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Brandon:
At the end of the day, I don’t believe there’s ever been a victim in all of eternity, and that is very challenging to people, and I get it and get why. However, it doesn’t change the fact that I believe we’ve all signed up for everything that we experienced. Because when you’re signing that contract, you’re like, oh, yeah, I’m an eternal, infinite being. I ain’t scared, you know, whatever. Now we forget that here we come. We have amnesia. It’s traumatizing. It’s painful. And the sweet’s never quite as sweet without the sour. And so, you know, what it’s all leading to is for the win, the love to mean something. Otherwise, if that’s all there is, it becomes meaningless.

Guy:
Hey, Guy here. Welcome back to my podcast. My awesome guest today is Brandon Beachum. Brandon was introduced to us by a mutual acquaintance of ours, and I really enjoyed it today. He’s a man after my own heart. He’s an entrepreneur, a spiritual teacher, and really practices what he preaches. And I think that’s what today’s conversation is about, is that we can have all these tools, and lean into and absorb this content, but where does the rubber meet the road? Where are we leaning into the road less traveled, you know, and taking those courageous acts from the heart and soul, as opposed to just from the mind, and whether they’re fear-based choices or love-based choices. And so much of the unconscious self is driving our life. And as we start to take command of it, we can really start to move the needle in our own life and feel our realities and life starts to show up for us in more meaningful ways or to teach us many things and that’s what we get into today and not only about how his own journey and how he’s implemented in his life but some deep topics too you know and he says some controversial things along the fact that There is no victim in all of eternity. And he unpacks that, why he feels that is, and why from a soul’s perspective, not just a head’s perspective. So look, I’ll be fascinated to hear what you think about this conversation. Please let me know in the comments below. And yeah, enjoy the show. Of course, we are running more events and more retreats throughout the year. If you want to come and join us in one of them, whether it be a one-day mini retreat or the five-day experiences in Bali, Croatia, or Northern New South Wales and Australia, Check out the links below. It’s all there, coming up in 2024. Anyway, much love from me. Enjoy this, and I’ll see you soon. Beautiful. Brandon, welcome to the podcast.

Brandon:
Hey, thanks for having me, Guy.

Guy:
You’re very welcome. I know you’ve been to Australia, you said about seven years ago, kind of near my local hood, but I am always curious if you are traveling and you sit next to a stranger and they ask you what you do for a living, how would you respond?

Brandon:
Funny that’s like it’s very similar to on my podcast positive head i always ask my cliche opener you’re in an elevator the woman next year looks ever says what’s your passion what do you say it’s very similar. And was yours yours wasn’t passion that you said. what you do for a living?

Guy:
Yeah, it’s a very common question when you when you meet someone, obviously.

Brandon:
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I would say my answer to that person would be I do a few things. I’m a serial entrepreneur my whole life. And, you know, and then I’d probably start rattling off I have, I run a co living in event space and Los Angeles called the Mystic Manor with my partner and have a travel company called Hello Vacay. And I do a podcast for almost 10 years called Positive Head. And, you know, so those would probably be the things that would come to mind when immediately when someone asked me, you know, I wrote a book within the last couple of years. So a little bit of this, a little bit of that.

Guy:
Yeah, yeah, amazing. You certainly keep yourself busy. So I just flip it slightly then. So what would be a through line passion with all of that? What lights you up?

Brandon:
Yeah, talking about consciousness and the ultimate nature of reality, teaching best what I most need to learn. I like to refer to it, you know, because, you know, that’s really for for for all of us when we’re really lit up about something and sharing something, it’s because we’re sharing it with ourselves first and foremost, I think. And so, yeah, I think I’ve gotten the most joy and passion in life in helping to make an impact on other people’s lives.

Guy:
Incredible. And I’m keen to dive into your own journey in a moment as well, because, you know, obviously we’re kind of in a bubble, like the fact that you’re, like when you said consciousness, that’s what lights you up, that’s why you’re on the podcast, you know, I love these conversations myself and things like that. Yeah. How would, before we get into why that lights you up, how would you define consciousness?

Brandon:
Great question. You went right for it, didn’t you? Why not? So how would I define consciousness? I think consciousness is synonymous with intelligent awareness. I think, you know, I’ve never really answered the question like, you know, or had that question. What is consciousness? And that’s really what we’re trying to understand. Who, who, what, when, where did it come from? What are we? You know, but at the end of the day, I think that’s what comes to mind for me is an intelligent awareness. and exploring the threads that I believe, of course, the consciousness that animates my form is the consciousness that animates your form. The separation between us is illusory in nature. And exploring what the implications of that are and how to sort of navigate with the truth of that reality, what that looks like for me is very exciting.

Guy:
Yeah, beautiful. It is challenging. I’m curious to know how you formed that belief system within you, because I feel like when you think about 3D reality and the physicality of it all, and the nature and the density of everything, it can feel very real, very separate, very fear-driven, very like, oh, shitballs is life, why is it so fucking hard all the time? And you know, on it goes, and then we can come to the complete opposite of that, that we’re all one, we’re all unity, we all come from the same source. Yeah. So for you, how did you start to come to that conclusion yourself?

Brandon:
Yeah, well, you know. Where it really makes a lot of sense to me, all the hardship that you’re referencing, you know, one of my favorite quotes I say very regularly on my show is smooth seas never made for a skilled sailor. And we all came to be skilled sailors. Right. And so once you start understanding that contrast is necessary in order for, you know, if consciousness is also synonymous with love, you know, I think at the end of the day, all the puzzle pieces go back in the box. You trace it back to the root of the root of the root. You know, what is source God, the universe, higher self, consciousness, love. Well, if that’s the beating heart of it, in order for that to mean anything, if all is one and all is love, that essentially means it becomes meaningless because there’s no other and there’s nothing other than love. So now you bring in hate. You bring in other you bring in something to measure it against and it gives it some. Meaning and so when you when you play with the idea that ultimately what we all are is untouchable unfaithful this is an illusion a dream that. consciousness once created in order to know itself more fully. And at the end of the day, you can pretend to be hurt. You can. But but, you know, you’re let off the hook in the end. You’re you’re eternal and, you know, indestructible. And so once you start, you know, if that indeed is the is the nature of the situation in which we find ourselves as humans, and it’s like, OK, now let’s I want to really appreciate love. You know, I think of Well, my brother is actually calling me here on my muted cell phone and I can, uh, it makes me think of a story. You know, he was, um, years ago. Um, he didn’t pay a ticket something, you know, when he early twenties, he didn’t pay his ticket. It went years. It turned into a warrant for his arrest. He had no idea he had a warrant for his arrest. This, you know, ticket, it was out drinking alcohol on a beach, which, you know, he probably thought, no, no big deal. Well, if you don’t take care of that, you know, kid, that’s going to come back and get you. So it gets pulled over years later. They’re like, oh, you have a warrant for your arrest. They throw him in jail for like four days or five days. And he’s one of the most sensitive people I know. And if not the most sensitive. So here he is in jail. I mean, he’s traumatized by the experience, the energy, the, you know, he gets out at, you know, here in the States, they’ll let you out at 1201 just after midnight so that they can charge for another day, you know, charge the state for another day for you being in. And I pick him up, you know, 1230, bring him home. I cook him, I don’t know if in Australia you have hot pockets, but these really crappy little microwave, you know, unhealthy processed food, right? So one in the morning, 1.30, I get him home. He’s like traumatized after being in jail for days. I cook him this hot pocket, really just like kind of garbage food. To this day if you ask him what was the best meal he ever had you know it’ll tell you that hot pocket why because of the contrast of the experience you just had. Right prison print in jail you know jail food. bad dudes looking at him funny, wanting to, you know, engage in fighting him and weird stuff, you know, and he was so appreciative of this meal that it’s, you know, and he’s had some really good meals over the years and that that’s his best. And so I think that really kind of helps to sum up what’s going on here. It’s so easy for us to get caught up in the pain and suffering and negativity of, you know, life. And I believe it takes a sting out a little bit when you apply the perspective and this is happening by divine design. At the end of the day, I don’t believe there’s ever been a victim in all of eternity and that is very challenging to people and I get it and get why. However, it doesn’t change the fact that I believe we’ve all signed up for everything that we experience. Because when you’re signing that contract, you’re like, oh, yeah, I’m an eternal, infinite being. I ain’t scared, you know, whatever. Now we forget that. Here we come. We have amnesia. It’s traumatizing. It’s painful. And the sweet’s never quite as sweet without the sour. And so, you know, what it’s all leading to is for the win, the love to mean something. Otherwise, if that’s all there is, it becomes meaningless.

Guy:
Yeah. Hence the skilled sailor. And as we go through the challenges. That’s right. And you become more through it. And I guess you have to have the amnesia. Otherwise you’ll be kicking around all day just going.

Brandon:
Yeah, right. I’m not buying it. I’m not, you know, this Brandon Beecham thing, this guy Lawrence thing, like, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, whatever. You’re not, I’m not convinced, you know, I’m not. So yeah, I think it’s a necessary component. It’s part of the recipe, the formula in order for the impact to, you know, the outcome that we’re desiring to transpire There’s some level of that and it’s interesting because then you have people who they get to a certain point in the evolution of their journey and i know people who have vivid memories of past life experiences or i have friends that. I’ve had experiences by locating you know i have a girlfriend of mine who she will she claims that when she goes to bed at night a lot of time show show live years decades in another lifetime. And then wake up in the morning and she’s back or in her waking consciousness like i always share the story she said one time she was sitting at a piano. And it triggered her into another lifetime and like the eighteen hundreds or something and she was she said the way she described it she’s by located she’s in both. Lifetime simultaneously here and there and there she said she was very. depressed and sad and crying because her lover had left her or her husband or something, you know, something happened. And she’s playing the piano, weeping, you know, sad. And in this life, as she’s having that dual experience of both, she’s sitting at a piano, which triggers it. And she starts playing the same tune, even though she doesn’t know how to play piano in this life. She’s just sitting at one. So, you know, really interesting things and stories. I mean, I hear a lot of interesting stories and accounts. And of course, I’ve had some pretty wild things myself. I know you’ve mentioned you’ve had a Kundalini awakening, like, and I know that probably was not for the faint of heart.

Guy:
No, it wasn’t. No, it’s fascinating. For me, it’s one of the joys of podcasting because you get to, I think you’ll be over episode 300, I think, by the time this goes out, right? And I know you’ve done like thousands, I’m thinking over 10 years, but you get to know, speak, and interest. And when you facilitate as well, you see things firsthand. I always like Tom Campbell. I don’t know if you’re familiar with him, Tom Campbell.

Brandon:
I feel like the name sounds familiar.

Guy:
He’s got a strong following on YouTube. He’s an ex-NASA physicist, and he actually studied under Bob Monroe in the Monroe Institute. And he would talk about streams of consciousness like being information. And it was always fascinating to me, because I remember reading in one of Bob Monroe’s books that he was able to leave his body and then enter another body on another planet. Wow. And actually experience it from that. And so, you know, when you start to hear that, you’re like, come on. But once you start leaning into these experiences, like you say, possibility is endless.

Brandon:
We’re looking at some of these people and say, OK, well, what’s your life like now? Oh, you’re really well adjusted. You’re really loving. You’ve done a lot of self-work. You’re highly intelligent. You’re you know, it’s like her place. She’s a brilliant artist and very talented. She’s not looking for attention, really. I have to pull the stories out of her. And actually her, some of her other, you know, when she goes to sleep at night, other lifetimes will be in a completely alien body. Like, you know, like something totally different than humanoid.

Guy:
Yeah. I’m keen to get on to what’s happening on the planet now, but before we get into any of this stuff, I want to know a bit about your journey. Was there a defining moment? Have you always been intelligently aware that there’s something more, or have you had to have a few knocks by the universe?

Brandon:
Yeah, you know, there’s been, yeah, I think because it’s my dharmic path, you know, there’s some things set up along the way to help, you know, kind of lead me to where I am now. But I started, I mean, I began my journey in a very conservative Christian household. Uh, my, my dad, you know, I went to church my whole life growing up and then at 11 or so, my dad became very spiritual. And so it turned into, you know, overdrive. We would go to church three times a week and very conservative Christian kind of Southern United States conservative. And, um, you know, it never quite sunk in with me as I got older and started quite, you know, it was always a little bit of a go to the beat of my own drum. do things my way, question things. And I went to a Christian college at the behest of my parents and ended up getting kicked out for being, you know, a bad kid, quote unquote normal. And, you know, then I met someone soon after that who claimed to have some psychic ability. And I was very intrigued. I’d never come across this, you know. And then I saw her demonstrate some things that Seem to like support her claim right and now i’m really intrigued so then i start reading books you know okay let me let me look into this some more i start one of the first things i read speaking about monroe and those sorts of things i started reading about out of body experiences. And then i went and started sharing with my brother i was just talking about and he’s like dude what are you smoking you can’t leave your body you know and i’m like well i can’t say i’ve done it but a lot of people are claiming that you know in this particular book the guy says there’s two ways to do it. He says you can you can do it through a meditation and these certain techniques or perhaps easier is if you can become lucid in the dream state, awaken your dream and then say, oh, actually, I’m laying in bed right now and the real me is in bed. And this is a dream. And therefore, I want to leave my body. He’s like, you’ll pop right out and then you can go explore the astral realm. And he said, well, my brother was like, I think you’re crazy, but i know what you’re talking about with this lucid dreaming thing because i did that as a kid i used to become awake in my dream and then i could affect the dream and all that so that at least that rang true to him you know from personal experience so he went from kind of making fun of me one day Uh to the next day seeing being like oh my god I because we talked about it for you know I lucid dreamed for the first time since I was a little kid and then I remembered what you said say I want to leave my body and I will and I did and next thing I know I’m standing there looking at my body and it’s in the bed and I’m like made of energy. I wave my hand in front of my face and and, you know, it freaked him out. I mean, he is never the first guy in line for the roller coaster. And so then it started happening to him, you know, sporadically some here and there. I’d get calls every now and then over the years, like, oh, my God, I was just viewing this other civilization. And like, you know, they get scared and run back to his body. And so that was sort of, you know. And then from there, I started having a lot of like cool confirmations. I have some really powerful synchronicity stories, spiritual breadcrumb stories, winks from the universe kind of thing that have happened to me over the years. And those just kind of started increasing in amplitude and frequency. And I can only think because it was my dharmic path that as I started to read a lot of this stuff, it’s like, of course, all is one. Of course, it’s structured this way. This makes so much sense. And just never went back, never looked back.

Guy:
Yeah, right. And because, you know, you talk a lot about your entrepreneurship and different companies and different things you’re doing. And, you know, you’re clearly doing good out there and placing all those skill sets into serving humanity as well. Were you then using, I guess, your spiritual path to help you lean into the entrepreneurship or were they kind of working in tandem? Yeah. Many people daydream about living their life more on purpose and stepping into what they really want to be doing and that, but they freeze and they’ll stick with what they know, right? Yeah. Right.

Brandon:
Yeah. I’ve always, I’ve always, I guess you could say I’ve never been risk adverse, really. And so I always, you know, when I first started having my own spiritual awakening, you’ll appreciate this. I I was like, oh, my gosh, I’m one with the source consciousness that creates and animates all things. OK, if if it’s all me, it’s all extension of me and I can do and be anything. What would I what would I be? What would I pluck from the toolbox? And I thought, well, I would make music. I never made music. I was very passionate about music. So I started a band called Kundalini. And so then Kundalini, we formed in Nashville, Tennessee, where I went to college and then moved to Southern California, met someone from California. You know, speaking of psychics, I had an I went to a psychic around that time. She goes, Oh, you you’ve got this path in music. You know, you have this path that you’re going to in working in Chicago in business. And my jaw hit the floor because I was planning to move to Chicago and work for my uncle in business at the time in college. But there’s this whole other path in California and music and, you know. Thanks to spiritual awakening and some psilocybin mushrooms, a year or so later, I formed a band and Kundalini all came out to Southern California, and that was 25 years or so ago now.

Guy:
Yeah. And then you just went from there to starting to create what you’re doing.

Brandon:
Yeah. And then it was like, yeah, different entrepreneurial things, worked for different people over the years and here and there, but mostly, you know, OK, I want to manifest the abundance to create a lot of good in the world. Money is just energy. And, you know, I’ve had a lot of ups and downs with that journey. of, you know, everything from, you know, living on my friend’s couch to launching a fast growing private company in the United States, you know, with 100 plus employees to getting offered to be bought out for tens of millions of dollars to losing it all within 12 hours of a big offer coming over. I mean, a lot of like a movie script, you know, stories of betrayal and loss and wins and, you know, all the ups and downs that my soul wanted to experience.

Guy:
Wow. What do you think are the key lessons from all of that? To go on that roller coaster and to actually experience some of the wealth or the opportunities or wealth and not having it all to, you know, doing what you’re doing now or whatever. There must be some really valuable insights.

Brandon:
Yeah, yeah. Well, and I share all those insights, actually. And I wrote a book a couple of years ago during during COVID called The Golden Key, Modern Alchemy to Unlock Infinite Abundance. And happy actually to gift it to the listeners. If you go to goldenkey.gift.gift and use the code love at checkout, you can get the audio and or ebook. Yeah for free and so the idea with the book was like okay i love to talk about this stuff and over twenty five years of deep exploration of the ultimate nature of reality i wanna create something concise so you know the book is about a hundred pages are three hours to listen to an audio you know and so let me just still down my. in this case, eight keys that I came up with that from my personal experience that I’ve seen to living and alchemizing, you know, a life that is fulfilling and really tapping into the abundance that is our birthright, you know, the sort of the quintessence of our being, the essence of the essence is we are the power that created it all. We built this place, I believe. And so it’s the only issue is it’s kind of like we a lot of us have turned off the tap right by design so that you can experience it meaning something when it’s back on again so the question really becomes like have you had enough of you know uh of lack and limitation and you know have you gotten the medicine from that very useful part of it all great then you can you know that’s a question that’s already always being posed to us i believe what part of it all do you want to experience next And then learning how to do the dance between. Manifesting and creating it myself and calling it in along with you i believe it’s sort of like a hodgepodge of manifestation i believe you have your. Sort of soul contracts that you signed you know there’s probably a lot of versions of brandon from this moment forward. but probably not very many where I go on to be the center of the Los Angeles Lakers basketball team. Right. You know, and so it’s there’s a certain trajectory of a soul or an avatar or a particular human, I believe. So you take in, OK, what is sort of some of the built ins with this human? What are some of the karmic balances built in? What are what they do have control over, you know, focusing their mind and energy in the right places. And you put all those into a stew and you get some sort of outcome. Right. So I think it’s a little more nuanced how what you experience is created.

Guy:
How do we get to those nuances within us, though? I feel very fortunate in some respects. I went through a deep spell of loneliness and feeling disconnected from the world. It was a big lesson for me, and it really allowed me to start to dive inward more and start to explore myself, because I’d explored all options externally, which wasn’t working for me. But then there was these aspects from doing that, there was a knowing that started to come through and a trust. So then it gave me the courage to take the steps, but it felt congruent with my heart. It wasn’t just, I’m just creating abundance for the sake of it or whatever. What have you found with yourself, those nuances? What would help people to start to ponder on? Because quite often you’ll hear people speak about financial difficulties or i don’t have enough money i’m never going to be able to do that and that’s a belief system that just yeah it’s a story.

Brandon:
Yeah i think that’s the most important thing that we can do is start analyzing. You know these the stories that we tell that’s the most important thing is like you know henry ford said it really well you know whether you think you can or think you can’t you’re right. You are such a powerful creator that you know abracadabra translates to i create as i speak. Right. Your words are your wands. You are spelling. You are casting a spell. Right. And so it becomes very important to take a look at what story am I telling? And it’s you know, I can tell a very grandiose, open minded, super positive story about one thing. And then as my partner might point out, sometimes she’s like, you know, hey, Brandon, your story there is that you tell about this particular thing is really limited. and really doesn’t align with the rest of who and what you are and how you approach things and it’s like oh oh let me wow that really has become an unconscious narrative it hasn’t it so really looking at these a lot of these things have been programmed we’re like software right we’re we’ve been programmed with certain stories so if you can become aware of conclusions that you’ve come to right and um. I had a guest recently on the podcast where he brought this up and it was a great way to say you know to talk about looking at conclusions you come to and um. Oh, I’ve got a conclusion that this plus this equals my circumstance equals hard, whatever, like this is how it goes for someone like me. This is what happens to Australians, whatever the story is and trace back like, oh, that’s a story that you told. And, you know, like a really successful business partner I had years ago used to always say, no, no, I understand we can’t do it, but what would it look like if we could? You know, so now you go from. Conclusion which by the way, let’s look at quantum physics, right? We you know, we’re made of Light this, you know you zoom in on us and what is happening? It’s you have you have basically, uh, you know particles that go into a fixed position when consciousness observes it and in a state of quantum superposition when it’s Possibility when when it’s not so what if we went to your old conclusions and we superposition it? Right? Ah, I understand this is your story and this is the way it is and it works and reality has actually reinforced that and therefore it’s even more true because you’ve created and continue to see it and this feedback loop of you reflecting you back to you. But what would it look like if it were different? What could be? Let’s just get imaginative here for a minute. And now all of a sudden you go from a fixed fix spot where it’s now you put it into a state of possibility you put in a state of quantum superposition in a sense right so i think that’s really important for people to do is to become more aware of the stories and conclusions that they’ve told and they’ve they’ve subscribed to and and then start questioning those with a state of curiosity And curiosity is love, right? And bring love to it. Oh, yeah, no, I could see why I came to that conclusion and how it’s been reinforced over the years. I wonder what it would be like if it were something different. And once you ask a question, now it goes from, once you decide, OK, we’re getting married, all the other options go away. Once you say, well, maybe I’m going to play the field, just to use this as an example, Options open up, right? So what if you’re going to play the field and stop being married to the conclusions that you outgrew a long time ago? You outgrew that relationship and you can thank it and appreciate that it kept you in lack and limitation. Great thank you for that you know i don’t need to hate or beat myself up for it yeah you know that you know that was a part of the journey you didn’t dance you don’t dance to get to a certain spot on the dance floor it’s the whole experience you don’t listen to a song to hear the final note your your life is that Okay, now we can start looking at a new relationship with a story. And I think that’s key. It’s key to really start unwinding some of this unconscious programming.

Guy:
Yeah, it’s a beautiful analogy. I love it. So just riffing off this for a moment then, because I imagine that expansive, that awareness, all this possibility when you’re not sort of just fixated on this is the only way it could be, right? And bringing that intent in, how do we then, or how do you, in your personal journey, start to marinate and maintain that possibility? as it comes to you, as opposed to going back into the old stories, the old paradigms?

Brandon:
Great question. Great question. Big one, huh? Yeah, it’s a big one. And, you know, What happens, of course, as you’re probably aware, as we start thinking in different ways, you know, if you listen to episode one of the Positive Head podcast from 2015, now we’re, as you mentioned, on episode 2300 or something, I said, guys, I’m doing this first and foremost for myself, because by talking, why am I here in the middle of my day talking to you guy about this stuff? Because it’s, We’re literally going into a vibrational pool together to elevate our vibration. Anyone tuning in is being impacted by our conversation because it’s it has a certain frequency and vibration that which is like itself is drawn that which is likened to itself is drawn. So like if I have a guitar and you have a guitar and I play it here all the way across the world through the microphone and you’re holding the guitar, the same string will start vibrating. right? Because it’s in, it’s in resonance. So one of the things to do, the most powerful things we can do is realizing like, ah, those old stories have neural pathways in the brain. They’re like well-worn paths that familiar territory. All of a sudden you start thinking something different. It’s creating new connections and new pathways that need to be well trodden in order to create more comfort and familiarity. And then next thing you know, it becomes, this is my default. to always say, oh, hold on, I’m holding on to something that is limiting in its possibility. Let me let go of my grip on that. Let me open up to possibility. Let me play. One of the only Bible verses I ever quote, lest you become like a child, you can’t enter the kingdom of heaven. How do I become more childlike? What do children do? They play, they imagine, they’re using this superpower to create worlds with a cardboard box and a, you know, in a pen, it’s a sword. And, you know, I mean, they’re literally and they’re having the time of their lives and the experience to go along with it. And so that’s really what we’re being invited to do. Step back into our childlike wonder and possibility and and do things like listening to guys podcast or reading a book that is literally shifting your vibration the same way as if you pluck that guitar string. You’re swimming in a certain pool. So become aware of how frequently you’re swimming in that pool, what pool you’re in.

Guy:
And another one that I know people are fearful of is then their lives around them changing. Maybe their friends or people, relationships. It’s like, well, their whole, you know, that vibration might not match anymore if they’re wanting to elevate.

Brandon:
Yeah i love your comment that even on your own personal journey and yeah it’s a very valid concern we get very attached as humans to unite relate romantic relationship is the best example of this are human gets attached right and i believe. You know and there’s a big misconception i think out there that a relationship has to last forever in order to be successful. And i don’t believe that i believe you come together for the opportunity for growth when that opportunity has fully realized itself a natural separation occurs. And then are human which gets very habitual and comfortable and. doesn’t like change and, you know, has fear, doesn’t understand. You can’t like you are literally God experiencing itself. And at the end of the day, self-love is the number one thing to learn because you’re a fractal of source. Right. And what is source alone? It is literally a story of self-love. So for all of us, the number one thing we have in common in our very path is we’re all here to get better at self-love because At the end of the day, it’s just you. He, you know, I saw a meme the other day. It’s like realizing it was like a philosophical like statue or something. And it was crying. It was like realizing I’m the only one. And then the other side of it was realizing I’m the only one with, you know, it’s arms wide open. What perspective are you seeing with that? And so, you know, at the end of the day, you can’t the only thing in eternity guaranteed is change. The good news is, is whatever you fear to lose or are going to fall off because it’s no longer a vibrational match. Whatever that is, is can always come back around and will come back around in a more evolved form. That’s a reflection of your because it’s always everywhere you go, you’re there waiting for yourself. It’s always going to be you reflecting you back to you in some way, shape or form because it’s all an extension of self. The one and so you just need to get comfortable with this truth because this is the the the you know Situation which we all find ourselves in eternity, you know chugging trunk, but said it Well, I guess the bad news is you’re falling through space nothing, you know, nothing below you nothing to hold on to the good news is there’s no ground and And that’s really what is happening you’re falling nothing to hold on to the good news there’s no ground no parachute good news no ground and you know it’s really powerful and get. You need to find your comfort level with this cuz this is the nature of the situation in which you will be forever.

Guy:
Ain’t that the truth? It’s funny, it really took me back because, dear friend, she’s passed now, but at the time she was there not long after when I had the awakening, and she was very spiritual, and she said, Guy, it’s okay, mate. You’re just skydiving, but you’ll never hit the ground. They were her words to me. Oh, wow. Just learn to enjoy it.

Brandon:
Wow. Yeah, there it is again, right? Beautiful.

Guy:
And I was like, wow, it’s easier said than done.

Brandon:
Well, yeah, that’s right. It’s one thing to know this stuff theoretically. And what we came here to do is really live it, really experience it. What we are is not for the faint of heart. And this is what we came to do. This is what we’re doing. This is what we’re always doing. And, you know, what you’ve made it, made it through up to this point in hearing these words, literally eternity is behind you that you don’t recall, you know, and yet here you are, you made it right. And you’ll always make it and you can’t not make it because you are it.

Guy:
Yeah. How do you deal with the free, the free falling, the surrender, the letting go of the expectations and

Brandon:
very carefully, the best of my ability. Um, you know, I get, I get, um, I get better and better at it, I suppose. Um, and it’s just like anything, our nervous system gets acclimated when we’re growing, you know, the first time you, you get in front of hundreds of people every month, right? You said the, think of where you’re at now. You’ve been doing that for quite some time. I assumed from our combo. Yeah. Think back to the first time you did it. Your nervous system was probably a hot mess, just like, you know, you’re literally stretching a growth edge. And it’s it’s so nerve wracking and challenging. Then you do it again. Then you do it again. Then you do it again. And you’re next thing you know, you get your nervous system gets acclimated because you’ve you’ve stretched it. And now you’ve caught up. You know, it’s like the The weird you know fourteen year old who over you know six months ago six inches and it’s like what is this you know the puppy tripping over its paws it eventually catches up with that growth and starts to get familiar with it and that’s really what we’re doing in in in. the growth never ends. So you’re going to make it to plateaus of like, oh, I’m here. And then eternity erupts in a vista before you that never, you know, the next plateau as you ascend into the next greatest and grandest version of self. And so this is the dance, you know, and, you know, I get better at it the same way everyone does time and practice. And then, you know, and it’s easy, you know, to get hard on ourselves. And I think that’s one of the most key things that holds us back is if we beating ourselves up about, you know, our progress and really part of the dance. It’s a spiral, right? We circle back on things we think we’ve already outgrown and work through for deeper. We’re like an onion, deeper levels of release around it. It’s like this two step forward, one step back, you know, shimmy that you and i think understanding that is helpful.

Guy:
Yeah absolutely what would that in mind as well and you know when to twenty twenty four now it’s gone for long and there’s a lot of noise as well going on at the moment on the internet and different things i don’t watch media so i don’t really pay much attention but. Do you feel like we’re actually going through a shift in humanity right now? You’ve got elections this year. There’s all sorts of predictions starting to happen. It’s going to get noisier. There’s going to be more mudslinging, more fear, more division. How do you see it all playing out?

Brandon:
You know, here’s how I kind of think of it. It really helps me, you know, because it can be easy to get lost in, oh, my gosh, who I’m one of eight billion people on this planet. And, you know, what difference can I make? And it’s so much bigger than me. And, you know, how few people are even awake or aware out there, relatively speaking, it’s like all can look lost. And You know the way i think of it is if i am i believe in a talk about this you know my book i’m the lead actor director star in my own private. Why are you universe. You know, God source higher self is so vast. I have my own universe and you’re a prop in my movie. And so is the world at large and everyone out there listening. You know, I am the star here and vice versa. I’m a prop in your movie created in this image to sound like this, to look like this, but it’s really just you reflecting you back to you in some way, shape or form. And so, of course I make it. Of course, I’m the only one here. It’s like, I’m the star of this show. And we all are, from this perspective. And it’s like, So you think if you want to change the world change yourself because the world is showing up as a reflection of you in some way shape or form. So understanding it you know that by doing the work on myself literally in the shower talks about this so i don’t mean daryl uncle who i don’t my show recently you know that we’re shifting in and out of different timelines constantly just like a movie. You know picture that’s flickering so fast the lights flickering so fast it appears solid but it’s really just flickers happening that’s what your items are doing the particles that make you up there you know there there. Vibrations not solid at all there ninety nine point nine nine nine nine percent space and what we call solid air flickers this flickering. In and out of existence popping in and out we don’t know where it comes from where it goes to but it’s intelligent when it shows up here that’s what you’re in you’re in a movie right and. You get to shift and decide what version of it you step into based off of where you’re resonating, because the only thing you really have power over is your perspective and your inner world and your inner dialogue. And as within, so without. So when you start talking about the world, there there is no out there out there. It’s a reflection of my internal state. So the more I work on myself, the more I’m going to like the things happening and transpiring out there. And by the way, if some if I’m doing great work on myself and something awful happens out there, Who am I to judge good or bad? Like, you know, it’s like, do I really know the, you know, what, what, what, you know, one of my favorite stories that ties this, have you, have you heard the story of the Taoist farmer?

Guy:
Oh, please share it anyway.

Brandon:
Yeah, yeah. It’s a great one. So, you know, the Dallas farmer who has this sort of perspective and this ancient philosophy that sort of believes in the way we’ve been talking on this show and the philosophies and ideas. And, you know, someone came up to him or I’m sorry, he’s a farmer. And one day his horse, he has one horse that helps him to till his field and it ran off. And he was, uh, his neighbors witnessed this who are thinking very, you know, I always say we’re playing checkers and our higher self is playing chess. So the neighbors thinking very, you know, one dimensionally come over and say, oh my gosh, we see your horse ran away. You’re screwed without that horse. You’re an old man. You need that horse to tell your fields you’re done. The Dallas farmer having a broader view, well, maybe so. I trust the mystery. I trust, you know, who knows, we’ll see. Next day, the horse comes back and a wild horse followed it back. So now, oh, apparently fortunes have changed. She went from having one horse to no horse to two horses. Now he’s got double the horsepower. The neighbor’s witnesses come over and say, oh my gosh, we thought you were screwed, but now we realized you’re blessed. You just doubled your workers. What does a Dallas farmer say? Maybe so. Who knows? We’ll see what’s good or bad, right? The next day, his son, his only human helper, tried to tame the wild horse, gets on, gets thrown, breaks his leg. Neighbors witness this, come over and say, oh my gosh, we thought you were screwed. Then we thought you’re blessed. Now we know you’re screwed because without your son to help you, your one human helper, you’re certainly finished. Dallas Farmer says, maybe so. Next day, the military comes around looking to gather up all the young men to take them off to be in the front lines of the latest war, surely to die. They come to scoop up the Dallas Farmer’s son who’s laid up with a broken leg in bed and he’s no good to them. So they leave him and pass him by. He survives. The neighbors come over, say, oh my gosh, now we see you’re so blessed. What is the dallas farmer say maybe so so when you’re judging these ideas are good or bad you know just when the butterfly thinks it’s world is come to an end i mean the i’m sorry the caterpillar thinks it’s world is come to an end it becomes a butterfly right so a lot of times old things have to dissolve and break in order for something more to new to be born and so for judging something from this very. You know myopic narrow lens we’re not understanding a greater picture and if you can move into a state of. You know as one of my keys in the book in my book is trust the mystery i don’t understand it but i trust it. Now you start navigating from a place of like you know. Just keep being held being held in the mystery and it is a powerful place to be.

Guy:
Totally, yeah. I think as well, there’s a fine line, for me on my journey anyway, of avoiding avoidance and then using the work as a way to escape of not facing things to then actually, no, no, actually sitting with it and being a representation of what you want to see in the world.

Brandon:
All I can do for you is work on myself. All you can do for me is work on yourself. You know, as Ram Dass said, it’s like, so how can I be the thing that I want, be the change, be the example, live it, you know, change the vibration. And that’s how we’re going to change the world. That’s how. And when you think in terms of shifting and timelines all the time, I talk about this in the book too. You know, I believe our life plays out at the corner of free will and destiny. It’s destined because time is an illusion and it’s all already happened. And I think that’s how you get into psychic ability and things like that. However, if a psychic ever tells me or intuitive ever tells me this is definitely happening, I run the other way because I believe there’s many timelines, just like the woman who said, do I see you in a cold place like Chicago in business? I was planning to work in Chicago in business with my uncle, you know, that that floored me. Oh, there’s this whole other timeline in California and music. So based off of the choices I made, this is the version that I experienced this time. And so you start understanding like, oh, there’s all these timeline from this moment forward, I could be saying, guy, the world is finished, doom and gloom, it’s all awful. And you could say, no, Brandon, I believe we’re coming, you know, we’re birthing into a new enlightened era. And 10 years from now, I’m the person sitting here is in a timeline, Where it’s doom and gloom and awful and you’re sitting in the utopian version, right? Because of, and by the way, there may be another version of guy there who wasn’t so positive and vice versa, you know? So that’s how I view it and how personal the universe and your experience is. And even if it doesn’t show up the way my limited little human mind can imagine is quote unquote best, if there were such a thing. I know better. I know enough to know I don’t know much and that I trust the mystery of what will unfold and happening ultimately for love.

Guy:
Yeah, beautiful, Brandon. And the one thing I want to highlight as well is that you’re actually doing something as well. You’re out there. Creating positive change as well, which is which is I call it the good kind of selfish.

Brandon:
It’s a good time cuz cuz what i do for any other person anyone who benefits from this show is is literally an extension of me and by helping them i helped myself whatever if you wanna know how you know how to get ahead in life. You know, if you want to find yourself, lose yourself in the service of others is what Gandhi said. And the reason I believe that holds true is because there are no others. So it is in giving that we receive. People out there, I don’t know my path. I don’t know what it is. Wait for it. Be open. And I can tell you this, I can definitely tip you off in this way. It’s going to involve service in some way, shape or form, because it’s the only way to receive is in giving to the other extensions of self.

Guy:
No exactly and there’s a different mindset me like it’s not hard to be kind so that’s being service if you’re simply just present with one that’s right.

Brandon:
Holding space is a powerful thing.

Guy:
Exactly doesn’t need to be this grand deal so i got to set up my business and do all these things.

Brandon:
Who is more important gandhi or gandhi’s grandmother who raised him and made him help make him who you know to use that example right more important to the world. You know yeah cuz he wouldn’t have been without that nurturing.

Guy:
Exactly. Yeah, I love that. And I heard that one before. I got one last question for you, mate, before we wrap things up. And that is, everything we’ve covered today has been a lot. But what would you love the listeners to ponder on?

Brandon:
Yeah, I love that question. you know it’s so easy in today’s world yes you know we talked to quite a bit about the state of the world and in this social media era of comparison and followers and likes and you’re a podcaster too how many downloads do you have and there you know how does it compare you know all that numbers never end right comparison never ends i i would i would encourage you next time you see someone that you You admire you hear something here that you admire the person on social media wow they’re beautiful what they’re doing. Add up all the infinite things vying for your precious attention and energy you’re tuned into this podcast because you’re such a close vibrational match to. Me and guy and we’re like one specific family everyone who ever hears this episode right configuration of source and so anything that shows up in your field that you like instead of creating comparison i say. Wow, I’m such a close vibrational match, just like striking that guitar chord, that that out of all the things I could be seeing, hearing, receiving, feeling is what’s in front of me. I must be getting closer. Wow. You know, so the difference between comparison and that is an extension of me that’s getting closer and closer and closer and just tying that truth and realization and perspective shift into the core truth that anything that you want, desire, believe, would like to manifest in your dream, this life, understand there has never been a soul more worthy in all of eternity than you. Because there hasn’t ever been another soul. It’s all an extension of you. So if anyone is worthy, you are worthy. And if you haven’t thought that or felt that fully until now, or you’re just starting to, congratulations on all the hardship that led you up to the point of re-dash-membering, coming back together with the truth of who and what you are. And because without the contrast, it would never the sweet is never quite as sweet without the sour. And if you’re hearing these words and you’re feeling this last share on this podcast, it’s because you’re ready to step more fully into that next greatest and grandest version of yourself. And congratulations on all the hardship. You are bold and brave enough to sign up for as a soul to get you here so it can actually mean something. You you are and you are worthy and so eternally loved.

Guy:
Beautiful. Thank you, my man. Thank you. Can you say it out loud one more time where they could grab you? Oh, yeah, sure.

Brandon:
Yeah, yeah, yeah. goldenkey.gift.gift. And if you use the code LOVE, L-O-V-E, for the audio and or ebook, Love to share that with you. And of course, you can find my podcast, Positive Head, and I believe we had a little hitch where we were going to record recently. And so you’ll be able to catch Guy in the future on Positive Head as well.

Guy:
Yeah. Beautiful, mate. I’ll make sure the link’s in the show notes as well. And thank you for all that you’re doing. And it’s great to finally connect.

Brandon:
Yeah. Yeah. This conversation. Likewise. I look forward to next time. Thanks, Brandon. Bye for now.