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Bonnie: So our lives are about waking up. It’s about the soul evolving. Everyone can relate to not feeling completely free, not completely liberated. The heart’s not fully open and we’re hiding who we are guy. We’re almost being forced to face what’s in the frequency of the life that’s presenting on the planet and also the planet itself is shifting and changing.

And what’s happened is. Whatever is not love is gonna come to the surface. Is there then another physical me somewhere else right now? I can see you. You guide the frequency of you, your consciousness. Yes, you’re in many places. 

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Bonnie, welcome to the podcast. Ah, thank you guy. Really happy to be here. It’s, it is been lovely chatting to you off air as well, and I, it’s quite funny when I meet somebody like yourself and then we get chatting, it’s like, oh my God, there’s so much great information. Quick, let’s get in the podcast, you know, before we hit, we call.

So I’m, I’m looking forward to diving into and, um, covering so many things of what I find absolutely fascinating. Mm-hmm. With yourself today. I ask everyone on the show though, and if you were just. Sitting next to a complete stranger on an airplane or a dinner party, and they lent over and said, oh, what do you do?[00:02:00]

What would you say? Well, what I do say is I try to keep it easy, you know, because what I do is really out there. It can be seemingly, but basically what I do is I work with energy, the unseen world, the unseen realms. And what I do is to help clear foreign energy that doesn’t belong in someone’s space. And it actually creates different shifts and changes in their, their wellbeing, their emotions, their thoughts, their, their lives, their beliefs, everything.

So it’s an energy work, basically. It’s a lot of shamanic work is involved, you know, obviously you’re moving energy shamanism. Um, and it just, uh, uh, a modality that I’ve created. In my life that is very quick and fast and, you know, track being able to track energy, um, things that don’t belong, things that are not you basically.

So I, I find the whole world of energy fascinating. [00:03:00] And, and listening to you just even reply to that, like, because in my. Growing up, it never even occurred to me. There’s an energetic aspect to ourselves. Like everything was just physical realm. Physical being mm-hmm. Physical person. Mm-hmm. And just completely, I guess there was an innate part of me that was always connected, but I never really understood it or was encouraged to nurture it or, mm-hmm.

And then my lifestyle continued to remove me from it. I’m curious, what are your thoughts? How much does that energetic side affect our. Wellbeing a reality. Our life, considering we as Westerners, we don’t even give credence to it, really. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I know this is, people aren’t gonna like to hear this, but it’s prob, I mean, realistically on the energy realms.

You are affected almost like a hundred percent by the frequencies that are in your space that don’t belong there, uh, carryovers from past incarnations, [00:04:00] um, all the different, uh, types of energies that are affecting your thoughts, your, your, uh, reactions. Um, I would say. Personally, I think it’s everything is affected by that because even, even when we have like an emotion that is an energy frequency, but where’s it coming from?

See, that’s my point. Everything’s coming from some other, some other experience sometime in your life stream. Most everything doesn’t really begin here. So you’re coming into this world and you’re carrying all this, I call it, so imprint energies of things that you need. Or completed or never knew thyself in, and, and so you have all this energy and then what you’re doing is that energy is attracting things to you, opportunity, I call it opportunities that are going to activate this deep energy and conscious energy so that you have another opportunity to, to get through that, move through that be done with that particular experience.

Bonnie: So our lives are about waking up. It’s, for me, it’s about the soul [00:05:00] evolving

and to be free. From the wounding, from the en energy frequencies within, you know how most

Bonnie: everyone can relate to not feeling completely free, not completely liberated, the heart’s not fully open. Okay? We’re hiding who we are.

We’re not always being upfront. We, we feel unsafe. And all these, these are all coming from energy frequencies from the past. So, and coming right back around to your question about a hundred percent. Right.

Yeah. I’m, I’m, I’m mentioned to dive into your own journey and background in a moment, Bonnie, but I, I, I, I wanna look, pick up a couple of open loops. You, you, yeah. Dropped in there for me as well. And one is then. With the, the resonance of our emotion, if we are the totality of all our past incarnations and experiences, which might feel a stretch for many people listening to this, well, are we really living multiple lives and this just this and that?

And, you know, and [00:06:00] I, I’m always open to everything as I explore this work more, which allows me to learn more. Mm-hmm. And I’m always blown away, you know? Mm-hmm. So then if we are bringing that in, what is our souls. Journey or purpose as we move through these struggles and ’cause I think about what you said then with the resonance of emotions and these things that we bringing in, does that mean within attracting that resonance in to heal that part of ourselves, hence the challenge?

Mm-hmm. Related to that. Am I making sense? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, absolutely. Okay, so just kind of like backing up, when we think about the soul, the, the initial separation, you know, we had that core initial separation. If we’re remembering like we can go into this, the state of oneness, we have that ability from that place of oneness.

When we became aware of our own awareness. That was the initial separation. We felt as though we were separate from that place. The journey is to come back to the oneness and through that separation, as we began to incarnate in physicality, [00:07:00] physical form, and moving more into the human, human consciousness, that type of thing, it’s still the journey back home.

It’s still the journey to come back into that oneness. And what happens is, is. We, we have experiences and because we forget, we all know we forget, you know, we don’t have full memory, we don’t have memory of our past experiences. Every once in a while someone might have a, like a little flash or something, but basically the journey is when, when we come in, we begin to close our heart down.

You know, the ego gets developed. As we all know, as an infant child in the womb, you’re picking up all the energy from your mother. You’re picking up from your father. You’re picking up all these energies. You come into the world and, and. You’re learning that what you’re feeling, thinking one team needing is not okay.

So we draw all these in unconscious conclusions. We close the heart down, create blockages, basically the soul’s purpose. And I know every once go I, what’s my purpose here? Your true purpose is. Opening the heart, [00:08:00] sharing the gift of you, that means uninhibited, full on light, full on love sharing who you are.

And in that, you know, you’re absent all the wounding. You’re no longer, your mind isn’t blocking, stopping, you know, you’re not monitoring what you’re saying. You’re not, um, lying. You’re, you know, you’re just authentically true and real. Your true, true self. That is our true journey. That is what we’re doing.

So what happens is, is we, we come into the world, we have these experiences. We have a big emotional, um, things that cause pain, losses, you know what I mean? Like any loss or abandonments, betrayals, all the normal things we all experience. How many people actually go through those emotions? So that the heart opens back up.

Okay? Because what happens is when we take something personal, we have a loss. Someone abandons us or rejects us, what we do is we start to protect the heart. I did that. I made a decision when I was like 14 years old. I [00:09:00] had a boy, my first boyfriend, heartbreak, and I swore I said, I’ll never love again. Well, I closed my heart down and it was even, I even got married with that heart closed down.

Okay, that’s my point. But the bottom line is this. We, we, we, hold on, we carry over that, those same kind of woundings from our past, from our past experiences.

We, what happens is, is now we’ve got this energy in our subconscious, so remember, we are creating our reality 100% through our subconscious, not our conscious mind. Now, that’s pretty common knowledge for most people, and what’s happening is in the subconscious, if I’m believing that I deserve to be punished, if I’m believing that I’m no.

That I’m unworthy of those normal experiences. I’m echoing. The same, such something that’s gonna make those feelings come [00:10:00] up. But at a soul level, what we’re trying to do is unravel these places of the unconscious, face it, and know thyself in these experiences, go through that energy and in doing so, it leaves the body.

Look. When I would do one-on-ones, like in person, I would doing that emotional clearing work or unraveling stuff, I could watch the energy leave the body. So I, you know what I mean? So I’m watching it, I’m observing it, I’m witnessing it, and I can see things leaving and a person has shifted and change because finally they have faced an issue of abandonment or an issue of rejection or an issue of loss or whatever.

Those. Frequencies are they have, they’re finally knowing it in that way. And what happens is, is we no longer hold that wound. We’re no longer echoing out that same frequency out into the, out into the atmosphere, into the world. So we’re no longer drawing those experiences to us. Okay.

Yeah. [00:11:00] Keeping, I’m keeping up. I’m, my, my brain is processing as quick as, uh, trying to be present with you. The, the, um, so. Would it be fair to say then that for us to heal those aspects of ourselves, because you mentioned about going into it and be with it and reveal it, so we have to become aware of it to then truly feel it as opposed to avoiding it.

Right. Is it in that. Feeling and being aware of it and being with it and leaning into it, is that when we get to release that energy yes. To, to clear it, yes. That’s, yes, that’s what’s happening. When I used to, this used to be the foundation of my work back in the day when I had the Renaissance Center, so it was a, it’s a, as people come in and they, they go into these really deep, deep seated emotions, traumas, shocks, terror, all this stuff.

By they, it’s like there’s a surrender that has to happen, guy. If we’re [00:12:00] resisting, if we’re, if we’re thinking nothing is getting clear, I’m gonna tell you right now, right now, straight up, honest. Honest to God, for real. You are not clearing energy. You’re recycling. Okay. It’s a complete surrender to where you lose all thought.

You lose the mind, you become the emotion so fully that nothing exists. You don’t even know where you’re at. You are that emotion, but you keep dropping in and it comes in waves and you let it move through you. It might feel like you’re gonna die, might feel like you’re gonna go crazy, might feel like you’re never gonna come out of it.

It’s gonna be excruciatingly painful. It can be to where it feels like you almost can’t handle it. But the truth is, is you can, you’ve already lived it. The but going through that energy, what happens is now you are knowing it in a way you never did before. Like how, you know, how we all try to avoid things, you know, we try to push it down or not look at it and don’t feel it.

Make it go away. Rise above it. That we’ve been doing that for eons of time, and now with the new paradigm, the [00:13:00] frequency, it’s easier now and things energy’s moving much faster. So the, the, the ability, our willingness and the ability to come in and completely surrender to whatever that emotion is, it doesn’t matter what it is.

It can be terror, it can be anxiety, it can be the deep, heartbreaking, the losses, all the things that we live and to fully go there. Fully in it, embracing it, the energy literally leaves and lifts out of the body. I’ve seen thousands, thousands, thousands of times. I have witnessed this. Okay, and it’s a profound shift.

A person is changed immediately, instantly. And, you know, and then you, I get, I get goosebumps. You sharing that Bonnie? Uh, thousand percent. I, um, I went on my first Shama shamanic journey, uh, over 10 years ago. And, um. And it was, uh, plant-based medicine, but I was, I was absolutely [00:14:00] terrified because I was coming up against whatever fears and things and I, and that night I thought I was going to die.

Mm-hmm. But that was even before I went into the journey, I was mm-hmm. Back. You already terrified. Yes. Yes. I was absolutely terrified. And, um, my whole body was behaving like it was gonna die, and I was able to witness this and, and observe it and think. I can’t believe this. And that was the first time in my life I think I truly felt what it meant to surrender.

Mm-hmm. In, in, in a very deep level. Yeah. Yeah. And it was in that moment of surrender that. The, the wisdom revealed itself, Uhhuh, and, and, and once I got it, I was like, oh, that, that was changed, changed the trajectory of my life. ’cause I really understood it for the first, but if I hadn’t gone through that mm-hmm.

I, I never would’ve under never really have got it at a, at deep level. Right. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean, even talking about it, people aren’t really gonna get it or understand it until you [00:15:00] actually have that experience of going through something where you do surrender, where you’re no longer resisting even, no matter how intense it is, no matter how painful it is, no matter how frightening it is when you go through it, lose, drop the mind, but be, become that energy, become that emotion.

It lifts and leaves the body. Amazing. Do you. Do you think we need to know where that came from? Because I, I’m, no, we don’t wet always get so hung up on this happened to me at this age, this happened to this. Or what does this mean? No. What does that mean? And we attach ourselves to it. Right, right, right. We, and yes, and also pe we identify with it and here’s the thing.

We cannot know what’s in the subconscious. We cannot, okay? And what happens, guy, is when we go into that surrender place, the subconscious begins to open up and all that energy comes to the surface. Memories start to present. Sometimes it’s past life [00:16:00] memories, okay? But it doesn’t matter where it comes from because nothing really began in this lifetime.

It’s all carryover. Everyone that on the planet now is, has carryover from past lives of energy, experience, processes. They never, or experiences that were traumatizing, heartbreaking, that they never went through. So it’s carried over in the soul imprint. So it’s still in. In the subconscious and as we so, so, and it doesn’t really matter where it began.

Energy is energy, emo feelings of feeling betrayed or abandonment or loss. It’s all the same. It doesn’t matter where it originates. If you can surrender and if you can surrender. It will take you back. It will. You will see things. You will feel things, even if it’s just in this lifetime. You’re gonna have memories come forth that you didn’t have before.

You’re gonna have understanding and emotions that you didn’t even know existed. And as they [00:17:00] lift out. There’s like, it’s like being liberated. It’s like the, it’s like, uh, you feel lighter inside. You know? It’s just a great shift, but it doesn’t matter where it comes from and it doesn’t matter what it is.

The key is can you surrender to whatever presents, whatever is there, can you completely let go and drop in and know this energy, know this emotion That is what’s being asked of us. At a level, do we ever get to the point where we are the full expression of ourselves? Or is, are there always layers to. Be revealed.

Yeah, that, that’s a great question and that’s a good one. But what’s happening? I would say in the past, the odds were pretty against us. Now what’s happening with the new paradigm, with the light that’s shining on the planet and the earth changes, what? What’s happening is now we do have that opportunity and ability and potential [00:18:00] to do that.

Yes, yes. Wow. To open the heart. It’s, yeah, once that heart is open, a lot of things start to fall away. Belief systems fall away, attachments fall away. You know, all these things that we thought were so important and so necessary, and the ego and the ego starts to dissolve and, and also falls away. And we become more the authentic, true self, which is the true divine love and light in the very core of, of, of.

Our existence of our own physical form, as well as on all the different levels of who we are. And when that heart opens, I’m telling you there’s, it’s like I’ve had experiences where the darkest people, the cruelest, most whatever, damaging, hurtful, harmful, hateful people, all I could feel is unconditional love.

It doesn’t matter. Here’s great live and light here. It doesn’t matter. It’s all the same. So that’s what we really want. We wanna have that experience within our own selves because it’s who we’re, we’re that in the core. So [00:19:00] it, you know what we, we have to feel us. We live with our own selves. This is who we experience.

Why not feel love and light no matter what’s happening? Amazing. And what about you on your journey, Bonnie? Was there a moment? Were you, were you, were you, were you always aware of Of these energies? Yeah. Okay, so back in up. Yeah. Yeah. Or was it a complete point where you had to surrender as well? You know, just to go, that’s it.

Yeah. No, when I was a kid, I knew there were other energies. I saw them, I felt them, they were messing with me Where I lived, we. I would go out in the country and there were, um, different spirits that would come in and move my shoes and just mess with me, jump on my bed, whatever. So I knew there were things that we didn’t see with our eyes.

Okay. I always knew that and in my world. So I came in, my mother was, um, her mother, her mother-in-law told her not to have another baby. She was young. And so my mom was trying to abort me. So I do have [00:20:00] physical things that came from that, uh, what she took and. Uh, the damage it did to me and. What it did though, guy, is it anchored in me, in the womb, the belief that I don’t belong here.

I’m not wanted and I’m gonna be killed. Okay. I have lived with that my entire life. Okay. And I was severely damaged because I also had, I. Um, my dad basically left, my mother basically left. My grandmother raised us and she was, she came in when I was about two and a half, maybe about, yeah, two and a half.

And she didn’t like, she was very abusive to me, so I was extremely abused. Like any opportunity she had. Get the razor strap, get the belts, get the switches off the trees, anything pepper in my pants. So she basically tortured me and then her husband was molesting me and uncle was molesting me and her brother was molesting me.

And I’m talking not fun. I’m talking [00:21:00] severe molestation, not just touching here and there. Okay, we’re talking severe. So having all of that for me, I just, I was just, uh, I was severely damaged. I couldn’t, my first day at school, I walk in, I think my grandmother took me in and this kid says to me, what are you doing here?

I broke down sobbing. He hit that wound that I don’t belong here. I didn’t know it was up. All I did was start just sobbing and God, my whole life, I mean, I lived in isolation. I’ve isolated myself from the world my entire life. You know, when I was 19, I went into the mountains and lived in the, in the mountains, isolated for four years, didn’t see hardly anybody.

I did it again in 2006. I went into the desert for four years and, and I, the whole isolation thing. So we are, we. Yeah, so we’re severely affected and my life turned around because I also was always wanting to die. Oh. When I was like, I think I was nine years old, I’d laid on the floor and I was trying, I was trying to will my body to die.

I thought I could [00:22:00] do it, but I, I didn’t. And then I always was like different ways of dying. I just wanted to, to check out. So I was trying to find different ways, poison or cut your wrist or you know, whatever. And. Having my kids, my daughter, I’m, um, find discovering not that long ago that she was aware that her mother was gonna kill herself.

What a horrible thing to live with. So it was in 1984 that I actually, um, shifted from that whole victimization, the poor me, the, you know, the damage and, and dysfunction and all of that. So, I mean, that still took years for me to come to the place I am now and. Know, as I I, my journey was really about liberation from within, and that’s how I developed my work.

That’s how I created the, the work that I do and, and the depth of work that I do, and the ability to track energy and be able to unravel things. It was because of my own journey and the suffering that I have lived, I’ve lived and where I [00:23:00] am now. I mean. I mean, I’m like, it’s like when I look at me back then it’s like you would just see this kid that was just like all shrunken up, you know?

And didn’t belong here, and didn’t deserve to be here, and it was horrible. It was like horrid. So, you know, it’s like major shift in transformation in my own world. Pretty intense. Yeah, I wasn’t expecting that, but thank you for sharing Bonnie. You know? Yeah. Well I think it’s, you know, people, ’cause there’s people that are even more as, I work with people that are really severely damaged, you know what I mean?

And then other people that aren’t quite as so severely, but you know, the benefit of the work is like, it’s, it’s just like, you don’t have to go and talk like story. It’s just, let’s unravel what’s there. Let’s clear this stuff out so you can live more. Truth who you are. Do, do you think as human beings, we all, we all carry a, a certain level of trauma?

Oh, yes. Everyone does. You can’t, you can’t be in the world and not [00:24:00] have, okay, so people carry forth trauma. This is the thing, and you know, when you carry it over, you got, you’ve already got trauma, and then when you come in. Live being in their mother’s womb, you’re picking up all her trauma, you’re picking up dad’s trauma and you don’t know the difference.

You know? That’s why for me, we gotta clear out whatever you picked up in the womb so that you’re not living your mother’s and father’s, you know, energy frequency traumas. But yeah, there’s trauma, there’s shock, there’s, uh, terror. There’s, uh, all these, all these emotions. Um, there’s also things that people may not think about, but for example, guy, when we, when we have done something and we have a belief that, oh my goodness, what I did is so bad.

I deserve to be punished. I deserve to suffer. We hold that and we, I find that belief inside of people’s subconscious all the time. All the time. So they’re the ones punishing themselves, torturing themselves, you know, hurting themselves, not not giving themselves what they want at a subconscious level [00:25:00] because it becomes about them and their beliefs, and then you have the, then you compound that with other people and with their.

Punishing you and torturing you and, you know, making you wrong. And, and then their energy also gets anchored in, so, you know, the unraveling of, of the human psyche is, is pretty deep. You know, it’s pretty profound and there’s a lot to it. Yeah. No, thank you. Because, um, one thing I hear quite often is like, oh, I’m fine.

I, I, I don’t. You know, and I’m thinking, oh, maybe in the 5, 10, 15 years that’s gonna catch up with you. You know what I mean? Yep, yep. And, uh, but we’re just not aware. Yes. And that’s, that’s the thing. We’re not aware. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we think things are happening to us because we’re being punished or because, you know, whatever these beliefs are, but that simply isn’t the truth.

It’s just not the truth. It’s happening from the subconscious. You got something anchored in there, so you know. How, okay. [00:26:00] How do you then track energy? How does, and how does it work? Is it a skill anyone can develop if they’re willing to change their awareness? Or is it something that you found that you were gifted with?

Yeah. How, how, how do you interpret all that? Yeah, so for me, for me, I already had an innateness to it because I had already been in many incarnations, I was already, already been in those realms, but in this reality right here now. Yes, people can learn how to track and how what? What happens For me, I’m always looking for.

Not that I’m saying the words, but the intention, the desire is where did this begin? Where’s this coming from? Is this this person? Is there an interference happening here? So no matter what it is, no matter what, people come to me for whatever’s going on in their world, I. They, they’re telling me that, and I don’t need a bunch of story, but just gimme a little bit about what’s happening.

What do you want to shift and change? I start tracking the energy. I’m watching what’s happening, and [00:27:00] I can tell if it’s a discarnate attached to it. I can see past life stuff. It just, it’s like an energy show that presents as, as soon as someone starts speaking their, their energy is showing me. Where things are.

So I, I’ll be tracking, watching, you know, my, my consciousness is seeking certain answers. And then I also am so aware, I’m so acutely aware of anything that might be like a little, little like energy. Like you just saw that, like a flash of something on what, what was that? ’cause those little flashes or those little, little blinks of something.

I caught like, oh, on like, almost like a little shadow or something that you wanna go after because that’s the hidden stuff, you know? So I’m, the energy is, it can present in colors and shapes, textures, smells, sounds. Um, I get, I am very visual, so I get a lot of visuals. So like if I’m tracking something with someone and.

That they don’t have any memory of [00:28:00] anything I can find, you know, where it all began, where the carryover is. So it presents like, um, when I first started doing the work, doing healing work, this was in 1986, I began to see that, oh, anger has this color, fear has this color, anxiety has this color. You know, all the emotions had certain frequencies and, but each one you could tell the difference be or.

Like if it was ancient or if it was fresh, or if it was intense or if it was old or, you know what I mean? It was like everything was a, was like a roadmap that was just presenting in front of me so that I could track it and get a sense of, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it. This is I, yeah, this is ancient. Oh, okay.

If it’s ancient, oh, pat, lemme go track back. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I go back where this first began, going back into the live stream. Picking up on particular lifetimes for different issues. Like for example, let’s just say someone has a, in this lifetime, they just keep feeling like there’s always an abandonment happening.

You know, maybe their [00:29:00] parents somehow abandonment. Now they’re in relationship. Then they get abandoned. So, right, there’s a, there there’re showing me there’s an issue with abandonment, but then I’m gonna be looking and I’ll be asking this lifetime now, past life, show me when it all began. I might see something like this guy, I see it.

I might. Um, a family they can’t afford. This is way back, several hundred years back and they ha the woman’s pregnant. She can’t feed the baby. So they put the baby out in the forest and leave it. Okay. The baby may not die immediately, but it’s gonna have the elements. It might be, uh, you know, it might be something might attack animals.

Critters might be trying to eat it. You know what I’m saying? So that baby, as long as it’s alive, it’s having all these experiences that have nowhere to go. With, because it’s just an infant and that can affect an abandonment, you know what I mean? It can affect, uh, that feeling of being abandoned and rejected and unloved.

So it’s [00:30:00] unraveling that wounding from that point in time where it began because they’re still carrying that wound into this lifetime. So we wanna clean all that up. So that we can be done with that, done with that feeling of abandonment, get all the components of it, release agreements and contracts, know yourself in these ways, and then all the frequencies that are attached to it, which will be discarnates, which will also be, um, other people’s energy frequencies.

And sometimes there can be. Different, different things that are interfering. So clean that up and pretty soon there is no issue. It’s over done. Wow. Yeah. I’ve had multiple people on the podcast share the very same thing you say in, in just different ways about that, that ancestral heritage coming through from a traumatic point and even through our DNA as well as the energy point.

Yeah. So we, we get it from all angles. Yes, we do. Within ourselves. I’m gonna go down a little bit further down the rabbit hole, even if we [00:31:00] haven’t already. ’cause it’s, it’s going that way. And, and I’m, because I had a gentleman on, um, a couple of weeks ago named Pete Smith and he worked under the Michael Newton for a long time with the life between lives.

And I was very, um, curious to know his side. ’cause he is very big on the quantum. I’m looking at the quantum aspects of all of this work. Mm-hmm. And I’m, I’m also just asking do, are. Then as souls or as individuals, are there multiple aspects of us having multiple lives at different realities right now?

And is that then affecting the trauma, the, the, the hell trauma of the soul? Are we picking up on from that, those aspects, so as well, or is it just this individual kind of timeline that’s mm-hmm. That’s happening? Mm-hmm. So we are multidimensional. So in this lifetime, right here, right now, we do have aspects of us that are us.

They’re not somebody else. We have our, we have um, our higher levels. We have our, [00:32:00] you know, we have our, uh, oversold levels. Um, God’s health levels. We got our superconscious levels. Then we go direct into the light of pure awareness, which is creation itself. And then we have the overlays of other time and space, dimensions, universe, galaxies, lifetime valley, black holes, frequencies, realms, and parallel all that.

We have all of that coexisting simultaneously. So when we go into the state of oneness, like we wanna go into the frequency of the all that is what I call creation, what people would call God. When going in that space and that that frequency, it’s not what I, you know, when I first was thinking about it, I thought, oh yeah, just like quietness.

But it’s not there. It is like, because everything is happening together simultaneously, whether it’s in another universe or another galaxy or time and space. So yes, we are multidimensional. We are not just right here we are in other time and space. And also when we, when we’re clearing up and. And re [00:33:00] and healing some of these past life things.

We’re going back and actually dealing with the frequency that’s still happening in the frequency of the all. That is that, that, that whole frequency, that’s just massive energy, consciousness. All all things existing simultaneously, all at the same time. So. We can move stuff. Clear stuff, release stuff, and coming back here.

Yes. We, we have our own entourage of our own selves and our own, all the aspects of us that are helping us to like, you know, those, sometimes we get the knowing, you know what I mean? Like, oh, turn left here, and you get a great parking space right at the grocery store, and you have that knowing to buy, oh, you need grab that.

Olive oil or whatever, and your mind would go, oh no, I don’t need it. And you get home and you go, oh, I need it olive oil. You know, that happens all the time to people. So that’s us. That’s our higher levels talking to us. That’s, you know, that’s our, that’s our connection to our own higher selves. But yes, we are, we are [00:34:00] multidimensional beings.

Yes. So I’m just trying to get de decomp, get it in my head. I guess. Feed the mind aspect of it then. Yeah. Yeah. Um.

Is there then another, like another physical me somewhere else right now having a different experience or different choice points. Mm-hmm. Going into source. I, yeah, I just saw you. It’s the moment you started talking. I was tracking. That was tracking. Okay. Yeah. So the moment you began to talk, I’m look. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

There you are. There you are. Yeah, yeah,

Bonnie: I can see you. You’re there. Okay, so you’re in another, this is another dimension, like an overlay, another dimension that you’re in,

and then you’re also Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So

Bonnie: you’re also another galaxies, you’re also another time and space.

So yes, there’s multiple use.

Bonnie: You guy, the, the being that you are not the same name, but the frequency of you, your consciousness. Yes. You’re in many places. [00:35:00]

Yes. Wow. What, and what, what do you, I I, and I don’t know the listeners will be fascinated this, like, what do you see? What do you feel? Is it more of a feeling and intuitive aspect?

Or, or do, or do you see it? Like how do you It’s all of it. It’s all of it. I can feel it, all of it, and I see it. Like, I can see, I can see you so clearly ’cause you presented really, really fast. Okay. And you look like you, it’s a kind of a trip. It’s the same kind of thing, but you’re not doing what you’re doing here.

The one that’s very clear, it’s almost like you’re in another, it’s like in a, you know, science has sh uh, has proven that there’s like 12 dimensions of, of time and space. Okay. They’ve, they’ve proven that. So you’re, it’s looking like you’re about that in that other, that third dimension, the one I’m looking at of that lifetime.

And you’re a character man. You’re like. It’s kind of cool because you’re, you’re, you got a lot of self-confidence and you’re very talkative. And I, and you’re, um, [00:36:00] yeah. You’re, you’re a good guy. For real. You’re a good guy and, yeah, but you’re just, you’re, it’s different than who you are right here. It’s almost like a different personality, sort of, but yet.

You still have a very similar look like I could very see you really like really clearly. And then when I start looking out, like I go into, when I start going further out into the other, other time and space, like galactic kind of stuff, I can find you in, I. Another, another. Oh, what is this? Another time?

This is another, this is like an almost like alien kind of energy because you know, know now you’re not really looking like Guy. You have a different, different look to you. But I can still feel you and sense you and actually know, I see you know you. But knowing you here. So I can actually feel and sense you in this other time and space with these other beans that are not looking like full on human.

Okay. I mean it, you know, that’s just, so there’s that. And I can also feel different particles of you. [00:37:00] Um, and this might have to do with some of the places you’ve been so I can feel particles of you. In different time and space kind of scattered throughout universe. Not just this universe, but other universes and other galaxies.

So there’s essence of you. That’s been many, many places. So. Yeah. So yeah, it’s, it’s a trip. It’s a, yeah, it’s a trip, isn’t it? Yeah. And because I’ve had some trippy experiences ever since, you know, like I’ve shared offline earlier, once things started to really move for me and mm-hmm. I really question myself and experience that multidimensional part, and I’m always.

I don’t talk about them too much because I don’t want that to be impose my experience onto somebody else’s experience. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Um, and, but. Are we, do we have the ability to connect with those other aspects of ourselves and see it, feel it, and be there for a moment [00:38:00] to take that wisdom into our lives here?

Is that Yes. Do you think that’s possible? It’s possible. It is possible. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. And doesn’t mean that everyone can do it, but there are just, I think it just depends on one’s ability to take your awareness, to take your consciousness to different places, and. You know, I, I actually do that when I do different classes or whatever, like I take people to, to meet their dragon.

I mean, people are shocked when they, they didn’t realize, they didn’t know how a dragon, you know what I mean? So I’ll take ’em to the dragon realm and they start crying. So, and then they, they’re there and they’re experiencing it. So, like, for example, I, I will take people, like sometimes people feel like they don’t belong here.

This is not their home planet. For that, I’m sure. Mm-hmm. So what I do is I’ll take someone to their home planet and let them connect with their, the species and the beans that they were bonded with, and then they’re, they’re gonna be given something to bring back with them. So they always feel like a part of home is with them.

It really [00:39:00] makes a difference in their ability to just be here on planet earth. Okay. So for you, like the one I’m looking at this other parallel, my sense is it would be kind of easy for you to kind of step into that feel that because it’s like. It’s not that, I mean, it’s in another time, dimen, it’s in another dimension.

But still, you know, our awareness can be anywhere immediately. You know, there’s no, there’s no. Time warp. You know, we’re faster than the speed of light to be instantly anywhere, anywhere in time and space. So for you, you know, it would just be a matter of taking you into that experience and, and you can do it on your own with intention, like if you intended and wanted to experience yourself in that particular realm, basically what I would like, I would just have you like.

Um, have that desire and intention, but taking your awareness and going towards, and moving towards the, the twin guy, so to speak, where, [00:40:00] you know, where are you, where am I? Show me, show me, show me. And then taking your awareness and just let your own higher levels and those aspects of you that can take you there, guide you into that, that form.

So, or even be able to witness it. Wow. That is a trip. That’s amazing. So, and so I think as well, just speaking for everyone again, like ultimately then it’s, it’s a skill that we need to develop, developing our awareness and Yeah. Not just experiencing life through our senses and touch sounds. Yeah. You know, and that we’re always external.

Yeah. And then bringing intentionality in behind that awareness and practicing that. Yes. And, and I would imagine then surrendering into that. As well, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And let it present. Don’t try to make something happen. You know what I mean? Like people try to mock something up or try to make something.

No, it’s not about that. You have to allow it to unfold, allow it to present, allow, you know, just that allowing and then seeking and asking. Yes. So it’s, you know, and [00:41:00] most people won’t be able to do it. I immediately, some people may never be able to do it, but there are those who can. You know, like you, and like you said, with practice, you know, have intention, have pra you know, practicing if you want it, make you know to have that happen.

Have those experiences. As with anything, you know, you, you open the door for that. You open the, the consciousness for that. Yeah. Well, funny enough, you sharing all that, like some of the, my experiences then happened at three or four o’clock in the morning when I was just sleeping and waking up to that experience.

Right? So it’s like I’ve been setting the intention and doing the practice and then at one point I go, oh. You know what? I’m just gonna go to sleep and then go Yeah, yeah. And then have it, you know, which is like, ah, there’s another lesson right there. Yeah. Um, just shifting gears and, and as we move into the, the final sort of part of the podcast, Bonnie, is, um, you, you spoke about as well, about the, the, the whole paradigm, the whole shift of energy that’s [00:42:00] happening here on earth right now.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And, you know, we’ve been going through a lot. It feels like there’s, there’s, I feel like humans are being put under, um, a, I guess a bit of pressure more to start to. Look inward. That’s how I’m kind of interpreting it. Yeah. Yeah. And what, what would you recommend to people that are feeling uneasy?

Feeling like you, you know, when we, we we’re not, we don’t wanna lean in, but it, it feels like there’s, if there is a planetary shift, then there is an energy shift that’s kind of nudging us to say, Hey, no, we’d need to start leaning into ourselves more. Mm-hmm. What would you, how would you speak to that?

What would you recommend to people listening? Um, right now? Yeah. I mean, in some ways,

Bonnie: guy, we’re almost being forced to face what’s in, okay. The, the frequency of the, the light that’s presenting on the planet and also the planet itself is shifting and changing and what’s happening. I. So that people can have a better [00:43:00] understanding is whatever is not love is gonna come to the surface.

And that means everything. That means greed, that means judgments, that means, um, you know, uh, prejudices and hatred. All these things that people hold in their subconscious, the world energy frequency is pushing. On those subconscious emotions, they’re being forced to come to the surface and people, the biggest thing people do is they don’t wanna feel it.

You know, we talked about that earlier, but the thing is people is it’s never gonna go away. I. You’ll die with intent, with the horror if you don’t start letting these energies move through you. You know what I mean? It could be a, like a traumatic experience rather than, alright, I’m feeling this, I’m losing my house.

How’s that make me feel? I lost my job. I can’t feed my children. How’s that make me feel? And facing these places of terror, of unrest, of, you know, all the [00:44:00] intensity, anxiety and. You know, the heartbreak, all these energies are being trying to be lifted up from our subconscious. You know, we’ve been burying stuff for eons of time.

Now we have all this darkness inside, and the light is shining on that darkness. There’s no way to hide from it. And what I would just encourage people to do is face your life. Whatever it is you’re being at a soul level. You are being asked. To face what’s presenting. It’s inside of you, you’re feeling it.

So rather than trying to rise above it or push it down, or numb it out or whatever, we all do to avoid it, you’re gonna have to say, yes, yes, yes. Show me. I’m willing, I’m open. Whatever that is, I wanna know it so I can be done with it. And and guy what the, the beauty of what, when we do this is yes, there’s crisis.

Yes. There the world’s, you know, there’s so much happening. Yes. There’s starvation. Yes. It’s gonna get even [00:45:00] worse. Okay. Yes. And when we face our own selves, we can be in the world in a different way without attachment, we can have. Compassion for the suffering of humanity, but we’re not whipped around. That was another thing.

I couldn’t even go down a street. If I saw a little dead critter, I was like crying because they suffer. Okay. It is like we, we, we witness what’s happening, but it’s not personal and it is that divine plan in the unfolding that is unfolding and this is what it looks like, and we are all a part of that, and we have to face what’s within.

When we get activated or triggered by what’s happening in our world, in our life, rather than turning away from it or avoiding it, face it and say, yes. All right? Yes. I know this is a bad feeling. Yes, it’s gonna be painful. Yes, I’m doing it. Show me what it show me. I’m willing. Come on in, feel. Let the energy move.

Even though you feel like I [00:46:00] said earlier, like you’re gonna die or gonna go crazy or gonna get stuck here, you won’t. It just feels that way. But let know thyself in these places so you can be liberated from within so that you can be here in the chaos. And it’d be like in the middle of that, of that tornado rather than being whipped around, you know, you’re in the eye of that tornado, witnessing hard open compassion and love for all suffering draw being, and you’re no longer gonna be in that torturous place anymore.

That’s, that’s the beauty of it. You know, come in, face this stuff and you’re not gonna have a tortured life. Yeah. That’s it, isn’t it? We, we, um, the mo modern day lifestyle isn’t conducive to giving yourself space and allowing yourself just to be with yourself. Is it? It’s so hectic and, yeah. Bombarded to so many distractions out there.

We just can keep ourselves busy and numb to those emotion, those deep emotions that we truly, um, [00:47:00] yeah. Wanna. Work through, except that you’re getting activated almost daily, right? I mean, people are, if you’re watching the news, if you’re in the world mm-hmm. There’s always something. There’s always an opportunity to come in and feel what’s presenting every single day.

1. You have an opportunity. Yes, I understand what you’re saying about the ca. You know the busyness, busyness, busyness. But I’m telling you right now, you got something more important than facing your own self, unraveling your deep wounding so that you can be more liberated. Is there anything more important than that?

I don’t think so. Yeah, I, I remember Bonnie, I don’t think I’ve ever shared this online before, but I remember many years ago, um, when, when I moved to Australia, ’cause I was like going through my own process and journey. I remember, um, a a, a very successful mom once says, guy, just turn your TV around. It’s the best thing you can do.

Sort of faces the wall. And uh, and I was like, oh, okay. And, and, and I did. I literally turned the TV around and never had a TV for. I think a period [00:48:00] of, of 10 years. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And I purposely just removed myself. I thought, fine. And, and I remember a friend and I was so submersed in myself and just letting go.

And a friend said to me, oh, president Obama’s Obama’s just been elected. And I didn’t have a visual image of what Obama looked like, ’cause I was so, mm-hmm. Remove when you think about the craziness, the hype of what was going on in the world. Yeah. And um, but it was one of the best things I could have ever done was actually just start taking those steps to go.

Yeah. You know, it has to start here with myself, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I got rid of TV at when, um, back in what year? That was like 1980. Hang on. No, 1970. 1976 tv. Gone, kids raid with no tv. Yeah. Wow. Amazing. Boy. Last, last question, just to tie it up, uh, for the podcast today, which I ask everyone on the show is like, I mean, we’ve, we’ve covered a lot of ground today and.

With everything [00:49:00] that we’ve covered, is there anything you would like to leave the listeners to ponder on? Mm, mm-hmm. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So, so for people to be aware that everyone, every human being, every being, every sentient being is, is creator incarnate. Everyone is that, and everyone has the light within. I don’t it, it, it’s like when I track and look at even dark energies, you know, greed, all the darkest peoples, everyone has that light.

Okay? The light is within everyone. And if we have that awareness that we are all divine beings, that we are love and light in the very core of our being, that we do have the ability. To that energy in the very core of who we are, that we can come back to that. Even if we have all kinds of wounding, doesn’t matter.

We can still be [00:50:00] wounded, broken, whatever. We can all still find that light within. And when we do, it’s like taking your awareness from the very core of your being, finding that light where you’re blinded by a light, even if it’s like a minuscule little dot of light. Okay. ’cause there’s so much wounding, go into that light and keep resting in that or relaxing into that, surrendering into that knowing this is who you are.

And when you’re in that space, there’s no static, there’s no, um, I. Brokenness, it’s like a silent still point in the, in the psyche within the, the awareness and, and then start to expand that because in the expanding of that, you’re pushing against some of the dark energy, some of the wounding. It’ll make them come to the surface.

But if you stay constant in your, or, you know, just be with that. Keep your, keep your awareness in your own light and then it’s more of a witnessing as energies can be lifted and cleared. As you keep expanding your own light within your own [00:51:00] form. So I just wanna have let people know that shift does happen and we have the power within our own selves to shift and change our lives and to come out of suffering.

We don’t have to live in suffering. These are, those are all beliefs, those are conclusions. None of it’s real. It’s all the ego, but we keep. Coming back to the of who we are, we begin to identify that rather than with all the brokenness, with all the ego components of who we think we are and what we become, rather than our true essence.

So we wanna come back to our true essence and anyone can do that. Anyone? Yeah. Beautiful. Thank you for sharing. Bonnie. If anyone wants to know more about your work, um, check you out where, where’s the best place we can send everyone? Website. It’s called spiritual acceleration.com. Spiritual acceleration.com and they’ll, they’ll be for anyone listening or driving, there’ll be, they can just pause and there’ll be links in the show notes [00:52:00] for your website as well, Bonnie.

So, um, look, wow. Thank you so much for coming on today. I, I, I loved our conversation. Yeah, yeah, it was fun. A lot of fun. You got me spinning in so many directions and thinking about many things, which I’m sure I’ll ponder on for many days, Bonnie. But, um, yeah, look, I really value your time and, and coming on and your wisdom, so, um, thank you so much.

Thank you for having me, Guy. It’s been really fun. Thank you.