had a piece of it, but it didn’t have the other pieces. And I said, people need to understand how it all fits together. And then I then it was just a call of my heart that I needed to be able to find the best. You know, the best people in the field from Lynne McTaggart and Beverly Rubik, and Jerry Epstein, the best people in the field that could help communicate this so I could bring this to the larger audience. That was my goal. It’s always been to bring the information out so it could benefit others lives and help others and help bring in healing and light in their lives and in their communities.
Guy 25:32
Yeah, beautiful. I, you know, a question that occurred to me with all this as well, because you know, you speak about your your partner on daily as well, and you guys are doing this, and you’re both healers, which is quite quite a unique situation to be in a relationship. And I’d be interesting to think about what what advice you’d give to other people in relationships out there, because I’m very fortunate, my wife is very supportive of me. And we’re on the journey together. But quite often, people come in, it’s like, I can’t get through my partner. He’s just not wanting to look at this. I’m desperate to learn more. And there always seems to be like a bit of incoherence. Let’s say, when it comes to the relationships in that, what have you found over the years? And what advice would you pass on?
Penny 26:19
I think that’s an excellent question. And every year when people are in relationship, and people come to the classes, they say, my husband’s supportive, my wife supportive, but they’re not what, but what we know is that one of the greatest teachings we have in our lives is relationships. Because when we do something, if we do something that is unconscious, or unaware, or you know, we all do stupid things, if we’re lucky enough to have a person to call us on it, so that we can learn and grow, then we can learn and grow so that we can, we can heal that part of ourselves that was a bit unconscious, or was a bit too tired, that wasn’t aware of our environment. If we if we are not, it always depends on us. If we hold back, I say all the time to my students always be truthful, but always be kind. Because unless you’re truthful to your partner, they’re not going to learn how are they going to learn that they do something about whatever that they did that you don’t like? How are they going to learn if you don’t, if you don’t speak, and so many times people hold things back, because they want to be nice, and they don’t want to rock the boat and all of that. But in doing that, they’re holding this back. And they’re not benefiting their partner with how they’re feeling when that is being said, or, you know, was unkind or just thoughtless. You know, human beings, we do all kinds of things. So the important part is always be kind, because you don’t want to incur karma. You don’t want to go ballistic, because then you just incur karma. So you always want to find the kind way of speaking, but you must tell the truth. If you don’t tell the truth, and you hold it back, then what you’re doing is you’re holding this back in the throat chakra, which is communication and creativity. And you can get blockages there, you know, you hold it back and you have sore throat or you get thyroids or whatever. You know, if you’re holding it back and you’re not speaking it, you’re the one who’s holding it inside. And your partner’s not learning anything. So it’s really important to speak it up, speak up, it’s really important to tell the truth. So we can only take care of ourselves, you know, it’s really hard to change another person, it’s really hard to change ourselves, much less change another person. But if you take responsibility for yourself, and your own stuff, and your own anger and your own sadness in your own health, and getting those things in balance, if you can take responsibility for that and do whatever you can to change that energy, then your partner has some choices. They can pretend the change in you is not real, they can just pretend it’s not there. They can be afraid of it and step away, or they can feel the shift of energy that you’re experiencing, and then they can step up and join you. So it’s their choice, but you have to be responsible for what you’re experiencing and your truth. Because all we have in our lives is our time in it and our energy. And if we spend our time and our energy not doing what we know is good for us or for our families or for our communities. It’s gone. So we have to really take care and and one of the great things now with COVID is people are realising that life is fragile. It’s much more fragile than what people think you know, we all think we’re invincible. we’re young, we’re strong, we’re invincible. And now more and more people are seeing that, no, we’re not invincible, we really have to take care of ourselves, we have to take care of our communities. So partly is, there’s a whole shift of towards self responsibility. And I think an also a shift towards giving to other people and towards sharing, you know, compassion towards other people. I think that is a shift that people are going to see more and more of,
Guy 30:29
absolutely. Love it. Responsibility, truth and kindness, they all go, they all go hand in hand and like you say, like, like a found as I explored the work more in my own life, and you start having more compassion for yourself, and empathy, you can that then translate, and then you start to really see that in other people, which I think is where the magic starts to happen, as well. I’m curious as well, I just want to mention this quickly, because there’s on my show notes, because we’re still in the relationship. So you’re on it mentioned about how you guys found your house.
Penny 31:03
Is that Yeah, yeah. So in, I think 2006 He got a message in meditation that we needed to sell our house and, and, and move south a bit. And, and, and rent and not buy. And I didn’t want to hear that at all. Because I was doing a documentary and I was doing my school, I was doing a documentary on Helen Keller, that one so many, it was the spiritual life of Helen Keller, no less. And it won many, many awards, and it was on public television here in the United States. So you know, Moving is hard. It’s a lot of energy. I didn’t want to hear it. So I meditated. And I asked, which is what we teach our students, when you have a question, get quiet and meditate. And at the end, when you’re clear, then ask. So I did and I got a huge Yes. And then I A couple days later, same question. Same answer. Same thing a couple days later. Okay. So I did it three times. So I said, Okay, So Ron, I told my husband that I got the yes as well. And then he began looking for a house to rent because Spirit was very clear to rent and not buy. So this was months later, when we were almost ready to move the following month, and we still hadn’t found a house. And I was guiding my students and looking for a vision. And the vision that I was asking for was showing me the house. And I saw this vision and I drew it, you know, like we teach our students to draw the vision, and I was drawing the vision. And, and then the realtor called and said, there’s this new house and we went to see it. And that was the vision. And we moved, you know, very shortly after that. But the next year was when the crash happened. So we were totally, totally protected. We bought our house when the market was just beginning to go up. We sold it when it was at the height not of anything intellectual, just inner guidance. And so when the realtor said realtor when that when the movers said where are you moving? They had never heard but we what we were saying we said, oh, it’s there on the map. And they said, What, what’s your street? And we said, oh, it’s around, it’s right in this area on the map, because we knew about where it was. So that was a very cool story. And when we found it was perfect, and and so we stayed renting for a little while. And then in 2012, we really got that the market had settled in and then we bought where we are now. So you know you can’t make this up. And we would never have foreseen that the crash in 2008, you know, who would have who would have seen that the whole market all over the world would have crashed the way it did. But when you follow inner guidance, and I want to tell all your listeners this, and I know you know this too, when you follow inner guidance. Don’t worry about it making sense because it didn’t make any sense to us because we left this beautiful house we are living in. So don’t worry about making sense. Because if you get it and you really get a yes, not a maybe but if you really get a yes, follow it. Because we say to our students, when in doubt pass if it’s a doubt, let it go. If it’s a yes, follow it,
Guy 34:14
love it, love it. Another side effects of once you start to clear and have become more aware of the intuitive side of us, isn’t it? It’s really becomes a compass. That’s phenomenal.
Penny 34:27
And I say and I say and we say if it’s if it’s if it’s uh maybe let it go. And there’s lots of maybe things out there that are shiny, do this and do this and this and all those shiny things. But if they’re not on your path, all they do is take your time and energy from what what is really on your path. So we really wants students to follow their inner guidance because we all we really believe that each one of us have a purpose in this lifetime and we want to help people fulfil their purpose for being not something else life’s purpose, but their life purpose.
Guy 35:03
One of my mantras is if it’s not a hell yes, it’s a no. And it makes life. Exactly. You bet. You bet. It makes life much simpler, doesn’t it? Before, because I wanted you to share the share the little practice you mentioned earlier as well in a moment, but I’m keen to know what your morning routine looks like. Do you just get up and have a cup of tea? Or do you have like all these different processes that come in? Or it depends on how you feel? What do you do?
Penny 35:33
So when we when I wake up, or when when Ron and I wake up, we will have our we’ll have our coffee or tea and a small bowl of fruit. And then we’ll chat. And then we’ll go into this beautiful meditation room we have. And we’ll do one of the practices, the running energy, the six positions, and then we’ll follow it with meditation. And then after the meditation, we’ll look at what we’re doing that day. And we’ll get some greater clarity about something that we’re going to be doing that day. And then we’ll begin our day.
Guy 36:04
Yeah, beautiful. Would you like to share it with us now the running energy?
Penny 36:10
Yeah, I’d love to. So this practice was created by Ron, he his Higher Self, he opened to his higher self, which is how we get so much of the information for the work. And he got this as a wonderful practice for people to do on a daily basis. So it involves a cloud involves a grounding cord and involves opening to the light. So to begin, just imagine a cloud above your head, a white, puffy cloud clean and fresh. And just release all the tension, all the stress all the thoughts that are running around in your head. Just breathe and release, send them up into the cloud. And take another breath, all the thoughts, all that extra mental energy and breathe in release. Send them up into the cloud. And now take the cloud out the window up to the sun, let it be destroyed and recycled. And then cut your grounding cord under your feet we all have a ground we all have a grounding cord or would be sailing off into space. So take our word for it. So cut your old grounding cord under your feet and create a brand new grounding cord. Think of the roots from a tree any colour any texture you wish. And send that grounding cord down from the bottoms of your feet, the bottom of your spine and send it down through the soil down to the deeper layers of rock over centuries down through the tectonic plates and down into the core of the earth and anchor down in the core of the earth and feel the huge power of gravity and magnetism pulling down on your grounding cord. Sending it down deeper into the earth. And now bring your awareness back to your torso starting with your head and let’s release down our grounding cord now which is releasing at a deeper level then you just release into cloud. So feel into your neck and your shoulders in your head and anything it feels tight or tense breathe and release. sanded down the ground new cord let it go. And now feel into your chest and your ribcage and your midsection anything that feels tight or tense and that whole upper torso region and breathe and release. Us a breath and of sound and a sigh let it go. Send it down the ground and core let it be gone. And now your lower torso, your belly, your abdomen your hips feel into that whole lower torso region. And again anything that feels tight or tense and breathe and release. sanded down the grounding cord. And now feel into your legs big thigh muscles knees and calves. Again anything that feels tight or tense and breathe and release. And let it go. And now bring your awareness to above your head and bring in a beautiful divine light right above your head. Like our beautiful divine soul or son see it radiating, see it pulsating. Whatever way you relate to the Divine is perfect and find see that divine light right above your head saying hello. And now let’s invite the divine light down let it wash over your Higher Self Open your crown chakra and bring that divine light down through your brain and eyes, and jaw and throat, down into your chest. Let it pour down both your arms and hands palms up, let the light just flow out of your hands. And bring your awareness now back to your upper chest. Bring that divine light now through your lungs, cleansing and rejuvenating your lungs. So important in this time of the viruses clean those lungs, you vitalizing them and bring the divine light now down through your heart, the chambers of your heart, the valves of your heart, down through your breast tissue. And now down through your midsection and lower torso and belly and abdomen, and legs and feet down into the grounding cord. And connect again with a divine light above just open to the light. Let it pour down through you and over you. And bringing your awareness of light coming down your head down your arms and hands. And now put both hands on your heart, your left hand on your physical heart, your right hand on your heart chakra and run that light from your hands right into your upper chest area. Run that light through giving your heart a healing and breathe and open. And just keep breathing it open. And take a breath and open your eyes. So I did that a little bit faster than we normally do. Because you have a certain limited time. But did you like that? Loved
Guy 42:06
it? Absolutely loved it? Yes. Okay. Good. I can see why you do this
Penny 42:14
really is magical. Yeah, you can have stuff going on at work and people are angry or people or whatever. And you know, you do that. And it shifts the energy. One lady who came to the school was an elementary school teacher and she said she’d go out on the playground and her kids would see some kids fighting. And they said, let’s take all that energy into the end that away. And it empowers children from a very early age to know that they have that ability to shift the energy.
Guy 42:41
Fantastic. Is that in your book as well? But practice? Yes, it is. Yeah. Do you have other techniques and practices for people in there too. Or
Penny 42:49
I do all through the book, there’s techniques and practices. And also so our website for your listeners is one light healing, touch calm. And we have a couple mp3 or CDs. And this is on it perfect. So if they get number one, which is available, most of the things we have our gentlemen mp3 and it has six positions and this one and some sound work on it so. So the end, the short way to get our website is olh T and then the number one.com.
Guy 43:20
Got it. We’ll link to the show notes anyway. So anyone listening to this, whether on YouTube or Spotify, they can just drop down and link to your website to find out more as well. Penny, I got one last question for you before we wrap things up. And that is with everything we’ve covered today. Is there anything you’d like to leave our listeners to ponder on?
Penny 43:46
The main thing I would love people to know is that they have the power to change the energy. It doesn’t you don’t nobody has to stay stuck. Whether it’s depression or sadness, or we all have traumas in our lives, we all have tremendous things that are really challenging for us. We all do every single person. So have compassion towards yourself, and have compassion towards others and know that you can shift the energy. So it’s not a matter of doing something once but we they’re called practices because you have to practice them, you must practice them. You don’t take one yoga class, you practice it, you know, you have to do the practices. So be mindful and develop different practices that you like. I mean, in the book, there are so many different kinds of things that people can do. They have a variety of many different things. So you know you can do things on different days but begin to develop a routine of changing that energy so that you’re doing this for you because as you know you’re doing it for you but everybody in your life your family, your children, your community, everybody benefits, because we know that each person changes 10 Each person affects 10 people and as you change your energy and becomes more caring and more compassionate and more giving and more peaceful that affects your world. And those people affect other people. So we’re really all so connected if people would realise how deeply connected we are
Guy 45:14
100% 100% Penny, look, thank you so much for coming on the show, sharing your knowledge and sharing that beautiful little practice with us as well. I’ll certainly bring that into my arsenal toolkit and keep practising daily and see what happens. But thank you, thank you. You’re welcome. So I’ll make sure like I say everything’s on in the show notes for the listeners. If they want to check out your work more. Be sure to subscribe to Gaia as well and check out the documentary
Penny 45:42
on Amazon, too. It’s on guy Amazon.
Guy 45:46
Yeah, go fantastic. So so get behind Penny. It’s doing phenomenal work. And I just want to thank you personally and for all that you do as well. And we know the world needs it right now with everything that’s been happening and going on. But from my
Penny 46:01
thank you for your work. Thank you for your contribution that you’re making. To all of us. Thank you.
Guy 46:06
You’re welcome. I love it. I always grow from them every time I do a podcast Penny so it’s it’s win win for everyone. But all the best. Thank you and we’ll catch you soon. Thanks for listening everyone. The healing field
Penny 46:24
thank you Guy