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Guy 00:01
Then we’d love to still be live. Which I hit the goal. Oh, yes. Coming down here.

Matt 00:07
Is it already there?

Guy 00:09
Hang on. Let me just hit the go live button. I think my video is starting. Drumroll, please. We are now using technology to its maximum. We are streaming to our Facebook Live in flow community group and recording a podcast at the same time. How good time

Matt 00:37
you’re multitasking? Might you become well adept at the the podcast reality.

Guy 00:42
Exactly. Well, welcome back to the podcast, mate.

Matt 00:45
Thanks, man. It’s becoming my second home.

Guy 00:50
There’s just before we get into today’s topic, which I’m excited about, because it’s something that we we are very passionate about is it’s Monday morning, I hope you firing. You’ve already caffeine.

Matt 01:04
Yeah, there’s a couple, couple hamsters running on wheels inside of here.

Guy 01:10
And now it’s great, I really enjoy your conversations. And today we decided to talk about the heart to happiness. And the heart being an acronym with a double T on the end here g AR, t t, because we can decide on the T’s at the end. But we run out, we run our workshops from these guiding principles and our retreats. And we normally spend a bit of time breaking it down and interacting with people as we do it. But at the moment, it’s just you and I so shall we start five any final words on the heart before we jump in?

Matt 01:52
No. Just draw drove like it is. Let’s get into it. So we got the the H, H depends on what part of the world you’re from how you say that?

Guy 02:09
Yeah. Hmm. And the H would normally say Well, what do you think it is right now? And they’re getting to the heart of Rome and hate is humility. Yes, humility. And what does humility bring up for you? And why did it make the cut for the Hage?

Matt 02:30
I think within the first thing that comes to mind with humility is that it creates a space for listening. I think a lot of times we, we come into a place where, well, I’ll just speak for myself, I don’t know what’s going on for everybody else. But I can get into a place where I feel like I know no shit, right? And, and the ego kind of takes hold of this knowing and wanting to know and wanting to be right and self righteousness. And then within that there’s not much space for anybody else to exist. And I find that really impacts relationships and impacts work impacts my ability to do my work. In fact, I have to have a huge sense of humility in the work that I facilitate. Because it’s it’s basically just the listening and, and creating a space for people to then actually meet me. And so I feel like if I have an idea of what’s supposed to happen in life, or in work or in relationships, and then I don’t have a place of listening, I don’t have a place of actual communication or connection to at the end of the day. So that was the first thing that came to mind. I never said it in that way before. When I think of humility.

Guy 03:41
Yeah, for me, it’s a big part of is bringing in a beginner’s mind, and bring it into that aspect. And it’s one thing that’s really served me as I’ve gotten older, having a beginner’s mind, and trying not to judge or bring my perception and beliefs into aspects that I can quite easily take for granted after a while, you know, the, at the end of the day, if we’d only been exposed the same same amount of people, same amount of information, same amount of TV stations or Netflix channels or podcasts or news quite quickly we have this lens of life of which we start to live from and it becomes unconscious, we’re not even aware of it. And then you just need someone to come along that’s outside of that realm. You know, and and say something different than we might not even be aware of the fact that we could be completely wrong about certain things that we’ve just assumed to be true. And and I think it’s the it’s one of the big formulas for change and to to at the end of day, the heart to happiness being that’s what ultimately we want, right and you know, is that Great saying Would you rather be right? Or happy. And I believe, quite often, we defend our righteousness, I find myself getting defensive. You know, even if Linda likes picking me up on things that are, you know, challenging my beliefs and you know, and it’s easy to go and it’s and humility brings it back to that. And the one last thing I want to say on this as well, is the podcast has really taught me humility, as well, and being open and just trying to bring an open mind to conversations and not try to, I guess, put my stuff in it too much and be a really good listener. Like I’ve been doing it for eight years. And it certainly taught me a lot of humility as well. And I find some of the best conversations and some of the leading experts that I spoke to the ones that I resonate with most come from a place of humility, which is a big lesson as well. So

Matt 05:58
yeah, yeah, huge. As you’re talking, it just kind of sparks this concept that, you know, with humility, you, you create possibility or potential, whereas in righteousness, you’re kind of, you’re locked in. And you can fight that to your death. You’ll be right, maybe, but only in your mind. Yeah. And limited to, to the possibility and the expanse that’s, that’s out there. So, to me, that’s not very happy.

Guy 06:29
Absolutely, absolutely. Yeah. limiting yourself. Right. So should we move on to the E?

Matt 06:37
Okay.

Guy 06:38
Yeah,

Matt 06:39
yes, let’s do the E. So we lean into empathy.

Guy 06:43
Hmm.

Matt 06:47
Oh, everything goes right along with humility. So when you’re in that place of being open, and trying to, to understand other people’s points of view, to lean into that, you know, into, yeah, be understanding, I’m just trying to think of a story, you’ve got any stories around there that relate to the power of empathy and bringing more happiness into your life?

Guy 07:15
Well, to me, empathy, leans into compassion, but, but also as having compassion for oneself. And I think the more we we go through life’s experiences, the more we can actually place ourselves in other people’s circumstances without actually the judgments and look beyond the initial surface reactions or responses that we get from people just because of the way they dress, or the way they speak. Everything that’s there, and there’s, we can miss the beauty in the person because we’ve already poured our judgments on top of it. And I find compassion is a really great place to cut through all that. But I always remember working when, you know, when I used to have 180 nutrition, and when I was a fitness trainer, and just kind of when I was working with people that had cancer, when I was doing the weight training programmes I was remember the the charity would say, there’s a big difference between sympathy and empathy. And it’s empathy that we’re after an empathy is like a very, I kind of look at it now as like a very constructive, supporting way of moving forward with safety and care, to allow people to grow. But from a place of empathy, where sympathy we can, we can give people sympathy all the time. But is that actually going to help resolve the circumstances or change moving forward? So I often sort of, kind of think about empathy now from that perspective, where I think like I sympathise with you, I really feel for you, but we can’t change your current circumstances, looking at it or behave in the same way. So from this point forward, how can we have empathy for oneself, but actually start to take step forwards to create whatever change that is. So for me, that’s what empathy really stands out to be. And we can have empathy for ourselves, have compassion for ourselves, but most importantly, accepting it, acknowledging it, but then moving forward, supporting yourself with it, you know, and it’s not to beat yourself up. And, you know, because we all make mistakes, we all do different things wrong. And, and the one thing I’m sure you’d agree on with this work is that as we dive into it, we become more aware, and we can quite easily become more aware of the things, the mistakes we’ve made in the past. But we’re not that person five years ago, or 10 years ago, and that’s where we really need to hold empathy to acknowledge and accept that but then big learned to let that go as we move forward in our life.

Matt 10:00
Yeah, 100% empathy creates a momentum. It’s like the sympathy I feel like, because what comes to mind is thinking of sympathetic resonance with like tuning forks, or you know, musical notes, I have something that’s in the same note, like two tuning forks in front of you, and then you paying one, and you put it next to the one that’s in the same frequency, it will start to vibrate or start to resonate. And that to me is sympathy sympathetic resonance is that you start to encourage that, that tuning fork to move into that same vibration that is surrounded by because it’s in that, that frequency. And so if we go into sympathy with someone else, it’s and then we meet them in that same place where the problem is, and it’s like, it’s not doing anybody good, then we’re both in the frickin shitstorm. And so, it’s like, I feel I feel so bad that you are, you know, in that horrible position, you’re like, let me come there and be in it with you. And then we’re both stuck. And when we don’t have a life raft, and we can’t get out. So empathy then is, is an acceptance of what is but actually holding your foundation in what is possible. And, and so it’s, it’s a small semantic, I think empathy and sympathy can be used interchangeably quite a lot. But it’s a huge difference of, you know, accepting and being understanding of other people and yourself. But knowing that there was something greater and a possibility for you to move beyond that, like he said, so crumble to happiness. Hey,

Guy 11:35
I love this man. You’ve actually no use two new analogies today that with the H and the the e

Matt 11:43
must be something in the air. Is this those two hamsters running in my head?

Guy 11:49
Yeah, no, that makes perfect sense. I love the analogy that you

Matt 11:54
were going down compassion, mate, you almost changed heart. A cart like different acronym.

Guy 12:01
I know I want to pack on the back. Yeah, no, we should record podcast Monday morning more often. I think. You know, fire.

Matt 12:10
So we want to the A, we got we got to have six happening right now. Oh, wow. All right. Hey,

Guy 12:18
it’s smack bang in the middle. Right. And it’s

Matt 12:20
probably the most well, it was in the middle until we added an extra t wasn’t it? Yeah. Okay. Who’s the tea? I guess the tea is can be on the same level just side by side. Absolutely. All right. So it’s in the middle. Hey,

Guy 12:38
awareness. Awareness.

Matt 12:41
Well, what do you say to that?

Guy 12:46
I No, say no more. Let’s move on. Wow, awareness. Well, it all starts with awareness. It’s it’s what the Yogi’s and the ancients. Everyone’s talked about this for, you know, since we’ve ever been human beings, I think it’s to truly become aware. And awareness today as well. Not only means I am now aware, there’s a water bottle next to me, or I’m now aware there’s a spider crawling up the wall, like there was last week. Yeah, you know, where before I wasn’t, and the moment we put awareness onto it, then our whole being is now it’s in now in our conscious mind, right? But awareness is huge. Well, it is the essence of everything that we do, right. And, to me, it’s about being the observer being the witness being the watcher. And it’s that aspect of ourselves that if we can think about our thoughts, and who’s doing the thinking in the first place, or thinking about our thoughts, you know, and that’s us, that’s consciousness. That’s if consciousness is awareness at the end of the day, you know, that seems to be the theme that comes from my podcast. So it really is connecting to who we really are. Yeah, and who is the essence of us. And as we become aware, and also becoming aware beyond our five sensory experiences, to me, that’s a huge part of awareness. So it’s not only becoming aware of our, you know, programmes, our conditioning our beliefs, or, you know, the fact that somebody might pick you up because you’re always talking ill of someone or putting someone down, it’s because you know what, actually, and you don’t, you’re not even aware you’re doing it, you just do it, because it’s been a bitchu ated. for such a long time. You know, there’s so many aspects of ourselves that we can become aware of. And quite often, we don’t like what we find, but the fact that we find them as then we have the ability to look at them, reflect on them, work with them, and ultimately change them to become a better expression of ourselves as we have the human experience. So there’s all that aspect to awareness, but like for me A big part of it now is becoming like you say aware beyond the five senses, and allowing, I guess a greater relationship to what is. And that’s to me is creation to source the subtle energy to something far beyond us. But we really have to come back to ourselves, come back to the silence, come back to giving ourselves the time to to nurture that practice. And there’s a knowing and a knowledge that starts to come through that aspect of ourselves. That is beyond words. And as we become more aware of that, boy, does life become more interesting.

Matt 15:46
For Yeah, now that you sparked a lot in that, that little monologue there. Yeah, cuz I, the first thing that comes to mind, is it, you know, that’s the thing, you don’t know what you don’t know. Right? And it and it seems like, that’s the tire work of the worker, that’s the entire point of life, I think, in essence is is, is discovery is learning about ourselves. And if, and then I think if you could take that self, and expand it into Well, what is the self, and we tend to say, well, the self is my body, or the top of my mind, or the self is the roles that I play in my life, then we only dance in those realms. But if we open our minds in the capacity of who we are to eternal consciousness, let’s say, then, then we are infinite. And then that journey to discovery and awareness is is never ending. And, and then we can actually choose where do we want to navigate that? That focal point? And we can, you know, it’s like, your mate that was on the podcast the other day about the the woowoo book, he

Guy 17:09
wrote the book, Dr. David Hamilton,

Matt 17:11
right. I keep going back to that because in there, he was saying about, you know, you just, there’s, what’s it there’s a multi dimensional reality of like, turning a page in a book? Yeah, just turn a page in the book, like where do you Where do you want to be in this moment, it’s a choice point, you can focus your energy and your awareness into any page of a book, just turn the page. So Oh, that’s just really landed for me. And that’s, that’s what I feel awarenesses is like, because because in essence, we’re our focal point is, is what we’re, we’re then perpetuated in our lives. And that’s the reality that we’re actually then investing in. And so, for me right now, like, with the way the world has been, in the last 18 months, I’ve found my sense of, of, of balance up up levelled and topsy turvy a lot of the time, and it’s like, well, and then gets stuck in in that imbalance. And then that lack of awareness of what I’m actually perpetuating me because I’m so inundated with information and stuff that’s really not in alignment with what I believe or true to me, then I lose myself. And so it’s, it’s hopeful and exciting to to to brings great happiness in me to know that shit. In this moment, I can actually choose to focus my attention elsewhere, and then start to perpetuate a different state within myself, that then ultimately creates a different reality and a different life for me, not even just in my emotional state in my mental state. But literally, that translates into the physical reality that’s around us. I mean, I just dropped on the world bucket, then I know it’s massive. It’s huge. And that that all stems from awareness. And so anything that we actually lean into with this work is at the foundation is the awareness and where do you want to focus it? And are you in command of that, I guess, is the bottom line? Because we can be aware that we’re aware that we’re doing stupid shit, but then actually, do you have the capacity to move from there? And that then leads into the next letter of the acronym? Yeah,

Guy 17:20
yeah. And I just want to add on that briefly, because because at the end of the day, we were so conditioned to be moving in a linear timeframe we’re so conditioned to from point A to point B, we check the clocks we check the you know, we got meetings and everything seems to be moving across, and we get lowered into the disillusion of, then happiness is outside of ourselves because we then we are then going trying to get the point B, which is a linear way of thinking, to get to that desk elusive destination that is then going to generate me more happiness. But every time we we accomplish and succeed that we’re on to the next thing and not acknowledging ourselves that we are where For me, being truly aware it’s been truly present and getting beyond that. linear way of being and thinking, and then that comes back into being fully present back into infinite choice. and realise in happiness is a state of being. It’s not that destination. And that’s where you get the state of being all starts with awareness.

Matt 20:19
Yeah, well that’s, that’s exactly the result of awareness is is a state of being, instead of a state of doing. We tend to have a lack of awareness and then do and then do more like shit. Everything’s still fucked. I got to do more. It’s like, what? Not just just stop and be aware.

Guy 20:37
Exactly, exactly. The cliche, right? It’s just That’s it? Yes. Yeah. And, and I flirt with this more and more. And this because of my daughter, Ava, because since Ava’s been in Europe been a very hands on dyad, with, you know, exchanging with Linda taking time and stuff, and I’ve, like, my, my work time is completely like half if not more, in terms of productivity for work. But at the same time, it’s made me focus on more of what can I do that’s more productive in the shorter term. And there’s a way then of me having to surrender to a way of being and becoming more aware. So it’s actually allowing me to push the boundaries of, can I just be in this moment right now? Why do I have to be chasing this right now? Why have I got to be over there? hustling now? or whatever? Can I just let it go and be here now. And my outside world hasn’t changed, much like the expansion and the growth and all the things are still there are happening anyway. So it’s like, wow, how much of that cut out of lack of five years ago? Then ever same outcome 10 years ago, as opposed to this busy bit up? Do you know, I mean, yeah, crazy.

Matt 21:52
Yeah, I get the image of like, you know, like the, the dog on a chain. And it’s like, that’s changed state in the middle of the yard. And you can see the grass is worn down the circle around it. What happened there, that’s kind of like us, so we just run around and just wore out this little circle of reality, and we can actually just unhook the lead. Yeah. And

Guy 22:13
somebody will learn hockey one day, and it’s like, are you gonna step outside the circle now? Or are you just gonna stay

Matt 22:21
with and again, we’re leaning into the art way so that we our responsibility is then we do have the keys. We do have the opportunity at any, any point to turn the page of reality within us. Be happy, right? You hear that phrase about happiness into about? I don’t know, it’s right on the tip of my tongue, but I can’t remember it. So I just thought I’d throw it to you.

Guy 22:45
I don’t know. There’s so many.

Matt 22:47
I know. There’s so

Guy 22:49
many responsibility.

Matt 22:52
I know what it is, is that it was you said it in the podcast with with Saje Dyer about the stick and the child playing with the stick. Remember,

Guy 23:07
that literally they you don’t see a kid. Get excited. Like the kid brings joy to the stick? They say yeah, we could pick a stick and I never get joy from it. Because Same for kid but it’s because they are joy. Yeah, bring enjoy.

Matt 23:22
Yeah, so we all that’s what I’m trying to get, I always have a choice point. And we can, it’s not about something to make us happy the external community, it’s that you bring happiness to the world around you. And that stemmed from these tenets. These these aspects. Yeah. And we ended up sponsibility

Guy 23:39
Yeah, exactly. 100% responsibility. And for me, that that rings true, and that’s about to, I guess, let go the stories, you know, and it after a while, it can highlight a lot of things that we we might have hung on to dearly as part of our identity. But yet we’ve we’ve never explored it and and while we hang on to those things, we can actually lay blame. And lay blame, blame can often create anger, frustration, guilt, shame, and they’re all deliberate, debilitating emotions. And while we kind of stuck in them, they are there to serve us for a certain time. It’s not to say not to acknowledge them. But there’s only so much we can stay in that state before we have to accept, take responsibility for ourselves in our actions and move forward. You know, and I think it can be very difficult, we can be very unaware of it. And but it also allows us to really come from a place that is very freeing, once we own it. And then if I’m responsible for all my own actions and my decisions and choices, then I don’t Need to lean into other people to tell me what to do and to, to go, this is what I think you should do because then you’re imposing beliefs on somebody once person’s belief on somebody else. And quite often that that can be, then to fulfil ourselves because we’re unsure within ourselves. That’s what we end up model imposing beliefs. So for me, really taking responsibility is is been very freeing in my life. Because I did carry a lot of blame. I used to blame the government was my big one, for a lot of things, and the structure and I was very rebellious in a kind way, I’ve never been a unkind person, but I just tried to buck the system, and then realise one day, I have to actually take responsibility because I was blaming, this is ridiculous, why do people have jobs? Why do people have mortgages to get into it? You know, like, no, that’s, we’ve all got our individual reality that we all living here, fucking own it, and work with it, and make a life that you want. But a lot of those elements, which I couldn’t see at the time, were actually stopping me from getting to the very things that I wanted. So we’re in the face

Matt 26:16
100% as you’re talking, I think, for me, responsibility responsibility got drilled into me as a kid, and it’s like, you know, take responsibility, and it was like, cleaning the house cleaning room, do you? Oh, yeah, the chores kind of thing. And it’s like this, the task orientated kind of sense of responsibility, you know, get a, get a degree, get a job, that kind of stuff. And it’s like, and so it was, like, for a long time, that’s where I thought responsibility lied. And, and, and I struggled over the years with undiagnosed depression. And, and we get really deep and dark at times, and really deflated and unmotivated. And. And it wasn’t until I started to realise that responsibility does have to be an action, it can be a state of being as well. And that taking responsibility for my state of being was what was a game changer, and catching those thoughts that create that downward spiral of feeling heavy, depressed, and hopeless, and, like, I had no way out. And so it was owning my mental aspect, taking responsibility for that, that then allow me then to move in a more responsible way in my life. That makes sense. Does. Yeah, inner responsibility, I think is just as important as an external, is massive.

Guy 27:41
And then we see that when when, like, what we find is the people that come to our retreats, mainly, you know, have taken responsibility, and they’re ready to take action and step into that. You know, I remember when I decided that I wanted to change and started to own it, I would then eat my way into thinking, Oh, shit, what’s this gonna unveil now? What’s this gonna face and get quite scared about it all, but at the same time, really? acts while it leans into our pillars. There’s now I’m going off on tangents now. I know. I know. But, yeah, it’s a big one. I’ll just say that.

Matt 28:25
100% Yeah.

Guy 28:27
So T. First here, the T t,

Matt 28:31
this is where our opinions split. And we had to have to tease because we couldn’t just resolve it. Told nada, we want to know,

Guy 28:40
you know, both both are very valid, you know,

Matt 28:42
yeah, I never said

Guy 28:46
Go for it.

Matt 28:48
No, all right. My mighty that I was holding on to is was trust. Yes. For me, trust is, is critical for, for happiness in that you. Because Because it’s like a lot of letting go of control. And that, you know, when I when I was in a place of not trusting and then I would have to really grind my teeth a lot at night and really have like a clenched jaw because it was and I discovered over the years trying to resolve that tension within my jaw was was this is a will force area in my body. And then I would hold and clench because I didn’t have that connection to, to a trust to knowing that everything’s going to work out. Everything’s unfolding exactly as it needs to kind of concept. And so I would overcompensate for that lack of trust within me from a place of will and I’ve got to make this happen. If I don’t do it, nothing’s going to get done those types of beliefs. And so, it was through the work and through opening my awareness and my consciousness to a greater capacity within myself in a larger part of myself that I started to, you know, through synchronicities, and through different events in my life realise that there’s a lot going on that is beyond my control, and then I actually don’t have to have as much control number one, or have to be in as much control as I think that I do. And then that’s always a constant battle because I’m such a control freak, right? in the way that I organised the chairs that

Guy 30:26
I didn’t say that

Matt 30:29
this, you know, the gong has to go here and that, you know, you’re off one mill and like that, what the hell’s wrong, something like that right? Now, but then it was, so that was a big thing for me is trusting and just letting go of the control, because then it frees me up. And again, like I said earlier, it creates more possibility and more potential for something more than I know, to emerge through me, which a lot of times is debate better, more effective route than where I think that I need to go?

Guy 30:55
Yeah, 100%. And what that triggered me the thought was basically is how much energy that consumes. So so if we, if we if we constantly unconsciously, or consciously trying to control everything, and not having a certain element passing and surrender to it, because that controls an illusion, anyway, really, then then we are we can quite easily be ruminating, we can be firing those thoughts, we can be creating those emotional states that they that are keeping us stuck. And all that energy is getting wasted, you will become like leaky buckets. And then as opposed to using that energy to slowly channel into what it is our true intention and what our hearts desires are, and to come from a place of creation. And when you’re not coming from that place, you’re coming from less fear. And then you start making decisions that are based upon passion and inspiration, as opposed to fear and scarcity. And, and then massive, and it can be a real grapple. And it allows you to be more present, if you can be more trusted, and try not to control and question everything. Yeah,

Matt 32:14
the said the F word might fear that. It’s so prevalent in our in the human condition, isn’t it to Yeah, to react from that place of fear? And, yeah, and that’s a contraction. So it’s a closing down? Absolutely. Yeah, for sure.

Guy 32:32
And the last T is truth. Truth.

Matt 32:38
Truth.

Guy 32:38
Yeah. And for me, I wanted this in there. It’s a big one. Because to me, truth wrapper represents coming from the heart. And if you listen to your heart, and create a relationship with your heart, and that way of knowing that knowing that’s ever present, then the they say the truth will set you free. So I think looking back a lot in my life, I I struggled and had pain, because I wasn’t will I just had so many beliefs in the way that were weren’t allowing my truth to express itself through. And I think I’d conditioned myself a lot. Well, I didn’t I mean society, it’s just human nature, but I’d lost the essence of who I was, never really found them, you know, they say, the first seven years, you know, the biggest impression of who you’re going to become as an adult. And this work obviously allows us to start to pull back the layers to get back to that essence of who we are. And for me, I have a lot less drama in my life these days, because I kind of come from my truth. And I want to and I want to stick to my values and my principles and keep it simple. But but ultimately honour what’s true and what’s right for me. And, and I make decisions from that place. Like if it’s not a hell, yes. is normally a no these days. Because, you know, so eradicate a lot of unnecessary pain I find. But the difficulty is, is that if we have strayed a long way from our truth, it can feel really hard to look there. You know, and we will it can be a scary place to be but obviously it’s it’s actually not that bad when you get to know yourself a bit more and let the truth of you shine through. So

Matt 34:48
yeah, so I’ve heard that differently for the first time. I think the way you just explained it, it’s maybe I was maybe I was in place at acceptance for the first time. Instead of fighting you, but now it feels like authenticity is what you’re leaning into the truth and and it’s interesting you say that it’s like, if you’re not used to doing that you stray far from it, then it might be hard to come back to that. And the, I think with how do I say this, it’s um, the truth of who we are the the authentic part of ourselves is unique, right? There’s no other, that truth doesn’t exist anywhere else other than within yourself. And that’s only you that’s going to have that truth. And somebody else might be similar, but different, it’s always going to be different. And so in that is a fear. I think that that clashes with our basic native connection, and being part of the tribe, right, and so to stand in our truth, at times, could feel like we’re then not part of the tribe. But the funny thing is, and this is what I’ve discovered, I think I made a joke. And one of the, one of the events is that I felt like I never fit in in life. And then I realised I don’t give a shit if I don’t fit in and I capitalise on that not fitting. That’s how I made a career. So but that’s what it’s like, it’s like, you got to take that leap. And, and in the end, it’s actually the only reason that we’re here is to allow that, that law consciousness allow life to move in that unique way that only we can. And when we do that, then life starts to flow. And true happiness can fail, you’re never going to be happy if you’re not aligned with yourself, because how could you be you’re just not there. So and I think that’s really come into play in the last 18 months is, is what’s, what’s my resolve in the truth of who I am? And can I maintain that, even though there’s a lot of noise going on of certain opinions that might not resonate with my truth?

Guy 37:01
Yeah. But it will start to highlight everything, you know, if there’s unaddressed things in your relationship, if there’s unaddressed things in your work, you know, if we’re not truthful, or being true, then it only needs a crisis of some or pressure or an external pressure or circumstance to then start to lift a mirror up and say, Okay, now you got to look at you, you got to face your truth.

Matt 37:29
That’s it. And that’s it, isn’t it? blaming the volume in the external is say, Oh, this is the reason that I’m not happy, but it’s all what is it highlighting what’s underneath that? external, that’s causing the trigger of the response of lack of happiness or absolute,

Guy 37:44
which leads back into responsibility? Yeah, getting to the heart of it all. Which is, which is so important, you know, and it’s something that I certainly try and work on. It’s a practice. You know, it’s definitely a practice. I’m certainly get it wrong, often, but I do remind myself of it as well, you know,

Matt 38:10
absolutely.

Guy 38:12
Is there anything last moment? So quick recap of the heart. So we got H, humility, E. Empathy, a awareness. Ah, responsibility. T. Trust. T. Truth.

Matt 38:30
Exactly. Beautiful, huge. Game Changer there.

Guy 38:35
Yeah. I hope you enjoy the podcast today, everyone, wherever you’re listening to this in the world. And hopefully, we will get to meet you in person someday soon. If you want to get to the heart of it all. Come along, join us. We will we we may go deep, but it’s powerful stuff. Very effective. And we love it and it’s going to be amazing to get back in front of human beings after such a lockdown. Yeah, so we’re going to wear so it’s October the 25th. Monday, October 25. listening to this you might be listening to this in the future. Who knows when you’re listening? But we got Newcastle coming up to me half day workshop December 1. Yeah. There we go. And

Matt 39:20
then rolling into the new year and kicking off the retreat again.

Guy 39:25
Yeah, so we got the five night retreat in northern New South Wales five nights. We’re very excited. First time we run five nights. It’s about half full, close to half full at the moment, so come along. If you’re ready, take next step.

Matt 39:44
Thanks, man.

Guy 39:45
Always a pleasure mate. Till the next time Thanks. See ya. Bye