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Guy (00:00:11):
There you go, Jeralyn, welcome to the podcast.

Jeralyn (00:00:13):
Thank you very much. Thank you very much for having me.

Guy (00:00:17):
Oh, it’s, it’s my pleasure. And I’m just looking at for your incredible background with the balls right now is absolutely beautiful. And I, and I really look forward to diving into your journey or topic and, and why you’re so passionate about this. And, um, but my first question to Jeralyn is if you were at a dinner table right now and you sat next to a complete stranger and they asked you what you did for a living, how would you describe it these days?

Jeralyn (00:00:42):
I used to say to my mom, mom, what is this classical singer professor doing now playing crystal alchemy singing bowl and communicating with her son that’s crossed over. I must be so weird. Like, what am I doing? And she’d always say, no, dear. You know, you’re helping so many people. So, uh, how do I name it? Um, I’m a musician and I’m a musician. That’s always been passionate about sound as a medicine sound as a, a balsam, sound and music as a place to activate love and to move places inside us that are blocked. Um, so I guess I’d say I’m, I’m, uh, crystal alchemy singing bowl, master Alchemist. I’m a professor of music. I’m a singer. Um, and I’m passionate about sharing this, this very sacred healing sound

Guy (00:01:40):
Amazing. Do you find that the conversation goes down that direction quite quickly these days? Or do you find it remains surface?

Jeralyn (00:01:50):
That’s a great question. Um, yes it does because whether it’s a doctor, whether it’s a cancer patient, whether it’s a young person, um, everybody can understand music. Everybody loves music in some form or another. And the sound from the crystal bowls is that, and people are interested. I think people are very, uh, curious about how can we take our health and our wholeness, so to speak really back in our own hands, like what are the things that we can do? Everybody’s heard of mindfulness and meditation and yoga and, um, you know, but what can we do on a daily basis that could help to stabilize us to help, to bring clarity and focus can music can sound really do that. And so they’re curious, and I’d say that many people, when they hear the alchemy bulls for the first time, they will either cry. Like my nephew is just telling, I mean, he has a set of bowls and he said he brought them to a retreat. And he said on the third day of the retreat, he didn’t bring them. And they were all, they were all like, where are your bowls? Bring your bowls back. So I think people are very open and interested in what, what is, what is it that the sound actually does? You know, why do I feel different when I hear that? So yes, very, very much so. I mean, obviously there’s certain situations where you probably wouldn’t, wouldn’t bring them up, but I, I really can’t think of anything now.

Guy (00:03:18):
Amazing. Yeah, no, absolutely. It it’s. It’s interesting because like I was talking to you off air, I’ve been involved more and more with sound on my journey from my own healing experiences and how powerful that was. And it actually helped me overcome grief. It really opened up my heart in a way I didn’t even know that was possible for an ex bug be playing Welshman. You know, it was kind of like, wow, this is, this is incredible. And that really started to make me want to look at the, these many modalities that I think Western society hadn’t been looking at, not mainstream, but it definitely feels very more acceptable now. And more and more people, uh, are leaning into, into these modalities, which is amazing. Did you ever imagine you’d be doing what you were doing now when you first started out? I mean, you’re a professor of music. That’s incredible. And I mean, if I’m not mistaken, you’re an not product singer too, is that correct? And I mean, you have singing in front of like, I don’t know, tens of thousands of people I believe. I mean, it’s

Jeralyn (00:04:29):
Yeah. You know, I, my, I knew when I was a young, young child that I was gonna go into music. I knew, I remember very distinctly, um, twirling around on our front patio and singing and moving my body and that it, it just felt so freeing. And I remember then as a little girl hearing a voice, a vibration, a deeper connection to God, however you wanna name it, that said freedom, and this, this will be your life’s journey. So part of me knew that, and, and then when I was 11, I sang a solo in the sixth grade and people said to my parents, you know, what are you gonna do? She’s talented. And, um, my mom ended up, they got a piano and, um, she said, you know, some things will happen now that may change your life. And, um, she took me to a voice teacher and a way I went and I started with a half an hour a week, and then that moves with, to an hour and there it was. And I was on my path. And when I was 19, I, I got my first Broadway contract. So I started in musical theater. I learned all about the great American composers. Um, and my teacher always exposed me to the Italian masters, to German leader, to French art song. And so I, I grew up with a very wide background of music, but always understanding guy that, that this instrument is something that, um, it’s my body, it’s me. It’s my essence. It’s everything that we are. And we all have a voice whether we sing or not. Um, when you go into that kind of singing Broadway and then classical music, you have to learn to, you’re a singing athlete, you have to train the muscles, you have to train the body so that you’re able to project in a 3000 seat theater over a hundred piece orchestra without any microphone. And so I understand it, I understood it quite a young age, what it felt that my body was the human instrument. I had these two little vocal chords and I had to learn to, um, come alive inside and light up every cell of me and let the, let that sound travel, you know? And how do you do that? You know, of being an athlete, like, you know, um, you have to train in a certain way and there’s a certain kind of discipline and a certain kind of structure. And, and then every different kind of music or piece that you’re singing has a whole has a whole different demand to it. So it’s, it’s, it was a, a beautiful, uh, experience to sing all over the world in different languages and, uh, be on Broadway and all that. And so, but I never dreamed that I’d be doing what I’m doing now. No,

Guy (00:07:11):
Yeah. Just on that before we, we kind of switch gears in that, like, I, they give you goosebumps, you share in that then, you know, to be able to project your voice and, and in such a large auditorium with thousands of people, like you say with no microphone, did you, what does that do when you learning to project your voice in terms of your own personal confidence and moving forward in life? Because I find that for me, I, I had no voice, like when I was that age, I was, you know, I was, I’m not the person I am today. I, you know, obviously there’s youth and age and things, but I, I never really got shown to follow my passion, follow my, my joys, my love, and, and step into that, where it seems that you kind of had that from day dot, you knew you were gonna do you’re out there. What, what was it like growing up with these kind of skills?

Jeralyn (00:08:06):
I mean, obviously you don’t know where your life is gonna go. You know, we never know where our life is gonna go, but we have, you know, my, my parents both said to me, you know, the most important thing is to have a dream and whatever that dream may be. My dad set me down and wrote on his yellow pad. And he said, you know, what, what does it cost? What will it cost you to achieve that? What things do you have to do? You know, do you have to practice? Do you have to take dancing lessons? What, what kinds of things do you have to do? And then, so he would say, what’s the price you have to pay. And then are you willing to pay that price? Are you willing to leave home and grew up in California and go across, you know, cross country to New York and everything was a yes. And, and yet, you know, you go to you train, train, train, and then you go to an audition. You have, you know, those 30 seconds or one minute, and you, you have to learn to be so grounded within yourself. And to trust that every single one of us has our own unique vibrational signature, you know, just like every instrument, you know, whether it’s a, you have 10 beautiful Steinway pianos in the same concert hall, every single one is going to sound different, you know? And it’s important that we understand that as, as early as we can in life, that my vibrational signature is my it’s my fingerprint. It’s my gift. It’s my soul’s purpose. And I think my parents made that, you know, they made that clear and okay. And I remember one of my main teachers in New York would, would always say to me, Jeralyn, take the question mark on, off your back. And it was like, oh my gosh, like, of course, there’s a question mark there. And of course there’s something in your, in your belly that just says, oh, am I good enough? Do I deserve? And there’s that little, you know, voice that’s always chatting where you could have done this. You could have, that could have been better. You know, and especially when I moved into classical music where it’s so precision oriented, it’s, you know, you have to be a part of a large ensemble with the big orchestra and the conductor and your colleagues. If you’re doing, let’s say in a Mozart offer, you’re doing a sextet, you know, and everybody has to fit and, and harmonize and intertwine together. So there’s a kind of precision in that, that, um, just makes you aware of, of so many other things. And yet you’ve got to be grounded in who you are. And I don’t mean like egoic. I just mean you have to have a strong sense of your place in the scheme of things, you know, that your instrument is part of a bigger orchestra and it’s very much needed. And so I learned at an early age, but I, I, you know, it does take time before you really say, okay, I’m gonna let that question, mark go, you know, and I’m gonna just ground into the truth of who I am as best I can in that moment every day. And, and just really another thing my parents taught me was to really, to, to do what you love and love what you do, you know, and my dad said, if you really love what you do, just go after it with, with all you have. And, and, you know, it’s never gonna feel like work. And it, it doesn’t music is music is such a gift. It’s really a great gift. And vibration is a part of everyone’s lives of everyone, you know, of every culture.

Guy (00:11:17):
It certainly is. I love that. Love that. So from your career, then I’d love to dive into a little bit, because obviously there there’s been a heartache in your life as well, and, and a pivotal turning point. Do you mind kind of sharing that, that part of your journey, cuz obviously it’s, it’s now led you to what you do today and reaching so many people, I, I guess the same way, but a different way, you

Jeralyn (00:11:44):
Know, totally different way. It’s, it’s really, it’s your own personal music, you know, so as a singer, I mean, I didn’t write my own pieces, a little, a couple of things we’ve done, but um, you know, you’re representing your vehicle. I always would say that, um, music is love in search of a word is a quote by Sydney. Uh Laier and um, you know, that’s, it that it you’re always looking to express love through whatever it is, but, um, no, I never thought life would, would go the way it’s gone. And uh, when I lived in Europe for many years, um, I started a children’s foundation. I always felt that it it’s important that again, music is a language that connects you without having to speak the same language and living in, in Germany, you know, I learn and to speak German, but we were in a community that had, was represented by 45 nations. So there was many, many different languages. And so I had this inspiration to leave a kind of legacy and I thought I would live there for the rest of my life. And so I created a, a children’s foundation and, uh, the purpose was to train, uh, a group of 15 to 20 children and then write an original musical for them. And then the money that we would raise, went to music therapy. So that young person let’s say who lost a parent or a, a sibling was suffering from cancer, whatever it was could get in a very uncomplicated way could receive music therapy. And, um, and then we, we supported another group, um, led by Peter Maffay, uh, a German, uh, pop star called tabalooga, where they also had about 80 kids that lived in a, in a home and they were using music therapy. So it was something that the kids that we trained could actually see that with their talents, they were helping other of in their own ages. And it was, we raised in the end over a couple of hundred thousand euros for this program. And so as a part of it, um, my son who was, uh, he was born and raised in Germany. He was, uh, eight when I first brought the crystal bowls home. So I was traveling with my mom in the United States and I heard that ’em and I, I fell in love with them. It was as if those bowl made a sound that my soul knew. It, it, it knew the song, it knew that vibration, it was so pure and so pristine and yes, it brings you to tears. It makes you have goosebumps. It’s something you, your soul deeply knows. So I bought a set of seven bowls and I brought them back to Germany and I’d play them for the kids and the kids foundation. Uh, when I was teaching them singing, if, if a young person had a blockage, I’d ask them to take one of the bowls. Um, so I, I started, you know, playing with them, uh, as a professor. And, you know, if, if someone had a blockage, I’d ask them to choose one of the seven bowls. And each one that I had brought back was a note for the chakras. So there was root chakra, the sacral and up until the crown. So there was a, uh, C D E F G a and B. And it was phenomenal to me that the blockage would dissipate. They would take one of the bulls and they would, ah, Mmm. They would just hum or tone with it. We would do some of the exercises and the blockage was gone. So, um, when my son was just turning 13, he was, he was a part of the kids’ foundation and they all entered a, a music contest. And, um, every year it was a different instrument and the year he entered it was singing. So he knew the bowls really well when he was little, he’d always say, mommy, bring me to bed with my sound blanket, you know, and we’d do little prayers and meditations. And he just loved again, the sound is very, um, it’s just come. And, um, he made it to the summer finals guy. And, uh, one week before the summer finals, he came in the room and he said, mom, mom, mom, mom, my voice. And his voice started to drop. And at that point I had never accompanied a young man through their voice change. So we used the bowl and, um, you can see above me, there’s a little yellow bowl and that was the bowl he loved. And it was citrine. So talking earlier about citrine has to do with activating our personal power, our confidence, our self-esteem, and the note happened to be the G, which is at the throat chakra, his voice stayed open. He was able to do his contest beautifully, and he’s stood up and said, my name is Dylan. And since one week I’m no longer soprano. So he was able to make a joke and sailed into his program. And that was really for me, like seeing my goodness. There’s something more, again, I wasn’t studied in music therapy or anything like this. We were supporting the, the, the programs that our therapist from the kids foundation were implementing, but it was like, this really has the ability to go be beyond what the mind might think, you know, or fears or anxieties. The sound has the ability to take us beyond that, to quiet the mind for however long it does. And then you move into this place of the sublime, or you move into this place of possibilities that if the mind wasn’t stilled by the music, you might never have gotten there. And I watched it time and time again. And so going back, my son passed away. So he was 19 years old and it’s go, gonna be coming up on seven years. And, um, you know, for any parent, it’s just, there’s, there’s no words you can’t believe it’s not my life. It’s not my child. It’s, it’s not my destiny. It’s just like you, you rebel against everything. And on that night that he died. Um, I walked down to the ocean where I live in Southern Cal and California. And I looked up at the sky and there was this huge shooting star that seemed to begin over my parents’ home, where Dylan and I had been staying and crossed the LA basin and land in the mountains behind LA. And I could hear his voice, mom, mom, you know, it was like that vibration that I heard as a four year old, it was just, I could hear his voice. I made it. It’s like, we always talked about I’m home, I’m home I’m with God. And you know, that was the beginning of okay, like the beginning of not then on that night. But as I trace everything back, he was letting me know on that very night, mom, there’s something so much bigger than you and I could ever have imagined in this inform. You know? And I come to understand with the work of Dr. Sue Mor, who, um, Dylan led me to her, you know, and which is crazy. But three months in, after he had passed away, I just got this kind of knock knock knock. And he was a ski racer and a, uh, a big athlete. And we had traveled to many of the places in the world with high peaks. And we had gotten to see Mount Everest. We had been in Shamini in, up to in France and we wanted to go to Machu. So about three months after he passed away, I, I, I heard him, mom, we’re going to Machu. And I, I said, okay, and who are we going with? And I opened the computer and I Googled spiritual journeys to Machu Petro. And Dr. Sue, Marty came up and that’s how I met her when, when I think about that, because her work and the energy codes changed everything, you know, and I, I had this conversation and I was like, mom, son, don’t. We wanna go with a, the native shaman, you know, a catch one, mom. She is the shaman. And, you know, he’s having this dialogue with me and that’s what happened. I went with Dr. Sue and everything changed. She took this as his picture and I gave her, um, his, this little picture, um, on the day that I met her in Cusco. And she did a ceremony for him up on the top of Picchu, that famous, famous peak. And I was too in grief. I had had a pretty bad breakdown the night before I, and I couldn’t climb the mountain. There was just no way. So I went on the other side, um, and, um, she came down the mountain with the small group and she just said, you have, you have to see this picture. And there’s a he of light. That’s coming out of his mouth from the heavens. And I saw in that moment, she was crying. And I saw in that moment, what she was teaching me, we are made of energy. Everything is energy, everything, everything is sound vibration. There’s, it’s light. You know, we are, you that’s gets compressed and compressed and compressed in a human form. And I, I knew that in a certain way, I wouldn’t have named it that, um, as a singer, you know, I knew that that quickening and that feeling of you’re so quickened in your core, and yet this sound is coming out or this light, because you could feel as a musician, that there was also a light coming out through your voice. So when I saw that picture and, and began to put two and two other, that we really are, that, and Dylan is that, and there is no separation. And there was just so many funny things on that trip. Like he loved, um, Tinton. I don’t know if you know, Tinton and his little dog snowy, uh, the comic book series, the French comic book series. He collected every single one of those. There’s 16 of ’em. And when I got to my room at the place in, um, in Machu Picchu, my, my room door on it, it said Tinton. And I’m like, what? And I can hear his voice. Well, mama, are we having fun? Now? You having fun now, mom, like, so all these different signs and things has, have happened and they continued to happen. We have a relationship now that’s beyond what I ever conceived of as a parent. I mean, and I, I understand now through the energy codes that we have a so contract and that, so contract was, I’m gonna go before you, and we’re gonna build a bridge between heaven, an earth, and I’m gonna, I’m gonna help. And we’re gonna share music in a way that you never thought was possible. Now, when I think about that, and I think all son, I never signed that contract with you. And when I see you, I’m gonna talk to you about that. You know, he just laughs, but it’s like, there’s a bridge with that is not possible with anything else. I, I think is what I’ve come to experience. And I am connected with him every single day through that, that sound vibration, whether it’s light and, you know, if, whether it’s light or whether it’s his voice or whether it’s just funny things that he does. Um, um, and that’s, you know, what, it’s, it’s made it fable. It’s made it, um, variable. It’s made it, um, joyous because we’re together in a way that we couldn’t have been in this human form. You know, it’s not what you, it’s not what you wish you wanna see your child grow and have a life and share and all that stuff. But there is a bigger plan for all of us and if we can remove ourselves and, you know, so like when I’m as, as a musician, I was a, I was a, a higher soprano. And, um, so, you know, singing those very high notes that are really, they feel like they’re outta your body, you know, above your head. Um, I know what that is. And so when I play notes that are high, it’s opening this portal of light and connection. And yet at the same time when I play deep notes or when I would sing more grounding notes, you’re connecting yourself in this human form. And so when you combine the two of them, there’s a rich between understanding that, as I said, that we’re so much bigger than our stories and that, um, when we can take that perspective of up here and look at our lives, instead of being a victim, everything changes and everything changed in my life. And you know, when you ask me, like, what would I say, you know, I say at dinner party, or what would I say, you know, I would never have dreamed I would’ve met Dr. Sue. I would never have dreamed I was playing for Greg Braden and Jodi Benza and, um, Anita, more Johnny or that, that any of the things Marian Williamson that have happened have happened are now I’m working with a couple of young, um, R and B singers, pop singers, and helping them integrate, uh, the, in their music. And they reach millions and millions of people. It’s like, wow, he laughs you know, he’s just, he’s like, mom, you know, I gotta make you cool. You know? And it’s like, it’s like, son, you know, it’s just like we knew when you were little like music is that language that connects humanity. It touches at heart to heart. And, you know, whether I can say gut and talk or Bon, I can just say, hi, it doesn’t matter. Music goes right. You know? Right. To the essence of who we are. It’s huge. Yeah.

Guy (00:25:19):
That’s huge. Jeralyn, that’s huge. I, um, I’m just thinking that the listeners right now as well, cuz we have people like come to, through that it with grief, grief is very common, obviously as well. And, and I would love your insight because I guess when something like that happens, um, I’m thinking about the, what keeps coming up is you need to feel it to heal it. And, and I think it can be so confronting. How do you allow yourself to go there? You know, because sometimes it can be it’s so big, you know, was so big. Was it the, the, because of your sound and your, your, your background or was it because you were already open to everything or how, what, what, what was it that allowed you to do that and mean it’s just beautiful.

Jeralyn (00:26:13):
It’s such a good question because you know what, the beginning, I couldn’t get outta my bed. And the doctor said, we, a couple of them said, let’s put you on an anti antidepressant. And I was, I was insulted because I was a healthy woman and it was like, why you put me on a drug and it’ll never bring my son back. And I, I knew then that if I don’t have the courage to feel the loss and you ask yourself, how in God’s name do I ever feel that, you know? Um, but I knew that if I couldn’t feel it just as you said, I could never heal it. I knew instinctively that I had to be able to land in that, but not to sink into a depression that I never could get out of it. But I knew that if I didn’t feel it, it was never gonna change. And you know, I mean, you go through every, everyone does, you go through layers and levels of it. But I remember there came one point where after the beam of light and everything with Dr. Sue, where I, I just thought I have to do something. If I don’t do something I’ll never ever get outta my bed. So I called the cancer support community, which is a nationwide organization here that, uh, supports cancer patients and their families with, uh, alternative methods, whether it’s yoga, kind of, um, group therapy, um, music, whatever it is. And I offered to do crystal alchemy sound hailing, and I had never let a meditation. I was a singer and a teacher and I wrote myself a ripped and I went and it began to change everything because I could sit in a group of people, you know, it didn’t matter. They knew what grief felt like. They knew what loss felt like, whether they were suffering themselves or a beloved family member was, I felt so safe with them. And I began to hone my craft. And there was one moment where I just said to myself, throw your script away. Like just lead the meditation from your heart. And it was just like, which, you know, and it was, it was such a thing because what was happening there was what I said earlier. Music is love. And after those sacred sound sessions with the cancer patients, we would share. And, you know, people said things to me, like one lady said she was a, a traditional meditator for 28 years and had never meditated with sound. And she had stage four cancer. And she said, I, I don’t even know how to put this in words. But she said, I’m, I’m no longer afraid of death because has, I’ve heard the sounds of heaven. And so stuff happened in those groups that transformed my life because I recognized if I could just get that little piece bigger than my own pain. And just again, take that bigger bird’s eye view of things. I wasn’t sinking in that. And I remember there was a moment where about five months in, after Dylan passed, it’s like, knock, knock, you know, mom, call the bold dudes. We’re gonna do sound healing. And I’m like, leave me alone. I’m grieving. You like leave me alone. Mom call the bold dudes. And it was three days in a row. And finally I sat down and I called the, the crystal tones in, in, um, Utah. I spoke with one of the owners and I said, this is what’s happened. And my son is telling me to call you. And so I chose 11 more bulls guy and I picked them out. According to what, what I thought might connect me to him. Cite is grounded. White light rose courts is for the heart. Ruby is for transformation. Charcoal is for cleansing and clearing. Um, and when those bulls came am, Celestite connecting to the heavenly realms. I started to play those bowls in a way that I hadn’t played the other bowls that I had because I sat and I could feel this Misty white presence in the room. I could feel my son in the room guiding me. And I started to weep. Like I’d never allowed myself to weep. You know, I was in grief therapy in a support group. And the words just, they weren’t enough. Like you would repeat the same words over and over. You’d tell yourself the story. And if I only had done that, and if that, you know, that could have been, and it’s like, you would go over and over and over, but nothing changed. You felt like there was a little bandaid here on this part of your heart, but then, you know, the next time you talked about it, the bandaid wasn’t there anymore. It was just like, Ugh, but this was the first time that that sound held me and he held me and I’ll never forget keening and screaming and groaning and just letting the grief rip. And I got up to wash my face and there was light in my eyes for the first time. It was like what? There was a light in there that I hadn’t seen in in months. And I understood my gosh, okay, the sound is gonna create this kind of sacred container and you get to just feel it it, and then guess what, after you go in and feel it and grown it or whatever it needs to do, it transforms and you are transformed. And it, it blew my mind because it was so much beyond what talking about anything did.

Guy (00:31:44):
Yeah. Wow.

Jeralyn (00:31:50):
Yeah.

Guy (00:31:53):
The that’s incredible. Absolutely incredible. I, I, I think about the moment because it can be so terrifying to allow ourselves to go there, cuz we, I think we are frightened of what reveals it reveals itself, but it, that moment when you allow yourself to, to truly feel and pass everything is beyond the mind and it’s almost, there’s, there’s a greater depth. There’s something beyond the mind that knows exactly what to do if we allow it to happen. And I’m curious to know from that moment on, as you move into what you were doing now, more and more, did you just surrender to the whole process or, or did you get up and go, right? I’m gonna start become working with sound like how did it evolve from that point on?

Jeralyn (00:32:48):
I mean, if you can imagine, and of course you can, I know you can, you’re so vulnerable when you are in grief and you know, you’re still in shock because it’s, you still, you pinch yourself and go, it’s not my life. And there was one evening where I was laying in bed and it was, it was the middle of the night. And I woke up with a start and he was in the room with me. It was like, I could smell him. I could feel him. It was warm. It was like he was right there with me. And uh, you know, you kind of were in space between then sleep and being awake, but he had a conversation with me and then I closed my eyes and fell back to sleep. And when I woke up in the morning, I jumped out of the bed and went to his room. Sure. I was gonna find him. And then I sat on him on his bed and I went, I can’t believe how absurd this is. And I looked down at my night gown and there was a white feather embedded in the threads of my night gown. And I don’t have down pillows. I don’t have anything down in my bed. I’m allergic. And I went, oh my gosh, he was there. There was a sign for me from the angels that it’s like, so it’s not something you can plan. There was no way, like, I, I, I did not set out to make a career. I did not, I just had to heal my grief. And I didn’t know how, except for, by just the things that began to unfold. So one of my friends, um, I heard him play at a concert. I met him at a concert and he broke me. He broke my heart open. He’s a Keon singer, he’s Australian, Kevin, James. And afterwards I went to speak with him and he said, why don’t you sit and have, have a, a meal with us? And you know, you’re, again, you’re so vulnerable because it’s just, you’re present with that grief all, all, all the time. And then, um, you know, he shared, he was lead a, a retreat to India called, uh, heart songs in the Himalayas. And I went and miracles happened there in, in the Himalayas. And it was like just one step at a time, like just one step forward and following what felt right, what felt healing, what felt true in my heart and on that trip, when I go thought, when I was flying from, uh, deli to Lei and we flew over the Himalayas, uh, I looked out the window and everyone was taking pictures. There was this huge rounded rainbow, and I’d never seen a rounded rainbow before. And when I got off the plane and looked at the, the picture that I had taken on my phone, his face was in the middle of it. And it was like, and I found out afterwards that he had, I had had a sound therapy treatment before going on the trip to India. And, um, I had just said to the woman, I’m just nervous to go on my own. You know, it was, I had to be brave. He forced me to be brave and go beyond my comfort zone. And she told me afterwards, she said, he said to her in that therapy session, that sound therapy session, I’m gonna give my mom an unmistakable sign. And she didn’t tell me that. But when I showed her this picture and you can see like his little sunglasses in his face, in the middle of the rainbow, it was like, all these things, these gifts brought me closer to understanding there is, there is such a bigger picture. And if I’m willing to drop into those feelings that you just, you, you, you think they’re impossible to feel, cuz they’re so huge. And I had one moment where I thought, you know what? I can’t do it like, and I would recognize that when I’d get really in grief, I couldn’t find him. And then I would, I would, I would be so anxious. It was like, where are you? Why aren’t you here? And silence when I was deep in grief and not able to who elevate, elevate myself at all, I couldn’t find him. And there was one moment where I, I stood in the room and I, I, I got a knife and I, I put that knife close to my chest. And then I called my mom and I just said, mom, I don’t know what to do. I just, I don’t know what to do. And she said, if you take your life, I’ll kill you first. And that sobered me. I mean, it was just like, God bless my mom. It sobered me in that moment. And I never went there again. And I’m sure for many of the, of the listeners that you have, those moments where you just go, God, just take me. I’m done. I I’m done. It’s too big for me in this by. And he taught me, it’s not mom. And to watch the process to live in the process of just taking one moment of grief and then the next moment of grief and then the next moment, and then seeing, oh wow, that door open. And then I would get, like, I got an idea to write to, don’t ask me how. I just, I have no idea how I did that. But I wrote to Greg Grayden, I mean, and, and they, you know, and they answered. And so it’s like, I would just get these ideas and then I, I would follow them, but they weren’t built on, they weren’t built on anything else except for, I just have to heal the pain. It’s so bad. And then, you know, piece by piece light came back and then that light was sustaining more and more and more. And as the light sustains in us, we are open to possibilities. We’re open to truths that when you’re sitting in grief, you can’t find them when you allow your mean again, it’s the fine line between you need to steepen it. You need to feel it, but you can’t let it take you down. And there there’s just that that line is so fine for all of us. And I remember seeing in the therapy group, um, parents that had lost their children 25 years ago that were still going every day to their graves and were so sad. And I just thought after I had that miracle with Dr. Sue in the beam of light, I just thought that’s not my a path. My boy is here and love truly is eternal. We just change forms. And if we can, if we can find that, that light. And for me, that was music and sound vibration that led me there. And just listening, like, like as you asked, like just listening what’s next, but never pushing it cuz you can’t cuz sometimes as you, as you know, like the grief will just overtake you and you gotta sit down and you gotta breathe, you gotta ground yourself. You gotta feel it. You know, and then I’d sit and play the balls and then I’d cry and then it would pass and you get up and then you do something for the cancer patients or you, you know, whatever it is. But it’s finding those things that somehow uplift your heart, even just that tiny piece so that you don’t sink down so deep that you can’t get out. Cuz then he was never there couldn’t find him. So I think for me that was also the motivation, like, okay. I, I just have to be brave enough to sit in the depth of what nobody wants to sit in.

Guy (00:40:18):
Yeah. Thank you for sharing. Incredible. Um, yeah. The, this two things that stand out for me, one thing that as you were sharing then, because I think we all love the idea of being able to just follow our heart more and fall into this surrender and trust that there is something greater beyond us that is with us every step, the way for our greater goods and potential. And I think you could ask most people and they love the idea of believing in that. But whether they, they truly embody it, believe it and act upon it. Uh, you know, they, they’re two very different things. And I guess the question to you is cuz I, I even asked you more to this. Once you come on the podcast last week about, you know, how do you live your life these days? Cuz you’ve know you are so established, you’ve achieved so much. And she said, guy, I’m just having the time of a life. It’s easy. I just keep surrendering and falling into myself and it just keeps opening up for me. And I’m like, wow, that’s just amazing. But they say as well, we often need a wake up call to truly wake up or to come into that. And I guess my question to you is thinking of everyone listening, do we need to have the wake up call to wake up or do we, how do we allow ourselves to fully surrender and trust from that? Especially if we haven’t experienced something beyond the mind yet. Or if we quote in our mind a lot,

Jeralyn (00:41:58):
Don’t wish it on anyone. I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. I just don’t wish it on anyone. And I’m very passionate about teaching. Um, I teach 32 hour trainings level one, level two level three, and I have the joy of watching people step into their true vibrational signature. So watching them step into removing the question mark off their back, um, that moment where I threw my script away, you know, I’m not gonna lead a meditation that I’m reading, you know, and hoping that everyone has their eyes closed, but there I am reading my, my meditation script, you know, and I get to watch the students really land in why they’re here, you know? And I think everybody has, you know, we come in with the, the things that we need to work through. Some are as Dr. Sue will say, some are a level 10, some are a level five, but I think everybody has the ability to awaken to their purpose. You know, and to, to, if you want to go there to that depth, you know, you may be in a job that you thought you, you trained in in university and then you took a job. It’s just like what you, you were sharing about your career and you made this incredible, uh, protein powder for a particular reason. And suddenly it was like, you know what that finished? And it led you to your heart was saying, it’s time to do this. And the whole joy is, you know, like I was working as a professor at the university and after Dylan passed away, it was like, I can’t be around 19 year olds. I can’t teach them. I can’t, I can’t, I can’t do it. I just can’t do it and back and forth. I don’t, I don’t wanna leave that kind of situation. But in the end, when you listen to your heart and it’s guiding you to move into something else, it it’s, I think it’s, it’s where we’re supposed to be. Um, but it’s a very personal journey and I love to hold space for the students to watch them just, okay, I’m gonna, I’m gonna go that way. And then that opens to that. And which opens to that, which that would’ve never happened if they hadn’t have taken that particular risk. And I think life is asking us now this what you said, Dr. Sue said, I mean, life is asking us to keep landing deeper inside, especially during this whole time of social isolation and, you know, fear and anxiety and you know, life that I think everyone’s realized life is not going back to the way it was before the pandemic started. And I think we’re, we’ve all gotten used to, okay, what are we, how are we reinventing ourselves? And how are we reinventing the way we look at our lives and what’s really possible. Uh, and again, I, I didn’t start out with any business plan or any, anything to do. I just knew I had to find a way to heal the incredible pain that was inside and that meant listening a deep listening. And I would invite everyone to find that stillness and to start to listen. And then when you hear that, that voice, even when it’s tiny to just take a step in that direction and follow it, I mean, the worst thing that can happen is you turn around and go in another direction, you know, but if we don’t risk, you know, and there was, there was one, one day in the kitchen, I was also in the kitchen and he says to me, mom, we’re gonna do an online series. And it’s called the sacred science of sound. And I’m having this argument with him. Well, wait a minute. The sacred science of sound that doesn’t make sense. It should be the science of sacred sound. No mom is called the sacred science of sound. And this is who you’re gonna invite. You’re gonna invite Deborah PRAL in mid 10. You’re gonna invite Greg Brad. And you’re gonna invite Anita Mar you’re gonna invite Dr. Sue. And you know, this whole list came down and I’m like, no, I don’t think so. You made me into a sound healer, but I’m not gonna be an interviewer. And it was like, yes, mom. So begin. And then that was to, to 17, to 18, that whole thing unfolded. And it was, it was free. It was. Um, and, and the idea really from, from him through me, was to bring together all different aspects from scientists and musicians, um, all different kinds of professional people. But what is the intersection of, excuse me, of, um, science spirituality, the healing power of music sound vibration, where do all those intersect for all of us and what, what do they ignite in each of us? And that, that was how it started. And it’s, it’s gone on it’s very much, um, very, very much alive. Now we did, uh, another event in 2020, and then a, a live event before COVID in two 19. Then we had a season this last year and more younger people have come in and it’s, it’s just really fun to explore what is that, that connects us, what connects us and how can we each empower our own selves with vibration? You know, whether it’s, um, tuning forks, whether it’s gone, whether it’s dancing, um, singing, um, learning about the biofield learning about the chakra system, whatever it is, where you, you take that information and you say, wow, I can integrate a little bit of this and that. And then suddenly you’re, you’re getting those inspirations where suddenly you, you want to try this and you want to try that. And I think for all of us, it’s, it’s so important now to not be in the box because life has shown us. We can’t. And your question, you know, life shook me to the core. It was a 10, you know, but not everyone needs the 10 and it’s, what’s my path. What’s my special path. And, you know, know what do I need to wake up? So I guess it’s really, it’s really the desire. You know, how deep do you wanna go? And when you get struck with a debilitating disease or, um, a death or whatever it is, then of course life forces you. But if that’s not the case, what inspire you? What lights you up? Um, what’s the, what’s the deeper little voice that’s just kind of knock, knock knocking. And does everyone wanna hear that? I don’t know. What do you think?

Guy (00:48:41):
I, I, I think more and more people definitely want to hear it and they’re, they’re starting to ask deeper questions. I mean, that’s, what’s happening here in Australia, uh, 100%. And again, thank you for sharing all that. It’s just wonderful listening to, and I, um, I just wanna share with listeners, that’s how I discovered you. Somebody shared, Hey guy, check this out. Cuz people send me things all the time for guests, for podcasts and all sorts, you know, and back in 2017, when you launched that, um, I, I was sitting there and I watched, I probably watched half of them. At least I came through as they were coming through each day and I was like, wow, this is amazing. So, and I’ve been subscribed to a newsletter ever since. So it’s, it’s been amazing how the power of the internet and these, these moments in time can bring people together, even though they don’t know each other, you know? And I’m always fascinated by that. Even putting the podcast out, like I’ve been doing this podcast, let it in for four years. I think your episode 205. I mean, I just show up weekly and I, and I put them out and I’ve had the pleasure of speaking to all the people you’ve mentioned as well over my time. And it’s, for me, it feels like a privilege to have these conversations every week and to be able to share them and put ’em out there into the world because podcasts helped me along my way before I started podcasting as well. And, and I always wonder, I go, wow, who’s listening on the end of this right now. I dunno where they are in the world. I dunno what their life circumstances, but I know people are listening cuz I can check the statistics on the other end, you know? And so there’s, there’s something magical for me in that as well. Even though I’d love to meet everyone in person at some stage to go, oh yeah, right. Got it. You know, and have that human connection as well. But it is. Yeah. It’s a fascinating time we live in fascinating time. I think

Jeralyn (00:50:34):
It’s, it’s important what you said. Like when I had that woman through the script away, like it’s really important to trust that you bring everything you need. Of course we wanna be prepared. And certainly as a classical musician, everything just had to be prepared to, you know, down to the last. But I have learned that improvisation and just simply showing up and being present and being fully in your core and fully yourself, that’s it. And it’s like, I felt immediately when I saw your face, it’s like, oh, I’ve known him forever. You know, it’s just, it’s this there’s wonder. And there’s surprise and there’s joy. And I think as much as my life had a lot of joy and a lot of fulfillment in it before, this is a whole nother thing. It’s because you’re living right in the actual, you, you can’t plan you. Um, and when you, when you can live like that, miracles and magic happen all the time,

Guy (00:51:37):
Jeralyn, you’re an inspiration you truly are. And I, I just thank you for everything you you’ve shared with us today and I’m aware of the time of the podcast and, and you did mention off air that you would happily play the bowls for a few, few minutes before we ended the show. Would you be happy to do that now? And maybe explain a little bit about what you’re about to play?

Jeralyn (00:51:58):
Sure. So I always ask before a conversation like this, which bowls wanna play. So there’s over 500 bowls here in the studio and um, wow. I, I’m very blessed to have all these loving orchestra members and then I can combine them in, in many different ways. So I’ll just play you this part. So you’ll hear this. Okay. So that’s what I talked about. This is what we would call, um, a chakra set. Okay. So it’s working with root chakra up to the crown, but then these notes Go above the head and then these notes go below the body. So we’re working with the sound, being something that’s deeply grounding centering us, but also accelerating us and opening us to expand the importance is these, these bowls are made of pure quartz. And so quartz is incredibly grounding and quartz is something in its cellular structure. That’s similar to our bones. It’s similar to our cellular structure. So the sound is received very easily and often people will just, you know, they suddenly are focusing on, you know, what’s this beautiful sound. And then suddenly you’re diving into those places where for me it was grief and there were big pockets of that pain that suddenly when I would hear this sound, my mind focused so intensely on the beauty of that, that the grief could start to feel and reveal and then it would dissipate. So there’s all kinds of alchemies the, the pure quartz has then infused with, uh, like for example, that’s rose courts, this has gold in it. And the Marine seed, this has Emerald, um, this is another kind of gold that’s pink. Um, this is a, a stone called super seven. Um, this is Celestite, this was one of the first bowls that I, that I got to connect me with my son. So I put together this set and I would say, it’s, it’s a lot about the heart. It’s a lot about transformation and transmutation with the St. Jermaine St. Jermaine. And there’s some St Jermaine in that and that’s really about transforming whatever it is in each of us that needs to, to shift. And, and, you know, at the beginning I thought, come on. I mean, really this is there’s, this is some Woo woo stuff, right. And you can see my face. I mean, it’s, it’s not been woo woo over here. And that’s, what’s so fun to combine this with the bio energetics of the energy codes and Dr. Sue’s work and really understand what is that science behind the sound. And what does it mean when you hear this? And then I invite you to take a long, deep breath, You know, and how does that feel? So I’ll invite you all to do that, to take a long, deep breath and Deepen your belly. And I invite you to simply tune into, Is there anything up for you right now that you would like to transform And setting a personal intention for yourself, Allowing the sacred intervals and the sound to hold you steady And long, deep breaths And allow your personal intention of what you’re wanting to transform or heal To be very present now And then release and let that go And allow yourself to receive the sacred sounds. We are sound vibrate, Energy Light in human form, Allowing the sound To take us beyond words, Even beyond human touch, Into the place of infinite possibilities, UN, gently rubbing your palms together to generate heat. Just feel that heat, that electric energy in your hands, and then you can gently place them on your heart and your belly, connect that with your breath, ah, sigh, and use your voice. And then gently began to tap your chest, your belly, your hips, your thighs, and stretching. And that was a very many, many session of healing. Sounds

Guy (01:01:15):
Thank you so much, Jeralyn. That was beautiful. And, uh, I, I, I recommend everyone if they were listening to this on audio to jump across to the YouTube channel and, and have a look at the, the, the of bowls and everything that you’re doing and what you have behind you, it’s absolutely stunning. It truly is. And, uh, that’s a beautiful way to finish a podcast, Jeralyn, and thank you so much. And, um, I, I always ask one question, um, before we leave and that is with everything we cover today. Is there anything you’d like to leave about listeners to ponder on

Jeralyn (01:01:56):
The vibrational frequency of love? How does that feel in your own body When you are being loved, feeling loved, expressing love, how does it feel? And then repeat, breathe and repeat. Hmm. And in that is, is joy and healing

Guy (01:02:28):
Beautiful for anyone wanting to learn more about your work journally, what you do, what you, your offerings, um, the link will be in the show notes for always great to say it out loud as well. Where can people go to find out more about you?

Jeralyn (01:02:44):
Crystal cadence is the website with everything about music and trainings and the bowls. If they’re interested in bowls and then sacred science of sound offers different things, uh, we’ve had masterclass series. Um, so you can look@sacredsciencesound.com also. And our YouTube channel crystal cadence YouTube channel has all kinds of free meditations on it. That was another thing. Dylan was very, very insistent upon mom. We gotta build a YouTube channel and there has to be music available for everybody wherever they are in the world. All they need is an internet connection. And so we made, um, two, two hour loops. So you can use those two hour loops to study when you’re cooking, when you’re just relaxing, going to sleep. Uh, there’s two different loops. One is, uh, working with an endocrine system and one is working with the chakra system and there’s all kinds of songs of bowls with music. Um, but that’s a great resource there at the YouTube channel, too.

Guy (01:03:54):
Amazing Jeralyn. And thank you so much for coming on today. I, I loved every minute of our conversation and you just radiate so much joy and peace it, a pleasure to have you on the show and, uh, yeah, just thank you for everything you’re doing and thank you for being here today.

Jeralyn (01:04:11):
Thank you for the invitation and Dito to you. Thank you for following your heart and sharing all these incredible conversations with the world.

Guy (01:04:21):
Thank you.