#267 In this episode, Guy interviewed David Hulse about energetics and frequency. They discussed the concept of energy as vibrating frequencies, the illusion of matter, and the different dimensions (3D, 4D, 5D) that exist. David, a former minister, shared his insights on how energy can influence matter and discusses working with misalignments within the body. Guy also mentioned his recent travels and invites listeners to connect beyond cyberspace. Tune in for an enlightening conversation on the power of energy and its impact on our lives.
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About David: David Hulse, C.V.S.M.T. (Certified Vibrational Sound Master Teacher) combines his 60 years of experience as a motivational speaker with years of research in metaphysics, science, sound and spirituality to bring you a unique and empowering experience. Participants in David’s workshops invariably comment that they had no idea how powerful the experience was going to be. David’s ability to gather all the fragments of truth from many different disciplines helps bring all of your experiences up to now into focus. Participants tell us that things in their life that seemed separate and fragmented suddenly come together after spending the weekend with David. We invite you to come and experience an empowering and inspiring weekend with David Hulse and experience the power of SomaEnergetics!
At the turn of the century, David’s accelerating interest and research into the lost frequencies of the Ancient Solfeggio, served as the Spirit-Guided catalyst for SomaEnergetics – a technique whereby the Solfeggio Tuning Forks help facilitate the releasing of energy to flow more easily. These custom-made forks, as well as training classes in the SomaEnergetics Vibrational Sound Techniques, including the Energy Vitality Technique are available exclusively through SomaEnergetics.
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Key Points Discussed:
- (00:00) – ACTIVATE YOUR ENERGY. Moving To 5D With Solfeggio Frequency Vibrations
- (04:11) – Spiritual awakening and healing.
- (09:03) – Quantum physics and awakening consciousness.
- (19:09) – The shift to 5D consciousness.
- (21:11) – Evolution of human consciousness.
- (25:30) – Healing and changing energy.
- (31:35) – Changing the label of cancer.
- (35:30) – Ancestral healing and contracts.
- (40:52) – Results from this work.
- (43:07) – Inner codes and activation.
- (47:24) – Tuning forks and frequencies.
- (51:57) – Rediscovery of ancient frequencies.
- (53:48) – Shifting energy patterns for breakthrough.
How to Contact David Hulse:
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www.guylawrence.com.au
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TRANSCRIPT
David (00:00):
There is no matter, only energy vibrating at frequencies that are perceptible to the five senses. That’s why the Eastern people call it Maya or illusion, because it’s only frequency patterning the field of energy.
Guy (00:31):
Guy here. Welcome to my podcast. Thanks for tuning in. Today I’ve got David Hulse on the show. We get into all sorts of conversations, but mainly energetics and frequency. What’s going on in the planet today from 3D to 4D to 5D? You might have heard a lot about that. The salvaggio frequencies. You might have heard about that. But also how we can start to work with misalignments within our body. I’m trying to find the right words here. But how energy can influence matter. It’s a fascinating conversation. David was an ex-minister, so he knows how to talk. He was beautiful. He’s a good man. And I have no doubt you’ll get a lot out of this conversation today. If you enjoy it, please let me know in the comments below. It’s great to connect with you just beyond cyberspace. If you’re watching this on YouTube, you could be on Spotify. iTunes, I don’t know. And there’s links below as well if you want to find out more what we’re up to around the world. I’ve just got back from Europe. Portugal was amazing. Zagreb, the event that we did as well was amazing. We just run retreats and workshops in Europe, if you’re wondering. And we’re back. And I’m up and down the country here in Australia. Anyway, there’s also other stuff below. I don’t know. I’m rabbiting now. Enjoy this conversation and I will see you soon.
Guy (01:50):
David, welcome.
David (01:53):
Thank you. Thank you for having me. I’m looking forward to our time together.
Guy (01:57): Likewise. Thank you so much for coming on the podcast. It’s fascinating because, as you can imagine, when you have a platform to share with people and have conversations like yourself, as it gets momentum, a lot of people ask to come on. And your team reached out and I instantly went, wow, look what this guy is doing. Well, it’s just that connection sometimes that we make, you know. Totally. And I was like, I got to know more. I got to know more. So the question I always ask everyone is if you were, say, at an airport or a cocktail party and somebody asked you what you did for a living or how did you pass your time? What would you say to them if you’re a complete stranger?
David (02:41): Well, I’m on a quest. Have been for many years. It was a young child, but I wanted to know the basic questions. Where did I come from? Why am I here? And what is my purpose? And where am I going? So that continues to unfold itself as we become more into the multidimensional idea of things, because you think you have it on one dimension, and then the next thing you know, the frequency has shifted and you’re on another dimension. And it’s just beginnings after beginnings after beginnings. So that’s been kind of my life has been those those moments, those epiphany moments. Yeah. Yeah.
Guy (03:27):
Yeah. Look, I think as a facilitator myself, they are the big questions. I think people are asking themselves, you know, what does it all mean? Why am I here? What is my purpose? And how can I lean in and have the courage, I think, to honor that? Because it can be scary at first. I’m interested before we get into what you do, because you certainly are on a quest. How did you end up doing what you do? And was there a breakdown to break through kind of thing? Was there a spiritual awakening? What happened on your journey? Because somebody clearly is as passionate of what you do. There’s always a story behind it, you know.
David (04:11):
Oh, I am a living story, no doubt about it. Well, actually, it begins very early in life. I was raised in a atmosphere of very traditional religious teaching as a child. And I was drug around to all these healing campaigns. And I sat there around 10 or 11 years old. And I said, why are some people getting healed and some not? Because I didn’t work with the teachings of an outside God who loved us all, treated us all alike. And I thought, well, that’s not what is happening. So the seed was planted in me at that time, because I continued to try to find out that answer. And that did not happen until the late 80s that I understood when I came into the understanding of such things as everything is energy. And when I began to understand that, I began to understand that energy is something that we have access to that is inexhaustible. It’s inexhaustible. It’s like a source of energy. So I began to try to find out why we didn’t heal. Then I got into more metaphysical teaching, and it wasn’t so much the physical healing, but it was manifesting. You know, how do we manifest prosperity? How do we manifest a healing or how we manifest the right partner and all that? And I thought things like the secret and whatever worked for some, but not all. It’s always been some, but not everybody. And I’ll tell you, to make this a long story short, what I ended up getting through a breakthrough was that people only manifested at the level of energy that they are connected to and the consciousness that matches it. So my simple illustration to teaching people this that they understand is if somebody wanted to write me a big check because they loved what I did and they want to support it. But by faith, they write me a $10,000 check, believing that maybe the universe would back it up. But it’s not there. It doesn’t go through because it’s not in the bank. There’s nothing to back it up. Right. So it would go through insufficient fun. But if they say got the lottery or a bunch of money in the bank and they wrote a check, it’d go through. So energetically, I believe that people have been living on survival level of our evolution. And I think we have a energy deficit in that sense. So I begin to want to find out how can I connect people to universal energy source? It’d be like I tell you what, it’d be like marching people down to the World Bank and getting some money out and then putting it in their account. And then when they wrote checks, it went through. So I began to understand how to do that in a download by using vibration, a combination of vibrations that I made into tuning forks. And that is what I’ve been teaching for 23 years in my company. So many jetties has been and teaching practitioners and teachers all over the world how to use these certain combination of frequencies to connect people at that coccyx level where the Kundalini is coiled and ready to move and be used. But it’s not being used. And I thought, well, how do we do that intelligently? Because you have to be careful with Kundalini work.
Guy (07:54):
Yeah, I couldn’t agree more. A thousand percent. I kind of liken it and that energy. And when working with people as to setting up the environment, so when the flower is ready to blossom, it will. We don’t force it. We don’t push it. We don’t scream at it. We don’t shake the plant to try and do something before it’s ready. And that’s how I kind of look at this work. And that’s what happened for me. Even though there was a part of me that didn’t think I was ready, but I was, you know, But you were. Yeah. So, you know, I want to close a loop in there, David, because everything I’m nodding my head in everything you say, I’m like, uh huh. And I can’t wait to dive into it. But you spoke about you had a direct experience where everything you realized everything was energy, because I think most people that I come across love the idea of it. They read books on it, but haven’t really embodied it or understand it from a deeper level. Yes. Is that what happened to you?
David (08:55):
Well, you know, sometimes it takes something outside of ourself to resonate our own innate intelligence and wake it up. And for me, it was just reading a little bit about quantum physics. When I started dabbling into that and I started reading Einstein and Max Planck and some of the early ones, they made a statement that just resonated with me. It’s like my brain went what? But my mind said yes. So I knew there was a difference between what was going on in my mind and my brain. They weren’t the same thing. So what it was was a quote that says about matter, we’ve all been wrong. There is no matter, only energy vibrating at frequencies that are perceptible to the five senses. Now, that’s a mouthful, but it is so powerful. Again, everything, there’s no matter. That’s why the Eastern people call it Maya or illusion because it’s only frequency patterning the field of energy. So I thought, OK, if everything is energy. And what happened, I’ll tell you, that was really for me was a shift out of the body mind spirit model. And that has served us well. But it still is taking three things and trying to make them separate when it’s not. It is three forms of the same thing. So if you’d use, say, steam, water and ice, that’s a simple one. And you see three different forms, but they’re all six-sided water molecules at different temperatures. So that changed everything for me is seeing the whole thing. And of course, I was a part of the what we call the within movement, that everything is within you. The kingdom is within you. The spirit is in you. The presence is within you. Everything you need is within you. And we kind of ignored the body. And I decided, no, the body is an energy system as much as any part of me. And that’s why I named it so much, which is the Greek word for body, mostly used throughout some of the text of the sacred scriptures. So that just changed everything for me to see everything from an energetic level and how it’s all connected in one thing. And therefore, using frequency and vibration, we can change the form of the energy, but we can’t destroy the energy.
Guy (11:25):
Got you. So two questions for you then, David. I’ll try and give you one. I get carried away. That’s OK. I do too. So when you talked about when some people were healing and some people weren’t, is that because then of the energy that is not flowing freely or that the frequency isn’t where it should be? And is that energy happening or I guess denser because of our circumstances, our traumas, our ancestors? Like there’s so many facets to these things that people talk about. I’d love to know what your thoughts are on all of that.
David (12:13):
Well, I call them energy discrepancies. Now, most people use the word blockage, but that’s been so overused, I think, now that we need to look at it differently. But yes, I think there’s several things that in my teachings of the classes that I teach that when you have to discern what’s going on with the person, everybody’s different. And what they’re dealing with is usually a different thing. It can be the fact of deep emotional patterneys in the subconscious of unresolved issues that people go through have been abused or grief or something like that. That’s that’s one thing. Another thing that I’ve found out is that some people don’t heal because it’s not their stuff. It’s coming through the ancestral story. So before I got into vibration and tuning forks, actually, I was led into doing DNA activation work back in the 80s. Well, I didn’t know that. And this is before Bruce Lipton gave us the fact of epigenetics and the fact that we’re not set in stone. But I knew that somehow that you could you could manipulate for a better word, DNA that didn’t have you don’t have to carry the story of your ancestors. There’s a saying I read somewhere. I don’t know. And some of the text, but it said, I see a generation to come that will not walk as their forefathers. And I thought and think about the word gin or gene aeration. So is there a new code and genetics in us that’s ready to be awakened by the right combination of frequencies that are like keys that opens up a way? Now, I’m going to get this. I must say this out of this out of this world that we’ve been put into this isolation, this matrix that we’re caught into and being manipulated by all these downloads of programs, including politics, religion and everything else. I think the way is not to fix it. Now, this is what I disagree with a lot of people. Most healing modalities wants to fix it. I don’t. I was asked in meditation when I started this. Do you want to work with what’s breaking down or what’s breaking through? I had no idea in my head what that meant, but I in the cells of my body, I knew that I was going to work with breakthrough. So the reason that there’s so much chaos and breakdown, which we have too much attention to, is because something’s trying to break through. So where are the light workers who are going to join together, create critical mass and work with breakthrough rather than keep trying to fix what’s breaking down? This is a natural cycle that we’re going through right now. In fact, this is one of the most spiritual times to be alive on the planet right now. It may not look like it with my five senses because I don’t like what I see on the media and what I see on news. I don’t like to see all of this polarization that’s going on in the world today. But in my higher self, I know this is all spirit because it is the caterpillar breaking down to become the butterfly. That’s the simplest way I can say it. And people have to realize that this is a very spiritual time and that we need people to work with what’s happening in that sense of repatterning us into what I call the new human. Now, I believe in bioconscious evolution, which is my term for raising our conscious and evolving it and bringing it to the cellular level. And that’s why I use bio with it, because I think that if we can match a belief system to our knowing system, see a lot of people believe to know I know and then believe. Because I knew a lot of things for I believed it. Follow me. Yeah. So when I raise my knowing to believing, I’ve raised the frequency of my consciousness, which gets this drives through the etheric blueprint cellular development. So this is how we’re going to raise ourself to be this new body of light, because the blood that runs in our veins, if you look it up, is congealed light. It’s trapped light in the density of 3D bodies. But actually in it is the life and light code. And once we raise ourself, we will have this light shining in us will be beings of light. Now, some call this the Merkaba or the Merkaba. Yeah, the light body, which is already in us. But we haven’t released it yet to become the light body. So anyway, I hope that makes some sense to you. But that’s kind of my vision of this.
Guy (17:28):
I know I am nodding my head like an agreement with everything you say. Not that I just want to. But the fact is, there’s a couple of points I want to reiterate for everyone listening. I don’t watch TV. I don’t watch the news. I actually give it no energy at all. And the only thing I focus on is obviously within my family circumstances and what I can do to help facilitate and help people that are ready to step in and lean in to this work. Because I want to see a better evolution. And I think we definitely get caught into that trap of, like you say, pushing against, resisting against the very things that we don’t want, as opposed to just focusing on the very things that we want to create in our lives and focus our energy there. It’s a really important point.
David (18:15):
And you know, they’re all saying is what we resist persists. So they don’t understand to be against something is to really feed it with energy. So we need to be in a neutral state in which we judge nothing right or wrong, good or bad, and just let it be what it is and trust the intelligence that everything is going toward the higher good of the evolutionary process.
Guy (18:40):
Yeah. I’ve got some notes here. What’s going on in the planet then? Because we often hear about, are we going from 3D to 5D? Frequencies are changing. Some people are not even aware of that. And you either hop on and go with it or if you resist, you’re resisting something that’s going to cause more pain and suffering evidently or eventually to what’s happening. How do you see this from your perspective, what’s happening? Because it is an incredible time to be alive. I couldn’t agree more. Yeah.
David (19:14):
Well, I think the 3D, 4D, 5D is a language that we use. You know, a language is symbolic. So I think we have to be careful about taking stuff too literal. I do use the idea that I live in a 3D density world, which is my physical body mental level. And I do talk about 5D as a level of consciousness that we are trying to evolve and to attain to. What’s not being talked about is 4D. Nobody is really dealing with 4D because you’ve got to go through 4 to get to 5D if we use that terminology. And 4D is what some of us, I don’t know how many, kind of believe that is where those who control the order of the planet, whoever you see that being, is kind of using mind control on the masses of people. And therefore, they’re losing that control. They’re losing that control because people are evolving. People have more information at their fingertips, such as your program and many others are teaching people and raising people’s vibration. And the more that we raise that vibration, the more we take away what we’ve been feeding in the past. So I use that language because it’s good to use it for comparison of whatever it is. But here’s a…in some energetics, what was given to me is that we know we live in third dimension. I mean, that’s physics, height, breadth, width, everything we see. And then you have 4D, which you have to get through. Then when you get to 5D, and I’m going to hold this up here, which is that backwards? No, that’s perfect. Good. Okay. If you look at 5D, you catch the spiral. Yeah. The spiral that spirals you into this new multi-dimensional whole thing of the…you know, it’s not the universe anymore. It’s the multiverse and all that kind of thing. So we’re understanding all these different dimensions of consciousness, but we need the curve. Now, if you look at most religious teaching, they call this the end of the world because they don’t understand that it’s going to curve and catch us into an evolutionary spiral that is going to spiral us into the next level at what it means to be human. And I’ll tell you, this is going to be as powerful as moving from homo sapien sapien to homo luminous. To think this is it, to me, is ridiculous. To think this is the end of the journey, but we’re not. We have much more potential. We’re not using our potential. We’re not using all of our consciousness, all of our mind. We’re not using all of our DNA. We use very little DNA, and most of us, that is the true us, is in the state of potential. So every time that I use tuning forks and tap them together and create that charge, I’m saying to the potential in the person, awake into the consciousness. So I’m awaking the potential. Whereas everybody keeps trying again to fix that 10%, 5%, or 3% that we’re using all the time and not exploring the uncharted territory of our possibilities and attention, which is trying to wake up in us. And as it awakens, we begin to see the world differently, ourselves and each other.
Guy (23:00):
Amen, yes, a thousand percent. When you say the luminous body, because of my experiences, I can completely relate to that. I’ve had dozens of mystical experience and experience where I’ve actually felt that light coursing through my veins. It’s a very real visceral thing. And on my journey, there’s felt like an adaptation within the physicality to allow that to, I guess, run through my body easier and be more sensitive to it beyond the five senses. It’s like an awareness that you continue to develop. But there’s a physical change going on as well at some level.
David (23:42):
You’re saying it very well. You’re saying it very well. That’s what I like to hear. OK, yeah. Yeah, you got it. You got it.
Guy (23:50):
So the question I have for you then, should people fear this? Because it’s an unknown. It’s change. It’s coming, whether people believe it or not. You know, that’s what I believe. And it’s happening. So we can either like surrender into this and nurture it, or we can continue to resist and go in the old paradigm. And I believe it’s because there’s parts of us that are fearful of change and fearful of leading into that.
David (24:20):
Yeah, that seems to be a trait of the third dimension human, I call it, is because so many things have built fear into us. Fear of the unknown, fear of the unfamiliar. I mean, we adapt. And that’s the legacy of humanity is we’ve learned to adapt and live through famines and wars and all kinds of things. So we’ve learned to adapt to our own illness, our own sicknesses, our own limitations. And people have almost subconsciously become too comfortable in that place that when something new is challenges them, they revert back to what’s familiar to them. So this is the challenge of people like ourselves who are trying to get people to move into the unchartered part of themselves is to get past that fear that they have. And of course, that’s nothing but the ego mind or whatever you want to call it, the lower human mind that wants to stop that. Because if enough of us get past that, we’re going to shift and change the whole consciousness of the planet. I mean, this is big stuff actually on a bigger scale of the bigger picture.
Guy (25:26):
Yeah. So moving it back and leaning into what you do more, I want to go there. But when it comes to then healing, and that could be emotional healing, mental healing, physical healing, whatever that looks like, to me, that means like a natural homeostasis for a person. We’re back to our default true self kind of thing. We always tend to focus on the physical. So with all your knowledge and what you’re saying, and let’s say we’re in unhappy relationships, we’re in a life that we want to escape from, I guess, for a better word. There’s a deep sadness, loneliness that I used to carry with me. Are you saying then we should be to change our circumstances, we should change our energy?
David (26:22):
Well, exactly. Good question. The other thing that’s given to me that’s unique to some energetics teaching is everybody tends to go toward matter before energy. So they say the body has an aura. No, the aura has and becomes a body. You don’t start here and go out. You start out here in the katheric, because that crown energy center, chakra, whatever you want to call it, spins off into one of the subtle energy bodies called the katheric. Now, I happen to believe that my true self, that spirit energy, was created whole and perfect now. So I don’t buy into a belief in lack, that I don’t have something and I need to get it. I’ve already got it in a higher state of my consciousness. I am whole. So we teach our people not to even use the term and label themselves as healers, but as facilitators to facilitate self healing in the person. Right. So that’s been an important part of the training and the teaching that we have done. And of course, people who want that label are coming from ego because the ego lives on labels. You know, because when I have a label that’s different from your label, I’m not you and you’re not me. And we’re buying into that moment in which we have bought into a belief of separation, which it proves through the body. So here’s the thing. When you come from that outer katheric, you have your causal, you have your astral, you have your mental, emotional, and all of that coalesce into the last body before the body, call an etheric blueprint. Now, what’s in the etheric blueprint is what cells look at to reproduce themselves. So somebody says to me, because I made a statement, I think I heard from Deepak Chopra, that the liver makes itself every six weeks. And somebody said, no, that can’t be true, because if somebody had cancer of the liver, why would they have it after six weeks? I said, because you didn’t change the blueprint. The blueprint of your etheric body that held the misinterpretations of your wholeness as less is what the cell is reading, therefore giving you an inferior body to who you were created to be. So there’s kind of a difference in the level of form and matter and creation level. There’s a gap there, and that’s where we need to be working in the so-called healing world, is we need to be working in that gap to bridge and to connect that. So the fact of using tuniphorics and true energy work to me is working in that etheric energy body and changing the blueprint that the body can, cells of the body can read a different blueprint than the blueprint that we are presenting to it. Because, and we have proof pretty much that most 99% of illness and disease is in the etheric blueprint six to nine months before it becomes physical. So just imagine we’re training people to find that in the etheric body six to nine months or a year before it becomes physical and change. I’m changing cause, which will change of effect. So we’re healing the body at the etheric level, which will show up in the physical body, rather than trying to fix the physical body, which is effect, and not change the cause.
Guy (30:02):
Essentially going further up the waterfall and where it’s narrower, right? Exactly, exactly, exactly. But that’s energy work. That’s energy work. Yeah, no, well explained. Can I ask you a question then? Sure. On that, when you’re testing, do we need to know the circumstances or the issues or the traumas or the very things that have caused any problems? Because we tend to get attached to them pretty much.
David (30:31):
I think it’s best sometimes not to. And that’s where I think if you’re going to be a truly an energy practitioner, that you first need to go through what it takes to sharpen your intuition. You’ve got to open that third eye, that eye of enlightenment to see past the illusion, the appearance of the five senses and to see something energetically. So I may not see particularly cancer, MS or some disease, but I may find a mispatterning that is that or be going to become that. So why name it? I think the worst thing we do is start naming things that are nothing but energy discrepancies that are going on. And then we give it a name and the doctor tells us we have cancer. And the minute that we name it cancer, then a seed is planted into our mind of all of the stuff that goes with having cancer, that you’re going to die, that you’re going to do this, you’re going to do that. So wonder if we just look at it energetically. I have a friend that had terrible cancer. She taught me a great lesson, but she changed her whole attitude and she stopped calling it cancer and called C answer. That her whole experience was about opening up answers to the depths of her life. And she changed everything from chemo to dreamo, completely changed and took away the power and the sting of the label of the disease. And she lived years and years beyond what they expected her to do.
Guy (32:08):
Yeah. Wow. So how do you test then if somebody comes to you and you want to test that field? And what was the word you used? Discrepancies? Was that correct?
David (32:21): Energy discrepancies. What we call blockages. In other words, it keeps that flow, life flow from flowing through all of the avenues of our being, which since everything is energy, but also everything is information. We sometimes change the information to more misinformation based upon what we’ve been taught and downloaded from outside of ourselves. But if we could just learn to be true to the essence of who we truly are, we would live a different life and walk a different path. But we tend to take too much from the outside world and let them make us into their image of what they want us to think. So this is the importance of becoming more independent, I think, from some of these systems that we have. But yes, I’ll tell you what I do, because I do so many different things in this work. I do DNA, ancestral, past life, in between life, in this life that I got overwhelmed. So in meditation, I got a download of a chart. So when a person comes to see me like a client, 30 minutes before they come, the energy body shows up before the body does. So I have this thing and I take for me, it works a pendulum, whoever works, and I go through in this. Should we work with something in past lives? Yes. Is it in the first chakra between conception and six years, seven years old? No. Is it in after is it in the second chakra after seven years old? Yes. Four, five. Yes. Five years happened. Now, again, I don’t have to know what happened. I just know that something has happened that has stopped the flow of them being able to heal from that emotional or physical situation. Then I go in and say, is it a past life issue? Maybe not in that session. No, but it’s an ancestral. That’s why they can’t find an answer to heal themselves, because it’s not theirs. It’s something traveling, a myism that’s coming down through the DNA of their ancestry. Yes, we are to work with that. How many generations back can we undo in this session? Ten? No. Eight, seven, six. Oh, six generations back, we can unwind the ancestral generations to clear that. So what I’m saying to you, I have to customize each person to whatever the higher intelligence wants us to work on, rather than me just dive in there and do my thing of what I think it should be. And another thing that I want to say is it’s important with anybody out there that is working with energy, be sure and honor the contracts and agreements of the person before they came into that incarnation. Because some things that you think you want to heal and fix is very spiritual and teaching them and driving them toward their destiny. And you don’t want to uproot that. You want to give them the strength and the wisdom to understand why that is in their lives so they can learn the lesson and learning the lesson will free them from the symptom.
Guy (35:30):
Yeah, wow. So let’s say you’ve gone through that process with people and they walk through your door and you think, OK, I need to work on the second chakra. You know, there’s been three generations of issues coming on here. And what do you do with them? Is that where the tuning forks are coming in or are you using a combination of many modalities? It seems like you’ve got quite a few tools in your toolkit.
David (35:59):
Yeah, mostly, Soul Minergetics is about tuning forks. I tell you why I love a tuning fork. One is just raw vibration. Now, when I get vibration through music or whatever, it attaches me to emotional. I feel sad, happy. I remember something that happened when I was breaking up or falling in love or something like that. But a tuning fork takes you nowhere. It’s just pure vibration. The second thing I like about it is because it’s not connected to the grid. So, yes, people can know what we’re doing. People can know what I’m doing on all the gadgets I have in my car and everything electronic, but they can’t tap in to the vibration of a tuning fork. So the tuning fork seems primitive, but it’s so pure and raw. So I have a lot of different tuning forks in that way. So what I do is I do the first phase or what’s called energy vitality technique. And that goes back to our conversation of we’ve got to have the energy to make the changes in our life. So I have to connect their personal energy field to universal energy field. Remember marching them down to the World Bank? I don’t like the World Bank, but I’m using that where all the money is. So I’m going to take them where all the energy is beyond their survival level so I can bring it in to the coccyx. When I do that, I want to give it over to the chakras because the chakras are intelligent to tell me how to move that energy up the spine intelligently. So it’s amazing. The tuning fork will stop, sound differently, and let me know enough here, enough. So let’s say your first chakra is a six ounce glass. It’s already got two, but it wants two more. So rather than over stimulate the energy, I let the tuning fork let me know, OK, this is all that this chakra wants to give because then it will assembly into our third energy anatomy body. So that’s the first thing that I do. Then the second thing is the DNA forks, energy, body tuners. Sometimes if a person already has a situation, I will use the the meridians. I will use acupressure acupuncture points. So we try to cover everything that makes us up as a whole person to address like that. If you’d let me, I’d like to I just feel to share something with you because this was this was a huge crossroads for me. I had a very successful ministry for many years. I was a man in many, many years. Yeah, right. Very successful. So when I got into this, I was the devil. People had a fit, you know, like, oh, my God, what’s he gone into? So I was really contemplating what do I do when I found these tuning forks and the loss of frequency frequencies? And I was in my office at that time and by myself and a book literally fell off the bookshelf. My left brain said, oh, well, that’s some truck out there vibrating. I didn’t know what it fell off. My right brain said, you need to listen to this. I wouldn’t picked it up. It’s called The Keys of Enoch. It’s a huge book. I didn’t want to deal with it. It’s just very complicated. But it opened up to this and I’m going to share it with you. We will not suffer the negative irradiation or excessive ultraviolet radiation that will bomb barred the places of Earth, for we will inhabit the safe zones at the time of the great geophysical upheavals. Thought adjusters are now correcting and repairing our blood crystallization levels of ionized consciousness through frequency attunement. I went, oh, my God, that’s what I’m going to do. I’m going to use frequency attunement to free the consciousness of life that’s in the blood that is going to guide us and lead us through this fourth dimensional chaos and breakdown and polarization. Then it ends with this is the making of a people within a people and a mind of light within a mind of light. This change, the physical flesh, the temple of the higher garment will receive a new garment of light. That was 23 years ago, and that gave me the strength to step out and to say, OK, I’m opening myself up for the downloads on how to use these tuning forks to assist people to make an easier transition into the next level of their bio conscious evolution.
Guy (40:43):
Beautiful. What kind of you’ve obviously worked with a lot of people. What have you seen? What kind of results have you seen from doing this kind of work?
David (40:54):
Well, oftentimes that’s what keeps you going, you know, is the people that give you the feedback and the testimonies and and whatever. And that has been an amazing part of this journey and the people that you meet and the people that are drawn to this type of teaching. It’s not for everybody at this time, but it’s for those that are at a level in which they’re stepping up and saying, yes, I’m going to be a light worker. And we need these light workers. I think it’s so important what I call light workers, which is a critical mass of souls who have incarnated for this time. That are ready to not just look for what what is good for just me, but what can I do for the planet? And that’s the call I put out is to the light workers to come and to use this this vibration frequencies and all these kind of things. So, wow, there’s so much I could say about that. I could go down a rabbit hole. But, yeah, it is just been amazing work, just amazing work of the people we’re in. We’re translated in Japanese, Chinese, French, Spanish, American, of course, and all these kind of things. So we have teachers all over the place. So we’re out there trying to do the work through frequency attunement to release, because I believe that these forks that I use call for the light workers. Because I believe that these forks that I use call solfeggio are six frequencies that are ancient keys that opens and awakens the inner codes within us. That makes us ready to take that next leap of evolution into the next level of what it means. You know, when I use this example of the all the the caterpillar in the butterfly, which is so simple, but it’s profound. I tell people that caterpillar doesn’t go through what it goes through to emerge as an enlightened caterpillar. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it goes through what it’s going through, because hidden within it is a code to become the next thing that it is to become as a butterfly. And I think within us is deep codes in our energy spirit body that is ready to be revealed and activated that is going to give us a way to make a way for us to make a nice experience of. We don’t have to go through such a hard, difficult time. We can actually open portals and vibrational pathways that’s going to make us easy to go over into the next level without all of the chaos and whatever. That’s for those who are not chaos is for those who are not opening up for the change. Those who are, like we say, staying in their comfort zone and what’s familiar. It’s going to take chaos to shake them loose, but we can make a different choice and say yes to the universe and yes to the how the universe is going to proceed to help us to make this journey through five for D, which, by the way, for D is where the mind control has been for a long time. But it is losing its power, and that’s why you see it rising up in the political world and all these religious and everything else. Everybody is trying to hold on and go back. They think making things great is going back to something, and it’s not. It’s going forward into the uncharted, unknown part of ourself. And that’s what we’ve got to help people to to get rid of that fear and see it as the greatest adventure of their life to to move on.
Guy (44:40):
No, for sure, for sure. But I think just to maybe read the question in a different way is that if people come and actually experience this work and do that, how have you seen it show up in their lives? Like, are we talking about different diseases going away or has there been pain elimination? Because a lot of people listening to this podcast will be in a place of wanting to lean in, but also there’ll be elements that they want to want to move past.
David (45:12):
Sure. Well, again, as I say, I never diagnose an illness or sickness. I never label it or name it because people’s always asking me, what can I do for this? What can I do for that? What you can do is get in homeostasis. That’s the first thing is get in balance, get aligned with all that you are. And then all of those things are the byproduct. The physical healing is the byproduct of what you do in the soul realm or whatever you want to call it, the energy realm. When you change that, this will change. So, again, I think we have our pain and illness is a very demanding destruction. I don’t say destruction, but it’s a it takes our attention away from the real work that is in us. So to get people past that is a challenge, no doubt about it. And the challenge has been in this work of preventive work. You know, I remember back years ago, we used to tune our cars. We don’t do it anymore. But I tuned my car because I didn’t want it to break down. People tune their piano because they don’t want it to go out of tune. But yet we don’t tune ourselves so that we don’t get sick and and ill. So that’s what I’ve tried to teach people to do. But yes, we’ve heard everything. But sometimes it shows up emotionally. Mentally, people get free. People find out that as they release these old patterns, that they create space for new energy to come in and they become more energetically inclined to have access to the energy to manifest it. And of course, that’s where things come in, like using thoughts become things and your mental attitude. And that’s where all that happens. But now you have the energy to do that. It’s not a mental construct. See, I don’t I don’t buy into this positive thinking as a mental construct, but I do believe in spiritual thinking. Yeah, positive thinking is better than negative thinking. Don’t don’t misunderstand me. But I don’t think it’s the answer to everything. I don’t think that all the time works to heal you, but it may bring you to a more positive state that you can then be healed. But it’s not going to heal you. But it may help you to find that healing in yourself. I want to show you my tuning forks here. These are my six tuning forks right here that are called the solfeggio frequencies. These are some powerful, powerful frequencies. And I just this is mostly what we teach people and how to use them together because they they create all of these are vibration of three, six and nine, which Tesla said when man understands three, six and nine, he’ll have a key to the universe. So no matter what we do to these frequencies in harmonics, it never loses three, six or nine. So these are phenomenal forks. But this is where you kind of start out with us in phase one that you can learn it to use on other people or you can kind of use them on yourself or whatever. But as this this 528, you may have heard of the 528. It’s kind of a movement out there of the 528 love frequency, which is doing phenomenal things for people all over the world. And it’s an amazing which, by the way, these are all Latin, which is marogastorum in Latin, which means miracle. But also biochemists was using to repair DNA. And this is the one that I wanted to get for my DNA activation was this one when I found out about the other ones. So I just had them all made because somebody said because I couldn’t find it in Western music. You understand Western music is a part of the box we live in. It’s called boxed in music because it closes the closes the octave C to C, C to C. But the Thagrin came along and said, I tell you what, let’s don’t close the octave. Let’s overshoot it. And when he did, he found the spiral between planets and all of the heavenly bodies and brought it down into music and sound and started using it in his mystery school and started healing people and whatever. In other words, he brought heaven to Earth through vibration and sound. So these frequencies are are just tremendous. And we could talk about that maybe another time and get into them. You can get on our website and you can see a whole lot about them on somenergetics.com.
Guy (49:50):
Yeah, beautiful. I just got to ask you, though, because you hear it all the time and you already touched on it. And it could be just a brief answer. But what are solfeggio, if I pronounce it frequencies, because you hear that word all the time. It’s you know, and it’s like, well, what does that mean?
David (50:06):
Yeah. Well, so Feigio was a system of sounds or vibrations that were used in ancient times. We really don’t know how far they go back. Egypt into the Greek mystery schools. And finally, it ended up in the pre-Christian Catholic Gregorian chants. Now, this is before Nicene, fourth, fourth, the fourth century when it was organized into the Christian church. That was a whole different group of people, the Essenes, the Gnostics, Kabbalah. All of those things are pre-organized religion. So they were using this and singing these free songs and they were having all kinds of experiences. They were they were finding the divine in themselves. And of course, when the church decided to go fear based, they shut this down and closed it up and changed the tuning of these frequencies. Then they were rediscovered. Finally, after the 17th century, they were found again in 1974. And that’s when I read about them and I thought, I really want to know more about this. So I couldn’t find it. These frequencies in any Western music. So someone just said to me out of the blue, you can have a tuning fork made any frequency you want. So I said, well, I want to get this 528. But why why don’t we get all six of them made? And when I held those forks in my hand, I stood at a fork in the road. My book, a fork in the road, literally. And I I decided to take that fork in the road and to see what would happen. And I just begin to get downloads how to use these things 23 years ago. So it’s been a wonderful experience to get a download of something that nobody else was doing. Because I think we end up doing more what other people have done, thinking what other people have thought. And I think we need to expand our consciousness and realize there’s so much potential out there to become good new entrepreneurs of new techniques, new businesses, the new model, the new model that’s trying to break through. And I think that frequency is where you want to go back to and vibration.
Guy (52:35):
Yeah, I couldn’t agree more. Beautiful, David. So if people want to learn more, obviously they can just go to your website, somerenergetics.com. Sure, sure. Yeah. Yeah. And then and your book as well. That will have information in there on the forks itself and the frequencies and everything.
David (52:56): Yeah, it tells my journey to the forks and then it tells you about the forks and how we use them and how to whatever. It’s a pretty powerful little book, I have to say. So you can get it. You can get the book itself or you can get it downline as a whatever they call that. MP3. Yeah. Yeah.
Guy (53:23):
I got one last question for you then, David, which to wrap up the podcast, which I always ask everyone on the show is. But with everything we’ve covered today, what would you like to leave the listeners to ponder on?
David (53:37):
Well, I would like them to ponder or contemplate on the fact, again, that the time we’re living in a breakdown is because of breakthrough. And if they’ll get on the side of breakthrough, then we can absolutely change and shift the entire energy patterns of what makes up this world and bring it into what’s called the new earth. Yeah. And for them to realize that they’re already created whole, that they don’t have to be in a state or a belief of lack or separation, but that all things are already accomplished in the higher atmospheres of their consciousness. We just need to get there, work with the wholeness rather than what’s broken. And we can begin to see some wonderful things manifested in our life that will transform everything for the life of the person.
Guy (54:35):
Yeah. Fantastic, David. Thank you so much. I really enjoyed our conversation today. It was fascinating. And I have no doubt when it goes out, a lot of people will get a lot out of this conversation today.
David (54;46):
I hope so. And thank you for having me. I really appreciate having a platform for my voice.
Guy (54:51):
Yeah, you’re very welcome, mate. You’re very welcome. Thank you, David. Thank you.