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Guy (00:00:01):
Today my beautiful guest is Sarah Landon. Now, I discovered Sarah on Gaia tv and, uh, reached out to her and she kindly came onto the show, Sarah Channels. And she channels what’s called the Council. Oh, she refers to as the council. And it’s not the first person I’ve had on the podcast, uh, that’s channeled before. And I just find the whole conversation absolutely fascinating. And today we dive into the topics, basically of the wisdom of the council and the message that I wanna to get across to us, uh, to listen in on. If you are wondering the best way to navigate the podcast in the future as well and what we discussed, you can always look below and there’s timestamps with show notes as well, so you can skip to them and jump in whatever parts of the podcast you do. I do this cause I strive to try and keep my intros much shorter as possible, even though I am talking a lot right now. Anyway, with all that to do, if you wanna dive into our work, we offer a free seven days of meditation, which can be found in the link below. I mean, just say seven days, but you can do it as long as you want. But seven days is a great place to start. And also we run immersive retreats around Australia and we will be in Portugal July, 2023 as well. If any of that tickle to fancy, check out the links below. Let’s go over to Sara. This is a great conversation. Enjoy.

Guy (00:01:34):
Sara, welcome to the podcast.

Sara (00:01:36):
Hello. Thank you. I’m happy to be here.

Guy (00:01:39):
I have to ask you, if you were at a cocktail party or an intimate dinner party and you got chatting to a stranger and they asked you what you did for a living, what would you say?

Sara (00:01:49):
<laugh>? Oh my gosh, that’s such a good question. So I, I really try to stay in the moment whenever answering that question. But essentially it comes down to helping people to live their purpose, to really answer those questions. Who am I? Why am I here? What’s my purpose and how do I live it? And I often share with people that I was in the corporate world, I was, um, in, in an executive role very young, had a lot of success, worked really hard, was into personal development, set lots of goals, achieved lots of things, and yet arrived at this experience of feeling like, is this really all there is? You know, what is my purpose? There’s gotta be more to this. You know, I, I didn’t really feel like I was living my highest potential, and yet I didn’t know what that was. And had anybody told me what that might, what, where that journey might lead me, I would, I would probably, uh, thought you had the wrong person. But, uh, ultimately it’s arriving to this place of who am I? Why am I here? What’s my purpose? What’s my highest potential? And it’s supporting people on that journey to answer those questions for themselves and then really come into living their highest potential in life.

Guy (00:03:08):
Amazing. And you know, I have to ask you, Sarah, before we dive into your journey and your, your background and what, and what you, you know, the, the details of what you do now, when you were on that journey and the, cuz you’ve obviously achieved a lot. You, you’re, like you say, there’s an external world that we, we push ourselves, we get motivated, we, we, we get ourselves pumped up and you know, we’re kicking ass, we’re kicking goals and Yeah. And we’re doing all this, these things cuz that was <laugh> kind of my life. But then how, and then you, you got this kind of work, which is surrender, be a peace, be one, and let things flow and move. Yeah. And, and it’s a, it’s, it’s a very different concept mm-hmm. <affirmative> in some respects mm-hmm. <affirmative>, which feels to me much more natural. How did you kind of deal with those aspects? Cuz they, they’re very conflicting in some respects.

Sara (00:04:02):
Yeah. Too, well, maybe

Guy (00:04:03):
Even how you living your life today

Sara (00:04:05):
<laugh>. Exactly. I, I, I think what you just described is what led me to actually discovering what my purpose was and to open up to channeling and all these different things because I had so many questions based exactly on what you’re talking about. I had started in pers well, to back up, I was raised in a very Christian family, very, I would say very spiritual family, that that only knew Christianity as the path to your relationship to God and all that is. And so, at a very young age, I was very drawn to my connection to spirit. And the only, you know, experience I had essentially was religion. Uh, when I was about seven years old, my aunt, uh, shared with me that she was discovered this channel that was, uh, talking about reincarnation and past lives and soulmates and quantum hypnosis in a quantum healing in the quantum realm and metaphysics.

Sara (00:05:10):
And I was like, oh, wow. I mean, I, at a very young age, I remember being totally, uh, enamored with hearing about that stuff. But in my teenage years, I got into personal development, specifically Tony Robbins and, you know, that take massive determined action, uh, followed several different personal development leaders and teachers, great information goal setting the art and science of achievement and success and setting goals. And I got into the law of attraction and, and creating your vision board. And you put these things on your vision board and you create anything. And I arrived at this moment where I had literally manifested everything on my vision board, achieved every goal I had, and went, is this all there is? You know, why do I really not feel the sense of fulfillment and happiness and abundance I thought I should feel when realizing those goals?

Sara (00:06:08):
And so that led to questions. So that led to studying spirituality and different religions. And so then you have the other side of the spectrum saying, you know, go sit on a mountaintop and quit quiet and surrender and allow. And that really wasn’t working for me either. And so I had all of these questions that no one could really answer for me, and I could not find the answers. They were really about. There’s gotta be something more to the law of attraction than what was being shared. And my personal questions, those very same things that I shared earlier, who am I? Why am I here? What’s my purpose? How do I live it? What’s our highest potential? Who, what is God? What is really going on here? Right? I, to my surprise, started receiving the answers to those questions in a process that I now know or would refer to as automatic writing.

Sara (00:07:08):
I would wake up in the middle of the night and this energy would be present and I would just have to write and I would read it the next morning. And I knew it was coming through me. I knew it wasn’t coming from my brain cuz I did not know these things. But it was the answers to those very questions and the answers were very satisfying to me. It was that you are creator of your reality. It shared how you create reality that you are, that what you call God, you are that extension of source and the things you wanna create, it’s, they already exist. It’s about aligning to the part of you that already is peace, already is abundant, already is in harmony, already is powerful because you get more of what you are. So when we’re creating that illusion of separation, we’re in a very limited aspect of our power. When you actually align with that which you wanna create more of, and then allow reality to move through, you allow your destiny to come to you. What I now know for sure is that that greater intelligence in the universe knows far more what is my highest potential or the manifestation of my soul’s desires than my human can figure out from its very limited viewpoint of what it thinks it needs in order to be happy. Does that make sense?

Guy (00:08:36):
Total sense? Yeah. And I guess the question I wanted to ask you then was that when the automatic writing process started to happen and that energy, you started to feel it, was there anything that kind of sparked that into action? Or was it the fact that you were just inquiring with yourself, it just came on from that inquiry?

Sara (00:09:00):
Well, I’d had some experiences that I now know were all leading to this now moment and this experience of channeling and all the things that I do. My brother passed away when I was 21 years old. And that was really my first experience. Uh, when I walked into the viewing of his body and, you know, touched his body and went and sat down on this chair, I then felt this energy. And although it was really emotional and heavy and cold and sad, all of a sudden, this feeling that I can only describe as warm liquid love started from the top of my head, went through my whole body. I was warm and I was totally in, completely in peace. And I heard my brother say over my right shoulder, his body was on the left side. I’m still here, I’m just not in there. And I knew the reference was to his body.

Sara (00:09:58):
And so I said back in my head to him, well, where are you? And he said, I’m just as here as I ever was. I just left the density of the body and I’m at a vibration or a frequency that you can’t interpret with your limited physical senses. And those weren’t words that were any type of vocabulary I had used or been familiar with at that point. And that went on for a couple of moments. And then that energy receded and I was back in that room. And that was really my first experience on this awakening journey that was completely spontaneous. And as much as I wanted to doubt it and deny it pretty quickly after it happened, I couldn’t deny the love that I felt and the peace that I felt like nothing I had ever felt before. And it would happen spontaneously from time to time.

Sara (00:10:49):
And then the automatic writing started happening, and then I, I was in a yoga class one day and this woman had been next to me a few different times and I asked her, you know, how are you liking yoga? And she’s like, well, I don’t really like it, but everybody in my business does yoga. And I said, what’s your business? And she explained that she was a quantum healing. She, she was a practitioner for Q H H T, which is Quantum Healing Hypnosis Technique discovered or or developed by Dolores Cannon. And I’m like, quantum what? And she, she said, I help people get in touch with their higher selves. And I said, I think I need to talk to you. And so those sessions with her, which were really based in getting I in a deep meditative state and then opening up to this energy and higher consciousness that is available to you, it was first really focused on that soul communication, soul level, higher self communication.

Sara (00:11:48):
And much to my surprise, which was not my intention in any way, all of a sudden that energy that was coming in in the middle of the night started flowing through me and, and a feeling of love that I absolutely had, had never felt anything like it. And my voice changed, the cadence of my voice changed, and all of a sudden this collective of infinite intelligence is answering her questions about all of these things. And the answers are coming through me. I was aware, but I was trying to keep up with the stream of consciousness and translate it as fast as possible to answer her questions. That there was no time to doubt it, no time to really wonder what this was. I was just flooded with this energy and this consciousness that had so much to say to these questions she had. And that went on for several months until the place where this information that was coming through was changing my life, changing her life, changing the lives of the few very safe, close personal friends that I shared this with.

Sara (00:13:00):
And I realized it was essentially like the manual for the human experience. It was all the information to live your highest potential from health, wealth, to abundance, to love, relationships, a anything. And I just knew at some point I couldn’t keep this information from the world if, if, if I was searching for these answers. A lot of other people must be looking for these answers too. And ultimately the council will say, you know, you are us and we are you and you, we are always with you and always available to you. Anybody can access exactly what i, I receive when I channel the council’s wisdom. But most people don’t tune in with that level of focus or intention. And I’ve taken over 4,500 people now across the world through a, a course, the out of channeling or a semi-private course I do, helping people learn how to channel, although it’s just remembering in innate, in an inherent gift you have.

Sara (00:13:59):
But ultimately it comes back to trust. And most people receive higher level information. They receive intuition, they receive guidance from their soul or higher self. They’re receiving information from the councils and the teams, but they doubt it and they don’t trust it because it is often as simple as do the things that bring you joy. Because when you’re in a state of joy, you’re in a state of allowing the instant manifestation of allowing is joy. And this is the vibration most closely aligned with the truth of who you are. It’s also about raising your consciousness, because consciousness is what moves energy into form. And we tend to relate the word consciousness to am I health conscious? Am I conscious in eating the right things? Am I living the right way? And that’s not what they mean by consciousness. They mean really elevating your consciousness into a state of pure love when you, where you go beyond any judgment of yourself or anyone, or circumstances and conditions to see this extraordinary human experience from a much higher perspective. And when you start there, everything actually is easy. When you align to the infinite abundance and love and wellbeing and intelligence that’s in you, then you’re not separate from anything and you’re not moving yourself into lower dimensions of consciousness where you experience separation, lack limitation, fear, resistance, those types of things.

Guy (00:15:37):
I have to ask you that, that you’ve triggered so many questions here already. Um, but I I, I see now in my own journey that people want to explore this work. They’re frightened to explore this work or embarrassed to in some cases because nobody else is talking about it or, or being it. How did you personally start to accept this, integrate this, and then come up, come speak openly about it? Yeah. Like was it a journey there for you too?

Sara (00:16:07):
Oh, for sure. And we’re living in the greatest time, truly, because all you have to do is go into YouTube and type in the word soul or spirit or awakening or channeling or <laugh>. And you’re gonna see that it’s a very common thing. You’re gonna see actresses and famous people that are having conversations with, you know, spiritual people about channeling, about metaphysics, about all this stuff. It’s so much more mainstream than it ever has been. And yet most of us are, my family is very open to all of this now, but early on in my journey, it was not something they were familiar with or understood. And so to me, it is about your soul’s purpose here on earth. It’s about you. And I had to accept myself that this is the truth of who I am. When I was really authentic with myself, my entire life has been about spirituality, has been about connecting to that higher power and that love.

Sara (00:17:21):
And while I thoroughly enjoyed my time in the corporate world and had great clients and worked with incredible people, I never had a love or a passion for it. In fact, at one point I said, you know, if I could just have conversations all day about all this spiritual stuff and this amazing, uh, transformational work and consciousness like that would just be the best. Well, fast forward, that’s what I do. But I, I had to get to a place where I accepted and approved of myself. And my greatest fear was that my dad would not understand and that it would affect or damage our relationship because I didn’t know if he would understand. And in fact, it came to a conversation one day where he said, you know, I, I just don’t understand. And I said, that’s okay. You’re still my dad. I’m still your daughter.

Sara (00:18:17):
I still love you. It’s okay that you don’t understand all this stuff. And it just took all the pressure off. You know, there, there are people all over the world that are looking for this information. There are people all over the world whose lives are changed by you by hearing you and hearing what you share and hearing your journey. And I realize we’ve all been on a very similar journey. And I knew there was also my soul family out there and these kindred souls that I was also meant to connect with in this, in this experience. And the council says, you know, putting yourself out in the world so that you confined your kindred souls and those that you’re meant to connect with and, and play a role in each other’s life. You know, you, you have the technology and the platforms to do that now.

Sara (00:19:03):
And I, I, I came to this moment where I just imagined my life if I didn’t share this wisdom with the world and played it safe and, you know, stayed in my little corporate box, I, I came to the end of my life and I was like, oh my gosh, I just, I would regret that so much and I have to do this. And there was just a moment and I’m like, I, I just have to do this. And it’s, it’s like somebody gave me the analogy once, like a mother duck who has 10 little duck ducklings. She doesn’t sit around and try to get them all to agree with where she’s going, right. She just goes, and the little ducklings follow <laugh>. And so I just kind of moved in my direction and, and my worst fear never happened. My dad has been incredibly supportive.

Sara (00:19:53):
Um, my whole family has my dad, my mom, my, my family, my dad had then taken on the role of explaining to the family what channeling was and that it’s a very natural thing. And so, you know, it it, we take this all so serious sometimes. I often tell people this, who are putting a website out there or putting a video on YouTube. And I said, well, as much as you think everybody you know is gonna see that, most of them never ever will. They won’t, unless they’re aligned with that in some way or curious about that in some way. And they may not understand. But when you’re really in your truth, people will, will resonate with that, or they won’t. And that’s okay. That’s okay. And I think as you would probably say, you couldn’t not do this. This is just who you are and your way of expressing yourself authentically. And if, if that doesn’t resonate with someone, that’s okay.

Guy (00:20:55):
Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, when you decided to own it and shift how much of your life, how quickly what happened with your life, did it just go off in a completely different trajectory,

Sara (00:21:09):
<laugh>? Yes, it did. It really did. Uh, the council said, when I first started channeling, if you will just live this wisdom, you will live a life beyond your wildest dreams. And I thought, well, I have some really, really big dreams for my life. I don’t know how you could ever lead me in a direction greater than my wildest dreams. But on the other side of all of this, I’m like, oh, I absolutely get it now. And I do live a life beyond my wildest dreams. But there was so much resistance. The council says, when you’re resisting anything, you’re resisting everything. And so when you’re resisting stepping into your truth, when you’re resisting putting yourself out there, when you’re resisting creating what it is you really wanna create, you’re resisting everything in your life. So I felt like nothing was moving forward. I felt like my relationship was stagnant.

Sara (00:22:04):
My living situation was stagnant, my income was stagnant. My how, I just didn’t feel. I felt a lot of resistance. I didn’t feel that flow or that inspiration or that creativity or excitement. But the second I made that choice, and, you know, I made that choice, and then I had some doubt and I made the choice again. And then I had some doubt. And then I thought, well, maybe I’m not gonna do this. And then I found myself back doing it again. And there was a moment where I just no longer looked back and I was just all in, as you might say. And that is when everything of my life changed. Now I wasn’t doing that to try to get my life to change. And I see this sometimes that people say, okay, I’m all in now. The universe should put a hundred thousand dollars in my bank account.

Sara (00:22:50):
It may work like that. It, it may be something better than that. And I share, and I’m, I just, if I could say one thing to anyone, it’s like, when you really start moving in the direction of who you really are and what your truth is and living your purpose and living your highest potential, the best part is the people that show up on your path, that change your life forever. Connections and resources that money cannot buy. And one of the first steps, I was doing private sessions for people in person at first, then I started doing them on the phone. This was long before Zoom. And then I started doing little small groups. And someone in one of those small groups said, oh, there’s this weekly call that this woman does where she interviews people like you. Maybe you should go on that show or that call.

Sara (00:23:46):
And then I started doing a couple of small webinar shows. Um, they were audio only at that time, and I didn’t realize that it was preparing me and preparing me and preparing me. And so at one point I went on a tele summit or a webinar that was extremely successful, and all of a sudden I had hundreds of people wanting to do sessions all over the world. Now it was global. That turned into then a lot of the sessions being very repetitive. So I started, uh, creating courses on the things that the council was talking about in one-on-one sessions. One of the very first ones was Manifesting Your Soul’s Desires. And then it turned into courses, then it turned into a master’s class program, which is now over 700 people globally that are part of the council’s work every week. And we do a live call.

Sara (00:24:37):
And, and, um, but you know, there were, there were people along the way. I did a show called Beyond the Ordinary Show with John Bergos, changed my life connections that came from, that changed my life. I was, um, contacted by a man by the name of Kevin Moore that was doing a docu-series called They Call Us Channelers. That was another life-changing moment. Then I was contacted by Gaia TV to do, uh, they came to my house for three days to do a episode for interviews with extra dimensionals that changed my life. Then I was introduced to Mike Dooley, who was in The Secret, who is the one who writes notes from the universe and has a company called Tut and has a huge podcast and, um, an incredible organization, New York Times bestselling author. And he wanted to do a live event together. We had 25,000 people on live that turned into a course of over 4,000 people.

Sara (00:25:36):
And then he said, do you wanna write a book? And I said, well, I kind of have a book. And he said, well, why don’t I connect you to Hay House? And in two weeks I had two signed book deals with Hay House one for the book that was already in process and one for a book that they wanted us to do. Um, myself and Mike Dooley. And I, I couldn’t have figured any of that out. I couldn’t have made any of that happen. I couldn’t have taken enough determined action. Right. Or, or worked hard enough to make that happen. Yes, you have to follow the inspiration. You know, I, I have an incredible, I I, one of those other people is the person who I met, who built my website and created all the technology for this to be possible. And then he met someone who was an another addition to our team that helped take our business to another level.

Sara (00:26:30):
And, you know, it’s, it’s the people, the connections, the things that show up along the way that you cannot figure out from your starting point. But when you, it’s a Steve Jobs quote, but you know, you don’t connect the dots by looking forward. You just arrive at your destination at some point, and you turn and look at how far you’ve come and you know that there’s, there’s divine orchestration. Something with some greater intelligence that is, that is guiding all of this and orchestrating all of this. And so I would say to anybody, you know, just start. Just follow the energy. Let the light guide the way each day. Do what brings you joy. Do what you love to do, follow the breadcrumbs. And it will all come together. It will beyond your wildest dreams and you will live a life that you could not have ever imagined.

Sara (00:27:22):
But it feels like it happened overnight. But it was a, it was a beautiful journey. It was a journey. And just like, I, I like to hike and one of my favorite hikes that I used to do all the time when I lived in a different location was about four miles. But it was pretty high up and it was a, a pretty strenuous hike. But I loved, I loved it every time I did it, I loved getting to the top. I loved jogging down, you know, when I was done after I got to the top and I did it almost every weekend. Right? So when you enjoy the beauty and the love and the miracles and the things that come out of the blue as you’re on this journey, oh my gosh, everything just goes to another level. And you see that life really is extraordinary if you will allow it to be. And that all comes from, you know, who are you and why are you here and what’s your purpose? And what, what does living your highest potential mean to you? Cuz it doesn’t mean the same to everyone, nor is it intended to.

Guy (00:28:32):
Well, I’m glad I asked the question and I wanna reiterate the quote that you said, um, if you resist anything, you resist everything. Is that correct?

Sara (00:28:42):
Yeah.

Guy (00:28:42):
Council really resonated. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>

Sara (00:28:44):
Talks about it a lot in, um, the, the book, the Wisdom of the Council, which is channel messages mm-hmm. <affirmative> for Living Your Purpose, that anytime you’re resisting anything, so you can think that you’re in resistance because of some issue going on in your relationship or with a family member or your finances or feeling like, oh, I’m not living my purpose. And there’s all this resistance around it. When you’re resisting anything at all, it can be completely unrelated, but you’re resisting everything cuz you’re really in a slower, lower level of consciousness, lower rate of vibration and frequency. You’re not allowing a lot of energy. And the, the council says that is the formula for creation. Consciousness is what moves energy into form. Your level of consciousness is determined by your vibration, which is what you’re either allowing all this energy or you are in resistance, not allowing the energy to flow in your life the way it is intended to.

Sara (00:29:40):
And it doesn’t, what is causing that? When you’re resisting anything, you’re resisting everything. And sometimes people, they watch a documentary that’s life changing or they watch something like The Secret or they go to a, a workshop over a weekend or a personal development thing and it’s like they feel like on top of the world and they have all this energy and this enthusiasm and they’re so inspired. Well, all they did was let go of the resistance and all that energy that’s been there all along started flowing through them. What often happens after that is they feel that for a while. But for example, if you go to a couple day workshop or retreat or something like that, but then you go back home to the same environment where you were in all that resistance, you are triggered by that environment essentially. You go back to the same old ways of thinking, now you’re back in resistance again. And it seemed like, oh, well that wasn’t sustainable, it’s always available to you. It’s, it’s your natural state. It’s not, sustainable isn’t even the word. It’s your natural state. But when you go back into the same vibration and frequency that created the resistance, it feels like the energy’s not there anymore. But it’s always available.

Guy (00:30:58):
Yeah. And what would you say then to how, even in your own life practices or things that you started to implement to work with that resistance? Because especially when you step back into, like you say, you go away for a weekend and, and quite often it’s like you’ve expanded, but then you’re pushing against everybody else’s. Um, yeah. Little, little bubble. And you’re like, oh, you’ve changed what’s going on there. Let me squash you back down so you fit back in with me.

Sara (00:31:29):
Yeah. You know, yeah. They, they, so they refer to that as vibrational resonance that when you are with someone, especially if you are close friendship or family member or someone you live with, when you walk into a room with someone, your vibrations are seeking to resonate whether you’re conscious of it or not. So if someone’s in a very high vibration and you’re excited and you had a great day and you walk into the room with someone and you just know you don’t even, you don’t even have to be that conscious to go, Ooh, they’re not in a good spot. Right? Their heads down, they got a frown on their face, they look overwhelmed or whatever it is. But you walk into a room with someone and your, your vibrations are seeking to resonate whether you’re conscious of it or not. If you’re in a very high vibration, someone else is in a low vibration, it doesn’t feel very good.

Sara (00:32:13):
And a lot of times you wanna try to drag ’em up where you are. But what normally happens is the person in the lower vibration, especially if it’s someone you’re in a relationship with, has learned over time how to trigger you down into their vibration. So now, even though you’re in a much lower vibration, there’s a vibrational resonance, they feel a little bit better cuz there’s not this resistance because of the lack of resonance. But now you worse and you think, oh, it’s this person’s fault that I don’t feel good. It’s this person’s fault that I can’t become who I wanna be. And when you become conscious of it, there’s nothing to really do, but be conscious of that experience when you’re having it. And the number one thing that entangles us is judgment. Judgment of ourself constantly trying to fix ourself, constantly trying to heal ourself, constantly trying to be enough, constantly doing more in order to be worthy.

Sara (00:33:15):
When we’re constantly in judgment of ourself, we are holding ourself in lower vibrations. We are often our in judgment of others. We think other people need to change in order for us to be happy. And anytime you try to change someone else, they’re gonna go into resistance. You’re probably already in resistance. Right. And then there’s this constant need through our judgment that the circumstances and conditions around us are not the way they should be. So we’re in judgment of our circumstances, conditions, the world, others, and ultimately ourselves. And it’s always going to entangle you in a lower vibration or a lower frequency. I found myself as I became more conscious and aware of that, that the less I judged myself, the less I judged others. And when you know that the truth of who you are is this divine being of infinite love and light, that you are this extension of source, God, the divine, that you are that light, you are that energy, you are that consciousness.

Sara (00:34:20):
When you know that what you really are is pure love and you know how to access that state of consciousness, of pure love, then you can let everybody be who they are, where they are in their own creations of reality. And you can be the pure love that you are and just love them. And then you’ll find that there’s a lot less resistance in your life. And when there’s a lot less resistance in your life, there’s a lot more energy that flows into creating your reality the way you want it to be. But the big delineation there being not because something’s wrong with your reality, because you love the peace, you love the harmony, you love the inspiration, you love the creativity, you love the abundance you’re experiencing, you love the prosperity you’re experiencing, you love the wellbeing you’re experiencing. So that creative energy is just expanding all that you already are into more and more and more forms of creation and manifestation that reflect that back to you as creator within your own reality.

Guy (00:35:26):
What would you say, or, uh, I guess, you know, you obviously worked with a lot of people as well, and you see very, uh, I’m sure you see themes and, and people’s situations and start to come out. And for me, on my personal journey, Sarah, there, once I started to have experiences, I had a reference point and I started to understand all the very things that you just spoke about. Yeah. And then, and then once you get that, that it’s like a thread, once you get that connection, you go, I got something to work with you. And then you can, you can build a thread into a row and, and all of a sudden you, you, you’re fully embodying it and living it and you’re like, wow. But until that thread came, um, it was, it was so much, it was so like, it’s like, is this real? Is this really cool? Is this like, I kind of get it intellectually, but I’ve got no reference point here. And for me, I, I sat in my suffering for quite a long time. <laugh>, you know, because that hadn’t really ignited yet. How do we bridge that? Or how do you bridge that? Or what do the council say to start, I guess leaning in and trusting that, that it is possible for people.

Sara (00:36:40):
Yeah. So anytime we put a system in isolation, and you yourself are a system, right? It creates chaos. It’s a law of thermodynamics, and we are always connected to everything. And everyone, even this belief that when you love someone and they’re on the other side of the world, you’re, you know, they’re gone and you’re not connected. The truth of our highest potential is that we are all one, one with everything. That you are the isness of all that is, and connected to everything and everything is connected to you. So when we create this belief, um, council says, the heaviest densest human emotion is shame. And a lot of times an awakening experience has something to do with shame. Either a loss of a business, a uh, end of a relationship, a near death experience, uh, a failure of some way, a death, um, you know, a disease, right? And, and a lot of times people get stuck in this regret or shame and they say that’s the heaviest densest human emotion. And so a lot of that suffering comes from those beliefs about yourself. And then to hold yourself in separation from your highest self, your truth, all that’s available to you, and connections and inspiration, you’re in separation. There’s typically a lot of shame or regret or guilt about that. You’re, you’re in isolation. And that’s what creates the suffering.

Sara (00:38:26):
When you really allow yourself to be who you are and you can show up as the light that you are, you’re not that relationship. You’re not, that you’re not that disease, you’re not that lost, you’re not that mistake or failure. There is no such thing. We realize we aren’t our circumstances and conditions, and we begin to ask that question, who am I? Wait if my marriage just ended, but I’m still here and I still have a life? Who am I if I’m not that label of whatever it is, whether it’s employee or son or daughter or parent or spouse or whatever that is, right? And so when you start asking yourself that question, you begin to draw to you awareness of who you really are. Now, it might go against what you’ve ever believed yourself to be. It will likely go against everything everybody else has told you, you are, or the programs and the belief systems that are within the mass conscious collective.

Sara (00:39:26):
And I think that’s what people struggle with a lot. They’ve never seen someone else living in this level of truth. And to that, I would say, you know, there is no hierarchy here. No one person is better than the other. But I liken it to having a house full of family members at the holiday or something, and everyone is asleep and you wake up in the middle of the night and you’re the only one awake, right? And everyone else is sort of asleep when you find yourself in that moment, right? Just think about this, it’s sort of a funny analogy, but if you turned on a beautiful piece of music or started cooking something really delicious, and then everybody woke up and was like, oh, that smells delicious. What are you doing? Oh, that’s beautiful piece of music. What are you listening to? Right? Your light, your truth, your beauty, your pure love, that you are, your joy, your abundance, your wellbeing will draw people to you and you become very magnetic.

Sara (00:40:33):
And the more you allow yourself to live your truth and really be who you are and do what’s fun for you, and do the things that you enjoy and do the things that you love, you’ll find all of a sudden you have so many connections, so many people in your life, so many wonderful relationships. And what I noticed in my own journey was that the more I kept myself in that isolation, the more I started doubting as you shared the incredible experiences I was having. But when I started finding other people who I could talk to about that, and we started sharing and realized we had a lot of the same experiences, all of a sudden, not only did I start having more awareness and more magical and miraculous things happening, now I had people to share them with and we were expanding all together.

Sara (00:41:19):
And so this is a big reason why I created my master’s class community. So there’s people all over the world that are sharing what they’re experiencing and the awareness that’s coming in, the miracles that are happening in the manifestations they’re creating, and they’re sharing their own experiences of intuition or automatic writing that are almost exactly the same at the same time. And then you realize, oh wait, there’s so much more going on here. I am not alone. There’s something incredible happening here. There’s a huge awakening shift in consciousness. Something’s going on, and you’re not only a part of it, you’re a away show In that movement, in that greatest awakening or transformation of human consciousness that has ever occurred, now all of a sudden you find yourself in your power. And because you’re in your power, there’s all sorts of inspiration, there’s all sorts of creativity, there’s all sorts of ideas that come. There’s so much co-creation, there’s, it’s fun to share. And you realize you’re not trying to fix yourself or anyone else. You’re actually sharing. And in that everything is expanding. And I think that’s where we are now. So anybody who feels like they’ve been on this journey and it’s been fairly isolating, or they’ve felt very alone, there may have been a purpose for that at one point in time, and a lot of us experienced it. But now everything is about connection, collaboration, sharing, and expansion, which is exactly what you, thank you. You’re doing <laugh>.

Guy (00:42:52):
Yeah, exactly. Yes, yes, yes. Just when, soon as I, as soon as I began to honor it and own it fully, yeah, then everything started to shift. Yeah. Without a doubt. Yeah. Um, I have to ask you as well, I can’t believe I haven’t even asked you this, and we like three quarters the way through the podcast, but, um, who are the council <laugh> and what, what <laugh>, why are they here? Why are they channeling this information through?

Sara (00:43:21):
Yeah. They’re here to help us really live our highest potential of what’s possible. No matter how awake we ever are in this human experience, we’re still perceiving reality through limited human sense. And they are at a rate of vibration and the level of consciousness where they have a much grander view of who we are and what’s really going on here. So they are a collective of ascended master beings, which a, with a much grander perspective of this human experience, that they will also say, I, if you are hearing them, no matter when you’re hearing them, you are also channeling them to you. You, you also have an aspect of the council within you, and they say, you are us and we are you. And they say, you are the council here on earth. And our part was to move our consciousness into physical form, to be part of the human experience at this time.

Sara (00:44:21):
And they stay in their higher levels of consciousness to guide us on that journey, uh, but are truly never separate from us <affirmative>. And they are a collective. I I always feel like even if I was doing a private session with someone or a small group, I feel their higher selves are part of that conversation and part of that wisdom that’s coming through. And they will say, this is your wisdom. You never intended to forget it. And they, you know, in every one of our master’s class programs and every one of our courses, we do q and a, and they say, you know, yes, you’re asking a question and yes, we’re gonna give you an answer. But it’s really about the awareness. What you’re saying is, I want more awareness on wellbeing. I want more awareness on these limited beliefs. I want more awareness on abundance.

Sara (00:45:16):
It’s about bringing through greater awareness or consciousness. But again, as you move into that greater awareness, you summon more and more energy to move yourself into that reality that you wanna create or move that reality through you. So they’re always here, they’re always available to you. I have many people that I’ve taken through the process of learning how to channel that, come to me and say, ah, I’m don’t know if I should tell you this or not, but I think I’m also channeling the council. And I say, yes, of course you are <laugh>, how could you not be? Right? We’re, it’s, it’s, we’re all one, and this higher level of consciousness is available to everyone.

Sara (00:45:59):
I just do this every day for hours and hours a day. And it is my focus, it is my attention, it is my passion. It is my joy from the first time I ever felt the love, the energy that they are unconditional, unwavering, pure love in every moment. I’ve, I’ve channeled thousands and thousands of hours, 10,000 plus at this point. They have never, ever, no matter what the circumstance, deviated from that unconditional, unwavering love for anyone. And that to me is everything. And so it’s my highest joy. It’s my highest excitement. I think it’s my highest potential and my purpose to bring their wisdom to the world and share it with anyone who’s ready to receive it.

Guy (00:46:58):
I, I have to ask you a question as well on, and this is more of a selfish question, but I’m, I I need to ask you is, do you get tired from the channeling or has that a, uh, have you adapted your nervous system over time?

Sara (00:47:13):
I don’t get tired. I’m tired. <laugh>. It, it’s, it’s, the vibration is, it’s such a high vibration, such a high frequency. It’s very energizing. It, it did take some time for me to acclimate and integrate so I could hold that vibration at first. I, I would channel, you know, an hour, hour and a half, uh, once a day for sure. But you know, probably only once a week or maybe twice a week at one point, I was channeling six to eight hours every single day. And so I believe that experience led me to integrate it at, when I first started channeling my voice was very different. It, it was so fast, uh, that, like I said, I was just trying to keep up with it. Now, when I’m channeling the cadence of my speech is a little bit different. I always channel with my eyes closed.

Sara (00:48:09):
It’s just my experience right now and has been for the last 10 years. At first, I thought I was doing something wrong, or maybe it wasn’t really channeling because my only experience of knowing about channeling was people that completely left their own, their consciousness completely left the body and something else came in. So if you’ve ever heard of, uh, Edgar Casey or Roho or Mafu, or even Esther Hicks says that she’s, her consciousness leaves her body and that Abraham Hicks comes in. I don’t have that experience. I hear everything. I just experience it from a much higher level of consciousness. But my consciousness is absolutely one with the council. And I, I hear it all, I hear it from a very different perspective. And if the, if someone’s asking about something very sensitive, like for me, when someone’s asking the council questions about animal welfare or animal cruelty or those types of things, I’m extremely, my human is very sensitive to those things.

Sara (00:49:09):
When I’m channeling the council and my consciousness is one with them, I experience those questions and the awareness that they’re bringing through about them from that state of pure, unconditional, unwavering love, the council would explain that it’s resistance that usually causes such, uh, fatigue, burnout, overwhelm, right? We’re creating so much resistance in because of our beliefs and our ways of thinking that the more you just let go, you let go of that resistance, feeling energized and feeling that vitality is a very natural state of being. Now, I absolutely honor my body because there are times when I need a lot more sleep, or I need a lot more rest. It became very clear at one point in my journey that I was supposed to move, or, or I was being guided to go from doing hours and hours of one-on-one sessions to that were very, um, redundant.

Sara (00:50:06):
A lot of the same information was coming through to doing group things, which is why I created my master’s class program where every week, you know, we do a live 90 minute call, including q and a. And, and most people will say all the same things that they’re dealing with are all the same things that come through as answers and awareness on those calls. So it has, I’ve had to really practice everything they they teach, which is follow the energy and let the light guide the way. If I’m trying to push and force something to happen the way my limited human mind thinks it should, that creates resistance for me. That can lead to exhaustion or overwhelm. But I really, when I follow the energy, let the light guide the way, stay in the flow, it’s very easy to maintain that high vibration and that energy level. And for me, the number one thing that moves me into resistance is judgment about myself.

Sara (00:51:01):
And I think for most people, even when we talk about things like this and they’re each person’s own extraordinary gifts and abilities that everyone has, it’s, am I worthy of, of that gift? Am I worthy of living that life? You know, I was <laugh>, oh, I, I was in the corporate world. I I’m not a doctor, I’m not a a teacher, I’m not a spiritual guru. I’m what? But I woke up in the middle of the night and it was Sarah Landon is a spiritual teacher. And I thought, well, the only person I knew at that point in time that I was a spiritual teacher was Wayne Dyer. And Wayne Dyer was a doctor. Wayne Dyer had been doing this for 30 years. Wayne Dyer had tons and tons of bestselling books. And I thought, how, who am I to ever be that, or even call myself that? That’s not even possible, right?

Sara (00:51:54):
We’re we live in this society of education degrees, diplomas, certifications, you know, and then you’re there, right? And yet a lot of people get them and they’re still not living authentically or doing what they wanna do. And so a lot of times people have extraordinary abilities, have talents, have things they wanna do, wanna create a podcast, wanna write a book, wanna start, you know, doing leading group sessions or retreats or whatever it is. But then they create resistance through their own self-judgment that they’re not worthy or they’re not enough yet, or they haven’t accomplished enough or done enough or had enough experience or enough certifications yet in order to just be who they are. The council says, you’re everything you wish to be, you already are. So their ultimate teaching, that means there’s nothing to do except what brings you joy, what you love, what’s fun for you, what lights you up, what you’re passionate about.

Sara (00:52:58):
And I was 100% the person that very much struggled with that. I was a goal oriented person that had a five year plan and a 10 year plan and a three year plan that broke all that down in a one year plan, all the way down to what I was gonna do every single day to accomplish my goals, right? So you’re everything you wish to be, you already are. It’s about allowing it by doing the things that bring you joy, doing the, you love, following the energy and letting the light guide the way. And I tried to prove them wrong in <laugh> every possible way you can imagine, till I finally came to the end of myself and I went, all right, let’s try it your way. What am I supposed to do? Okay, follow the energy, let the light guide the way, do the things that bring me joy, do the things I love, and somehow I’m gonna accomplish my goal for my five year goal.

Sara (00:53:49):
And I will tell you, <laugh>, it happened so fast, it really did. But I, I, this is not about testing the universe. It’s about this is just your natural state of being and creating. This way is natural. And they will explain that there are different things in different levels of consciousness. So the third dimension of consciousness is, uh, the basis of it is separation. You’re separate from where you wanna be. You’re separate from who you wanna be. If you want something, it’s out there because it’s not here. So you have a lack, you have some sort of limitation. You’re in separation, which creates fear. All these different things worry, overwhelm. So then you try to figure out how to get what you want, and you go push and force an effort, create more resistance. It takes a really long time. When you’re in that level of density and that rate of vibration or such a low frequency, it does take years and years and years.

Sara (00:54:47):
Then you start to realize, okay, I’m not my circumstances, I’m not my conditions. I can change them. And there’s, there’s an upliftment in there. You raise your vibration, you raise your consciousness, oh, I can change things. And they call that the fourth dimension of transformation. And that’s where, you know, someone who maybe first came across the law of attraction and all of a sudden manifested something really big in a really short period of time that they put on the vision board because they had let go of a certain level of resistance by raising their vibration, their frequency, but they couldn’t, they couldn’t repeat it and they couldn’t do it sort of on command or demand, right? And so when we go beyond judgment of constantly needing to change things, to elevate ourself into what they call the fifth dimension of pure love, where you are everything you wish to be, to me it’s that state of heaven on earth or paradise or new earth.

Sara (00:55:41):
It’s not a different place. It’s a different state of consciousness. Well, the vibrations must higher there. The frequencies much higher there. You experience instant manifestation and what they call true creation. True creation has no agenda. What you want and what you need, show up even before you know you need it. It shows up and it’s a yes. And that’s what creation and manifestation is like in the fifth dimension of pure love, which is what allows things to be instant, easy, effortless, harmonious, automatic. And there is no experience of separation. You don’t have to entangle with lack, limitation, fear, and separation to create more of what you want in the most magical and miraculous ways and live this extraordinary life that we all know some are within us as possible for us.

Guy (00:56:36):
Incredible. I can just imagine everyone nodding their head listening to that then that’s beautiful. And I’m aware of the time and just wrapping up the podcast, Sarah, I got two questions for you. The first one is, is when is your book out?

Sara (00:56:50):
Yeah, November 1st, 2022. So I think probably by the time this, uh, this airs would be, should be pretty close. So it’s, uh, published by Hay House. You can get it on Amazon, Barnes and Noble, anywhere books are sold. Hudson, uh, the Wisdom of the Council. You can see it behind me. Channel Messages for Living Your Purpose. You can also go to the wisdom of the council.com or wisdom of the council.com or sarah landon.com, S a r a l a n d o n.com. You’ll find links to it there. Um, and then my follow-on book coming out with Mike Dooley will be in 2023 and more to come after that. But, uh, the audiobook, a question I get a lot will be released on November 1st as well. So you can pre-order the, um, print version of the book now and you can purchase the audiobook November 1st, 2022.

Guy (00:57:39):
Amazing. I was literally took the words I my mouth. I was gonna say, is it gonna be on Audible? Because Yes. I I listen to Audible every night when I’m cooking. Yeah.

Sara (00:57:47):
So, um, I do as well. And, um, we’re gonna have this, I’m sure by the time this podcast airs, you’ll be able to actually go to the wisdom of the council.com and find a free 60 minute preview of the audiobook, which is just was so much fun to create an even more fun to see it in, in manifested form. Um, cuz I’m an audio audiobook person too. But the interesting thing that I love about this is I take the book and I turn on the audiobook and I, and I follow through with the actual print version of the book at the same time. And it just takes all of the wisdom and information even deeper. All the wisdom in the book is all channeled from the council. So, uh, that’s how I like to experience it. I listen to it at the same time as I’m following through with the words on the book, and it’s a pretty amazing experience. It just takes, it takes it even deeper.

Guy (00:58:42):
Yeah. Well, congratulations. Thank you. And congratulations on everything what you’re doing. It’s incredible, Sarah. It’s, it’s truly inspiring. And, um, I asked one other question and that is, with everything we’ve covered today, is there anything you wanna leave the listeners to ponder on?

Sara (00:59:00):
If you knew you already are everything you wish to be and there was nothing left to do or accomplish, you were already more than enough and worthy of having it all. What next? What experience do you wanna have from here? Who do you wanna be? How do you wanna express yourself? What experiences do you wanna have? What do you wanna create? Because that’s really the truth of who you are. You, you’re infinitely worthy, or you wouldn’t be here. There’s nothing left to do, but what brings you joy and what you love and to create the experiences you wanna have. That’s why we’re here. So when you sort of start at that mountaintop, you’re already worthy. You’re already more than enough. You’re already everything you wish to be. From that place of knowing that everything you want and need will show up even before you know you need it.

Sara (00:59:54):
What experiences do you wanna have? What do you wanna create? What do you love? What would be fun for you? And, and I promise you, whatever the answer to that is, you, you absolutely have the power to create that in your life as your reality. In fact, that’s why you’re here. And that really, ultimately is your purpose. Thank you so much for having me. Uh, there’s a lot of free resources at my website, sarah landon.com. You’ll see that there’s a little tab there that actually says free resources. Uh, so I encourage people to, to go there. There’s tons of different channel messages. Just, just go through ’em and if one lights up to you, start there and just follow the energy and, and you will draw yourself into the awareness that answers every question that you have too.

Guy (01:00:47):
Amazing. Thank you so much for coming on the show, Sarah. Thank you. I love every minute of it.

Sara (01:00:52):
Well, this is what I love and this is what brings me joy. So thank you for the opportunity to, to be here with you. I have really enjoyed our conversation. Thank you guys.