#127 My lovely guest this week is Sharon Taylor, a previous Live In Flow retreat participant.
Honestly, this conversation has it all! Below are some of the points we dive deep into.
How the work with the live in flow team has been instrumental in:
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- Recognising and shifting unresolved grief that had built into anger and resentment.
- Shifting a 25 year old ‘physical injury’ that many treatments and lots of $ couldn’t shift.
- Wake up to the power of my body and it’s intuition and how important the breath is.
- Be the best version of me….a much more empathetic and kind person and most importantly parent.
- Feel excited and inspired about life and actually want to live.
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About Sharon: A mum of 2 amazing boys.
Currently an accountant who works with business in the renewable energy space. After practising yoga for over 20 years, I finally have the motivation and confidence to study to be a yoga teacher.
After the sudden loss of my husband, I had unresolved grief that turned into anger and resentment, which was affecting me physically, emotionally and mentally and in turn affecting my children too. My body told me it couldn’t cope anymore and my request to the universe fortunately led me to the ‘live in flow’ team.
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Guy: Hi, my name is Guy Lawrence. And thanks for tuning into my podcast today. If you’re enjoying these conversations and you want to check out more of this transformational work, be sure to come back to guylawrence.com.au and join me as we go further down the rabbit hole. Enjoy the show.
Guy: Sharon, welcome to the podcast.
Sharon: Hi Guy. Glad to be here. Thanks for having me.
Guy: Oh the pleasure’s all mine. I know we’ve been trying to make the stars aligned to get you on the show for awhile and I’m very excited to have you in here today because I’ve notice every time we catch up and I meet you or even not the events or the workshops and things, some of the things that you’ve shared with us as amaze me as well. So it’s been one of those things to watch your own journey from afar and being involved, yet for me to get you on the podcast so you can share with many other people. So I really appreciate you coming on and sharing today. But before we start, as I always ask everyone, uh, and if a stranger stopped you on the street, uh, my, you know with Covid 19 going on, it might be a little bit harder than normal, but I’m sure it’s happening. And they asked you what you did for a living. Uh, right now, what would you say?
Sharon: I’m a mom of two pretty amazing boys, teenage boys. Um, and I’m an accountant working for businesses in the renewable energy space. So I’ve got two clients that I work for, um, and I’m studying to be a yoga teacher as well.
Guy: Amazing, amazing. And I love the fact that you’re an accountant and I’ll tell you, well, I’ll tell you, I’ll tell you why. Because from the outside looking in, when you look at, you know, what I’ve been doing on my personal journey with this work and meditation to then live in flow with myself, Petra and Matt, it’s very easy to assume that we’re kind of fringe and it’s just on the outskirt of this work and that and you know, it’s normal people with everyday challenges and things that are coming through and embody in this work. And, um, it’s easy to assume from the outside looking in that, you know, Oh, that’s just not for me. That’s not this and that. So as an accountant as well, I’m intrigued. Where did it start for you in this journey and starting to look into this work for yourself first? Even before we actually, you came to our retreat and everything?
Sharon: I look, I think that I’ve been doing yoga for, for about 20 years, 25 years, 20 years. And my yoga teacher always talked about the yoga practice being on the mat and off the mat. So I had a little bit there, but not, not to this sort of level. Um, so I think that was a little bit of, um, my introduction into it, but I never did any sort of meditation or breath work, um, or any of the sound work that we do. So I hadn’t done any of that. But I think that was my introduction.
Guy: Did you come across first? Was it me or Matt?
Sharon: It was Matt work.
Guy: Matt working with sound as well. Why did you decide to, to look at that?
Sharon: Oh, look, I didn’t, that’s what the universe gave me.
Guy: Oh, please tell me. How did they gave it to you?
Sharon: Uh, I mean it goes way back. I mean, this is where I might, like, this is where it starts because I was in a place where I had been, um, but how far back do we want to go? Do I just want to start?
Guy: Please yeah go back, go back.
Sharon: So I think it probably started, um, so my husband passed away 13 years ago. And, um, so that was, that was a big shock. Um, the interesting thing I think about that was that I actually knew it, what had happened at the time. It was happening. It was like, hi. So what had, we had a 10 month old baby Kai and I had just put him down for a nap.
Sharon: And um, he and I had just gone upstairs and I was just chilling out and it had gone on a triathlon. He was just doing like one leg of these triple try and he, um, and he was probably due to come back and I was just in my room just kind of relaxing and I just had these, knowing that this particular friend, it was like, I saw it, like she came to the, to the door. I saw her in the window. I know, I said to her, and this was like a day, it was a daydream. I was wide awake, I wasn’t sleeping. And I said to her, what are you doing here? And she said, something’s happened. And so then when, if didn’t come back when he was supposed to and always calling him and it was like, I just went and then that friend, I actually came to the door.
Sharon: So when I saw her, I just went Deca, same thing. What are you doing here? And she said they can’t find him. So that was really kind of a shock. Like that was, I couldn’t believe that I saw knew that that was happening. And I think I kind of shut that off. Like I, in some ways I felt a bit guilty like I had made it happen. So, but doing a bit more of this work, I think it was more my intuition telling me that something had happened. Um, and so then as the kind of ease went by, I was okay at the start, but my grief that I didn’t really deal with turning to like anger and resentment.
Guy: May I, may I ask how your husband passed?
Sharon: Look, he was doing a triathlon and he was running and they call it now sudden adult death syndrome. So they don’t really know exactly what happened to his heart. Um, but it just, yeah, not a hundred percent sure. So the boys do get checked and they get checked regularly. So they have, just in case it is a genetic type of disorder. Hold on. It’s been passed on to them, but unfortunately we don’t really know exactly what it was. And he was incredibly fed. It wasn’t like he went for a run and he was on feet and it was too much for him. He was the fittest he’d ever been in his entire life.
Guy: Wow. So, sorry, I, I, I jumped in there. So you said as the years passed, I think you mentioned anger and resentment was beginning.
Sharon: Absolutely. Like, um, I just, everything, every sort of it ended up being that every kind of stress that I had would turn into being really angry with him for dying and leaving us. And, um, and I resented it a bit too, to be honest. Um, but, and then it just kind of, it kind of built up. And I remember, um, I remember looking back at a video of, um, me and the boys. Yeah. And always, always, always showing them the video to say, Hey, look, when you were little, you used to put all your clothes away. And, um, but what I actually got out of it was I was a completely different person. My voice was completely different. It was light and it was fun. And it wasn’t like that. Now. And even my son said to me, mom, who was that on the video?
Sharon: And I said, that was me. And he goes, no, it wasn’t. And I realized, you know, that I was nothing like what I was then. So it had changed to that. To that point, I’m, my kids have always been a bit of a barometer for me. So when I recognize that they’re struggling, I sort of go, well, what am I giving off to them? And one in particular is like that he will really feed off me. So, um, where are we at? We’re about in about June, 2018 I think it was where I had like this really funny episode where I was so overwhelmed and stressed and angry that I must’ve screamed or yelled or something. I was hanging clothes outside upstairs on the line. And I remember hearing this sound in my head and just going, Oh, what have I done there? Like I just, it was, and yeah, it was really, it was really quite scary.
Sharon: And the next day I then develop these pine down like a numbness and all this sort of stuff down the side of my, um, pains in my chest went up the side of my face. Like it was a real physical high and it was obviously my body saying I’ve had enough. Yeah. You know, you need to listen to what I’m saying. I can’t do, we can’t do this anymore. Um, and that went on for about six months or so, and I went for all these tests on my heart and all that sort of stuff. And it came back completely negative. Like my heart was completely fine, but I think the scariest time was not time when it was wood. Um, I feel like it was worse. Yeah. Mmm. Yeah. And I, I think I was like that for about six months, but I think it was going on, you know, for a long time where it was just, I was just going down into these downwards sort of spiral.
Guy: Well, we used to say, was there a sense of awareness that the grief, the anger, the stress had been building up and it was manifested into the body? Was it, was it that kind of awareness to it or you thinking, or was it just like, so there’s something broken, there’s something wrong, I need to fix it.
Sharon: Oh, I knew it was stressed. I knew it was constantly stress and being overwhelmed and, you know, just trying to, I was basically at that point where I just knew that I had to get my boys too, that were about it. And then I didn’t care what happened to me. Wow. So that was what, that was where I was at.
Guy: So it was your boys that kept you going basically? Yes,
Sharon: absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And they, um, [inaudible] yeah. And that’s not the best way to live. Just trying to get by to get through. So then of course, when I was having those pains, that was my fear as well, was, Oh, what happens if something happens to me? What’s going to happen to them? But, um, yeah, it’s interesting just and just not enjoying life. There was no enjoyment or fun. Well, not much at all.
Guy: Incredible. So far out. I didn’t really, you know, obviously I kind of knew some of the story. I didn’t know it. The steps are, and um, so I can only imagine, you know, when you’re in that place, there’s a, there’s a sense of hopelessness stuck in. And I’m just like, basically, what the fuck do I do now? Kind of thing. Sorry, I cut you off. Please keep going, keep going.
Sharon: I remember my brother had this, a really good friend of his commit suicide. And at the time we talked about it and we said, I don’t know. I don’t know how you could get to that point where you would even think doing that. But now I know, like, I know how you can, like, you can, your mind gets to that place where it was like, you think you know what you should be thinking, but you can’t change it.
Sharon: If that makes sense. And then that creates even more frustration and hopelessness because you know, and, and this and the psychologists, I saw a few like that, six psychologists and never, I think I saw about six that I was just trying to find the right feet and I did find one really great one and it was all about mindfulness. But it’s so hard to be mindful and fix what’s going up in here when, what’s going on in here now I know. Yeah. To track what’s going on in here. Needs to start the day needs to start first.
Guy: Yeah.
Sharon: I mean, but that’s only come now that I’m aware of all this, you know, I’ve got the tools and I’ve sort of done this sort of work, but I didn’t know that before.
Guy: Incredible. So, okay, so you’re in this place get obviously, cause it’s a spiral, right? The negative loop and you just, it’s like you say, it’s hard to break and come out. Especially when you not realize that this, the body that’s influencing the mind as well. And you’ve seen six psychologists, you’re, you’re coming up against yourself more and more. So then what, what happened? What was the turning point? Cause we still haven’t got the map yet.
Sharon: No, no, no, no. So this is where it leads into it. So I was, yes, I was at that point. Um, it was about, I went on Christmas holidays in Melbourne and I was still having all those pains and that, and then in about January, 2019, I came home and I, and the boys stayed in Melbourne and, um, I was home by myself and I just, I said some, you know, I yelled it, I just went, something has got to change, this has got to change. And I felt the difference. I felt that I, I don’t know what it was, but it was just a feeling. It was like, yep, I’ve got to do something about it. Something’s got to change. And then I was on Facebook and a friend had said, she’s going to this yoga workshop. And I thought, Oh, well I’m, you know, I’m here by myself.
Sharon: I’ll just oldest go along. And I messaged the lady and I said, you know, have you got any spots left? She goes, you wouldn’t believe it. Someone just pulled out, you can have the habit for a discount at this price. So I went along and it was the yoga, and I had no idea that Matt’s work was going to be, Matt was going to be there, and I had, I didn’t know anything about him. So I did the yoga workshop and then he came in and he did the sound healing and I cried through the whole thing. I stopped, I didn’t cry. I still through the whole thing. Um, and at the, they say, he asked the question, he says, or give something about, okay, give me one word to describe it. And as everyone was going around, everyone was saying things like, Oh, beautiful, colorful, peaceful bliss. And I’m just going,
Guy: Oh, wow.
Sharon: Um, and I think I said, um, I think I said powerful. Mmm. So that was, that was way the change has started happening and I felt so different afterwards,
Guy: hopefully through the next few days after that. So yeah,
Sharon: look, I can’t really remember, but I remember feeling a lot more peaceful and things didn’t bother me as much, but it’s really hard, hard to remember. Um, yeah, but I, I knew I needed to go down that path and do more of that sort of work. Like I, I really, that kind of sparked that interest in that awareness.
Guy: Beautiful. There was enough of an experience to make you go, there’s something in this. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. Do you think you would have gone if you had known what you were in for?
Sharon: Oh yeah. I just gone, but it would have been the yoga that would have, that would have, um, you know, encouraged me along to do it. Yeah. That’s where it would have been. Um, so that was, yeah, so that was where I first came across. You know, your, you know, your work or maps.
Guy: So you, so you’ve had that experience, you’re taking it back in. Um, so that was beginning of 2019. So then what happened, because I think you must’ve come to the winter retreat. Did you? In August.
Sharon: August one. Um, so yeah. Yeah. So then I did some of them, of course, I didn’t have the tools to keep going with the work. Um, and then I did some, um, max living flow. No, what was it? His, um, love your vibe. Yeah. The seven week course. Sorry Matt.
Guy: Right. So then you went on to do much yet.
Sharon: Yeah, yeah. And it was, and it was great. It was, it was so great and I did notice, um, changes, definitely. And that actually helped me with all this side, you know, the paying down, the numbness and the tingling all down the side that get got rid of all of that and all up the side of my face. And it’s massive. Yeah. It’s huge. Um, and, you know, and, but I couldn’t quite crack into my heart and you know, a lot of Matt’s work was about okay, you know, getting into your heart and the breathing. And that was quite, you know, he’d talk about it and I would just go, I don’t really know what that feels like or what that means. So, yeah. Did that and then finish that course. Um, and then I went through, I don’t know, I, you know, I, I just got, I just wasn’t in a bit of a mess because I had obviously gone back down again or gone into a diff, not a great space. And I, I had, well, I think I was at a job where I shouldn’t have been at this job. You know, all the signs were telling me that this isn’t the job for you.
Guy: There’s a lot of, there’s a lot of realization starting to bubble up to the surface, right. That we don’t usually see when we’re in a place of guilt, anger, frustration, whatever that might be from those States. They can kind of cloud other things. Cause then it becomes too big quite often.
Sharon: And it’s also those beliefs that you have, but you’ve got to work hard and you’ve got to sacrifice and to be able to succeed. But that’s what I had learned growing up. He said, that’s what you have to do. Um, but I didn’t notice those signs, Mmm. To say, you know, and, and I was a single mom with two kids and I didn’t have the confidence I guess, or the to go, okay, well I’m going to go find something else. But in the end it in the end. Um, anyway, I left that job and I left and, and you know, they were people that I had known for a long time as well. So I was leaving people that I knew and people that I, um, we’re friends with for years. So that was a big change for me. And that was quite scary. It was really scary. Mmm. And when I was on that break, because I just knew I had to take a break. So when I was on that break, that’s when I think Matt, there was a post that Matt had put up outside that there was a, a few spots left and I just went, why not? I’m just going to go to these. And it was, and it was that quick a decision where I just, wow, this is what I need to do. I need to do more work. And
Guy: so that would have been the first time you came across me and Petra. Then from that at the retreat, all three of us together and we were, you were you a w w can you take yourself back there at the time? Were you excited? Were you nervous? Were you had no idea, you were just open to whatever would come of it?
Sharon: Oh, I was super nervous. Yeah, I was definitely nervous. I didn’t know what it was going to be about and yeah, I was nervous and I was around people that I didn’t know. I’d never put myself in that sort of position. Um, so yeah. Yeah. So I was very nervous
Guy: cause I will never forget seeing you come out of, I think it was the second day with the sessions and you had the big shift and there’s more realizations coming in. Would you, would you be happy to share a little bit about sort of what you kind of experienced there?
Sharon: I think the first, um, um, I think one of the biggest things was to actually be able to access, get into my heart and understand what that felt like. And that was, that was a big, that was massive because that was like, I remember it being like, it was like this crack that came up in one of the meditations. Okay. And I could see the light.
Guy: Wow.
Sharon: Like I could actually say, and I’m not a very visual person, so, and I still, yeah. I still remember it to this day. So that was pretty amazing. Mmm.
Guy: And what did that teach you from that moment on?
Sharon: Mmm, I’m not sure. I don’t know. I never thought about that, but I just, but just the feeling of it to be able to access my heart and just, I guess to know what I had been missing. Like that was like the missing link. Yeah. Mmm. And then, um, another time where I was able to connect with my grandfather and that was just, that was amazing because it was like he led me to this place of just pure bliss and peace and serenity. Mmm. Yeah. It was, it was really incredible. So that was one.
Guy: Did you feel his presence? Did you see him? How did it come? Come about?
Sharon: It’s funny that you say that, cause my, I spoke to my mum about this afterwards and she said, but how did you know it was him? I said, I just knew it. I could feel his presence. I could just feel it. I didn’t see him. I could just feel it. And I knew it was him.
Guy: And it’s, it can be hard to explain to someone that’s not experienced that before, but when you’re in this environment and there’s a collective group energy that’s constantly raising over each day and our vibration is raising and we start to get beyond the mind and there’s a larger expansion part of ourselves that starts to connect with the expansive universe, if you like. That’s forever presence. And until you have that direct experience, it’s like trying, I always say it’s like trying to describe what it’s like drinking from a coffee shop in Spain. If you’ve never been to Spain before and you’re looking at a photograph, you never really, I barely get it. And there’s this knowing that this presence, this feeling, you know, in January I felt the presence of my dad turned up and my mom was, you know, in, in, cause we’d all in that, that vibration and space and it’s such a beautiful healing experience.
Sharon: Beautiful. Yeah. Did your mom, did your mom feel that as well? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. He was there for her for sure. Supporting that. It was incredible. Um, so you had that experience with your granddad and uh, can you remember what you took away from that when you came back? Uh, look, I think it was just that realization or that, that I think I always realized, I think I was always aware of it, but just that, yeah. What’s the word? Can’t quite think of it. Um, just that knowing that you know, that the energy doesn’t actually die. Their souls don’t just disappear, that they are still around, which is pretty powerful. And I know he helped me with, okay. The healing wow. It had done as well, like in that they’re there for you and can help to guide us as well. Yeah. That’s a huge realization.
Sharon: Yeah. And I’m, I’m more in tune with it now. Like I’ve had these moments, well I know it was around and he’s helped the boys with something and just knowing. But that’s what’s happened. Like really silly things. Like Finn was trying to start this, the lawn mower and he was trying so hard and he’d been trying for a day and a bit and I just had this sensation, sense of air and just going, just help him with it. I mean, he’ll get it, he’ll get it. And then he did. And it was like a little model that hadn’t started for a year.
Sharon: Yeah. Yeah. You’re open to seeing the synchronicities and the beauty of what life can give us. Right. When we’re in a different state, which is, which is what I think it’s all about, regardless whether people outside of this believe that or not, it doesn’t matter. What matters is how much joy is actually bringing into ourselves and then our lives and the meaning we take from it. Now I’m going to read out a a dot point you sent me earlier because we caught up in, um, Camden. Yes. The one day workshop, me and Matt did after the retreat and I know you, uh, it was a special day for you to come in and we asked people to share at the end and I was oblivious that you mentioned about it. I think it was a hip injury. Ah yeah. So that was what, so that was the next bit I was going to talk about because yeah, you’ve got shifting a 25 year old physical injury.
Sharon: Yeah. Yeah. That many treatments and lots of dollars couldn’t shift. Absolutely. That was the document that’s probably going to be the title of this podcast. Cause when I read that I’m like I want to know, so please explain. Yeah. So when I was 21 I was doing a full time course cause I was going to be a dancer. Wow. And I think I got through about three quarters of it and I couldn’t continue because I had the Mmm issue with my left lower back, like the sacrum joint there. And I couldn’t dance. Like I would try and I would and I couldn’t keep doing the cause. And the physio at the time said, Oh, you’ve got a six year old woman’s back. So that’s what he said. Um, yeah, I know. Lovely. Um, and then I saw lots of physios to try and relieve it.
Sharon: Physios, chiropractors, osteos, um, Mikey, um, practitioners. Um, and more recently in the last few years, a craniosacral therapist and I have spent so much money on it, like the osteo for example, it really flared up after I had my second child theme because at the time when ed passed away, we were four weeks pregnant. I probably didn’t mention that. We just found out we were pregnant. Wow. Yeah. So we were, um, yeah, so we were four weeks pregnant and so after, um, Finn was born, I just had so much issues with my, with my neck and I went to see these osteo who’d been recommended and he said, Oh, it’s down, like correctly. He did a great job and he correctly worked out that it was due to my left to my, that particular spot in my back. And I always, for 18 months that he tried to fix that and he was, he was kind of putting it into a place, but he thought it should be.
Sharon: But then obviously my body was just going, well, that’s not where it needs to be. But it was obviously, now I know it was obviously a holding. Yeah. And he was saying, I just need to unlock it. I just need to unlock it. I just need to unlock it. And in the end I just went, I got so frustrated because I would go for, I would see him, I’d be okay for about three days and then it would just an issue again. And I was in so much pain. Um, but, but that back had been a problem for a long time. You know, I would walk, go for walks and it would just seize up on me. And don’t be just standing there going, I’ll just going to let it pass. I’ve just gotta let it pass and, but that pain subside. So then, um, I think it was the last night of the retreat.
Sharon: Yeah. After the divine vibing session that we did with Matt. Um, and that was actually the time when I connected with my grandfather in that session. And it was so interesting because when I had placed myself in that room, I had placed myself next to probably the noisiest people in the Richmond. And I remember looking up, sitting up and just going, Oh, Sharon, what have you done? What have you done? Mmm. And, but I could hear them, but I just wasn’t going over there. It was like I would just went yet, I know you’re there and on here. And I just, you know, and I was just able to experience just the most incredible feeling and sensations. Mmm. Anyway, that night I was asleep and I’d woken up and I always wake up. I always wake up during the night and I’m wide awake and I thought, Oh, I’m just going to do.
Sharon: And of course when you’re in the retreat, you’re your body, you can feel the energy in your body and you can feel the energy you need different shock crossing. You can access it a lot more easily because you’re in that sort of environment. Right? So I just went, I tried to do some alternate nostril breathing and that didn’t work. And then I um, tried to sort of work with my shark crows and I, I got to a point where I almost had turned them, I could just feel all of them and I had all this energy like flowing through my body. I was wide awake, definitely wide awake. And then it was like, it was just this really beautiful moment where I heard this incredible sound outside. It was probably about three o’clock. So of course birds aren’t usually around at that time, but it was just this beautiful sound of like a, I don’t want to do it now because it might sounds funny, but it stand outside.
Sharon: I heard it outside, it was just like this bird, we saw this really long bird whistle and then I was like, what is that sound? And then I heard it again a little bit further away, but then it was like everything, you talked about synchronicity before, but everything was like synchronized my breath. And my roommate’s breath was all synchronized. Oh wow. That’s really cool. And then my heat just started moving and unwinding. Oh, it was the biggest shift. Everyone, anyone who had to come, or if my roommate had of looked at me, she would have gone, Oh, what is going on there? All right, good. So it was just unwinding and moving. And I think it had learned that from the treatments with the cranio psychotherapists cause it was similar sort of movements that unwinding. So it just, it was a bit like, I sort of liken it to when you popcorn and it sort of starts off slow and then it builds and builds and builds and then it starts to slow down again.
Sharon: And that’s what it was like. And it went on for a really long time. But I remember going, okay, this is kind of really strange but accepting as well because I had experienced it before. Um, and so then I turned over and I remember going, I remember towards the end of it, it just stretched out as long as it could possibly stretch out. I could feel this real stretching my whole internal body. And then I rolled over and just went, Oh my goodness, my back feels completely different. Like wow. Yeah. It was just so much looser and freer. Um, so that was, that was what happened. And then I was able to do, I’m able to do yoga so much better now too, because I can actually, rather than going, Oh, I can’t do that movement because I’m also difference or I can actually get in and do the movement from inside.
Guy: That’s my boyfriend. Yeah, it was crazy. That was crazy. Unbelievable. And so with all that going on and you come back and integrate the work into life, you know, cause like you said, we, we obviously experienced a lot more energy at the retreats. That’s the purpose of that. But we’re actually also creating new memory for the body, a new reference points. And I think that’s the really important bit. So as we come back down and integrate back into life, we’ve, there’s been shifts again, which of course changes our perception and changes the way we feel about ourselves and everything and our life around us. How has it been since, how is your life right now? Your relationship with the work, you know, you continue to do it, you continue to open up into it. Um, like things about like even trusting yourself more, trusting your intuition, trusting that there is something supporting, like where are you at with it all? Um,
Sharon: yeah, so, so now, um, I think I worked, so when I got, yeah, so when I got back it was, it was a bit of a S it was a bit, it was quite challenging when I got back because obviously my boys were in the same state as when I had left
Sharon: so I would have to go away, come into my room and meditate, you know, like a few times a day. And so I guess it was a little bit of escapism maybe, um, where I was just sort of taking myself away. I don’t know if that’s what it was, but I think maybe it was just getting used to it and [inaudible] just having to do that to take myself back to my heart. Um, and my heart, I’m my breath. That’s what I used to have to do. Um, and eventually it got to a point where I didn’t have to do that as much anymore. So aye took, I think I started to do your, you’ll your, your course, your four week course. And I remember, I remember being in the shower and I remember telling myself, being, telling myself this story, like going through this story and realizing at that point I keep myself in this state of grief by telling me these, telling myself these stories which are untreated.
Sharon: Like I know I wouldn’t be stopping at these crying at these stories. It’s pretty crazy. And now I don’t do that anymore because I had that realization of it was interesting cause I did it, I had that realization and then I went and did your course and I sat down to it and you did, it was the topic on homeostasis or something like that. And I was like, that’s what I’ve been doing. I think keeping my body in that state of grief. So of course from then on I just stopped those stories and um, that’s helped that, I mean that’s my, that’s been a massive shift in, in, in, you know, in the work in the grief state that I had been in. Um, what else? I’ve gotten into a lot more to do with the breasts and that’s been really, I’m very lucky because I then signed up to do my yoga teacher training and I’m doing it through [inaudible] and it’s not just about the yoga.
Sharon: They go into the breath and the energy systems and the shock pose. Um, and they take the breath into the really basic of just being aware of your breath, which is something I couldn’t, could never do. Um, I would always be controlling it because I didn’t know how to just be the observer and allow my breath to do what it was doing and the awareness of what my breath breath was doing in my body was a big realization as well. Cause you can really feel where all the blockages were. Like I could feel that I couldn’t breathing to them. I wasn’t breathing into the right side of my chest and I could right lung and I could feel that it was really, um, it wasn’t smooth. Like my breath wasn’t smooth when it was coming out. So there has been a lot, I have learned [inaudible] in the breath work to do with breath work. And that’s been, you know, that’s been amazing. The breath work.
Guy: Yeah. It’s, it’s powerful. Absolutely. And they teach you to really start to reconnect to yourself and bring awareness to two areas that we probably disassociate ourselves with because of the grief, the pain, the pain, the traumas or whatever it is that we’ve been, we’ve been holding. Yeah. But then that the breath can really start to allow us to help us to shift through things.
Sharon: No, absolutely. Yeah. And, and yeah, the breath is incredibly powerful. So, um, really came to do more in that way, but I liked to do more gentle kind of breath work.
Guy: Yeah, of course. I totally, I get that too. There’s a time and a place for everything. I’m the first one to put my hand up for that, you know, because it can be very powerful. And um, yeah, you gotta be very mindful when we’re working with the breath. And I just wanted to raise one last point on the, um, on the show Sharon. Cause uh, I loved it when you, cause you write about your, how you feel excited and inspired about life and actually want to live. Absolutely. I think that’s just such an important highlight cause even in the space, this podcast, knowing what you’ve been through, uh, you know, and the, the grief and everything that only ha, you know, so much pain would have been to be in this place now. And I think that’s a great reflection and testimony to yourself and really trusting and leaning in to the work and to keep going. Right?
Sharon: Yeah. I look just doing the extra work that you guys have got on offer and taking up that I’ve, it’s made a huge difference. And whilst before I was, you know, worried about losing friends, I’ve gained so many more friends, you know, in that and, and, and to be able to just change, I now I’ve been able to change what’s been going on in here. I’ve been able to work with what’s going on in my body first. And that’s amazing. There’s so much awareness that I have, you know, a situation might come up and I will feel it in my body and I’ll just go, okay, something’s not right there. Or, you know, and then I’ll do some breathing and I’m aware that something’s not working. So my body’s telling me if something’s no the right path. Yes. But in saying that, it also tells me when, when something’s right and something really, you know, really, um, resonates with it because it will, I can feel the energy kind of get quite excited and it’s like, Oh, I love this. So exciting.
Guy: Yeah. And then that, that’s a beautiful point because then it inspires you to have the courage to lean into the unknown and take steps beyond things that you probably wouldn’t normally do if we saw it disconnected from ourselves. You know, and that’s where I draw strength from on a daily basis is really trusting that and trusting that power, that knowingness that’s ever present. But we just need to be able to um, be aware of it more at the end of that day. And I just want to touch on one other point because I think the most important, one of the most beautiful things that comes from go into the retreats and I’m being involved in the community is, is the people that you meet along the way. Like I think that’s quite often something we don’t think about when we go into them. Cause we saw fixated on our problems and our things and we just want to move stuff and to get, but the beautiful components of coming around likeminded people and we realize we’ve all got shit, we’re all the same in certain levels. But then you nurture and you go through experiences together like that. And I feel like I know people better in some respects and I have them for many years because of the things that you’ve shared and done from that, then you have truth, true friendships that allow you then to support you to when life keeps, you know, life doesn’t get any easier, you know? Yeah. You know, which has been amazing.
Sharon: Yeah. I mean we connect, I connect this, I’ve done Pinterest work as well and we’ve got this beautiful group that we connect with it. And I just feel like it’s a space where you can say every anything and everything and it’s a nonjudgmental, safe space, you know, it’s just beautiful. So, um, I love, we still connect them quite regularly. So, and I think, I think the biggest thing about this work is that it’s actually allowed me to be a more empathetic, a better person, like a more empathetic kind person and you know, more importantly, a parent, my children, and just, you know, it’s, it’s where I know, you know, and I’m excited to do more of it because I’ve got a lot still long way to go.
Guy: Well, we all do that. I think that the moment you think you’ve got in the bag is the moment you’re going to really question yourself. You know, I’ve been doing the work for a long time now. I still still blows my mind, the things that can happen on the things that unveil and I have to constantly grow. We’re all growing. If you’re not growing, you’re dying. And I think that’s part of life, part of evolution. So, you know, I made it, I made up my mind a long time ago and just go, you know what I mean? I’m going all in, I’m in it for the right man. That’s, let’s see where this adventure takes us.
Sharon: Yeah. And you’ve got to have those challenges. To be out. To keep growing, I think and keep evolving to.
Guy: Totally.
Sharon: That’s how, I mean, that’s how I feel.
Sharon: Yeah.
Guy: A hundred percent. There has to be some resistance to, for growth, you know. Um, I’ve got one question for you to wrap this podcast up, Sharon, and that is, is there anything you’d like to share to leave our listeners to ponder on over everything we’ve covered today?
Sharon: Oh wow. Um, I just, just how important this sort of work is. I mean we work on the outside of out, outside. We have showers every day and we keep out, you know, and keep ourselves clean in that. But it’s so important to do the inside work. Mmm. And work on that every day. That’s how I would say it. Yeah.
Guy: Beautiful. Yes. Sharon, thank you so much for coming on the podcast today and sharing from the heart. Your story’s incredible and you’ve, you know, you’ve inspired me. You’re, you’ll inspire many of listeners today. So I just want to know that I really appreciate, uh, yeah, everything that you’re doing and being here to share. So thank you.
Sharon: Thank you. Guy. Thanks for having me on the podcast.
Guy: You’re welcome.