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Guy (00:00):
Guy here. Welcome to my podcast. Today’s guest is Jeremiah Pospisil. Jeremiah, I hope I pronounced your surname correctly. I love this conversation. I’m what a top guy. Today, Jeremiah had a motorbike accident, and from that he had an extraordinary N D e A near death experience. And the, the big thing to come out of it was the power of perspective and power perspective and perception on things. How a simple shift, uh, in your life and in thinking can literally change your life, which, uh, was fascinating. We also dive into the topic of the purpose of life and why we are here in the first place. This conversation goes deep. Jeremiah is AIA Hael guy, and, um, I’m excited for you to be here in this conversation today. Of course, if you wanna go deeper with the work yourself, uh, myself as live and flow, we run workshops, one day workshops and three and five night retreats here in Australia. We’ll also be in Europe and Portugal through 2023 as well in July. If you’re seeing this and you wanna find out more about our work, simply click the links below or come back to live in flow.co. We also offer a free seven days of meditation, and the link is below, below, <laugh>, somewhere, <laugh>, uh, perfect if you are new to meditation as well. Anyway, enjoy this conversation with Jeremiah. It’s awesome.

Guy (01:32):
Jeremiah, welcome to the podcast.

Jeremiah (01:34):
Thank you. I appreciate you guys very much. Thank you for having me on here.

Guy (01:37):
You know, every, every time I bring on a guest mate, we always end up chatting before, and I feel like we, we could talk for hours even before we hit the record button. So I’m like, oh my God, we gotta start getting this down on, on tape, so to say before we, before we chew it up anymore. But, um, I, I’m genuinely excited to see what comes out of today.

Jeremiah (01:57):
I am as well,

Guy (01:58):
I ask everyone if a, a stranger sat next to you at a dinner party and asked you what you did for a live-in, what would you say?

Jeremiah (02:06):
Um, I, I would tell them before, uh, my nde that I was a crane operator or I was in the military. Um, and I really defined my myself by what I did. Um, now I define myself by who I am and I think a lot of people really should look at that. You know, who are you? And that’s one question that I had my whole life is who am I? So if I was to sit down next to somebody, I would say that I am a encourager of life and truth. I am, um, a voice of reason behind the reality of our lives, and that I am ultimately an example of what love is in this existence.

Guy (02:46):
Amazing. You know, it’s an interesting one, isn’t it? I only hear it yesterday. I was listening to an audible while I was cooking, and I think that very thing came up. They say, well, why do people ask? Who, um, what do I do? I want people to ask me who am I? You know, what’s behind all that? And, and I always find it a great place to start a conversation cuz it, it just opens up all directions. Cuz everybody, I I get on pretty much don’t really identify by what they do anymore,

Jeremiah (03:13):
<laugh>. Right. You can’t, I mean, because what we do changes so much, but who we are is, is should be the very, um, static nature of our lives. You know, and I, I used to think that as, you know, I would define somebody by what they did. And for me it’s more of who are you outside of your job? What do you do? What, what are you passionate about? What do you love about life? You know, and how do you express yourself in every circumstance that you have, uh, to do that, you know? And I find that to be more revealing about who a person is, it’s not what you do. Cuz what you do is just a byproduct of what you need. You know? So we need money. We need a house, we need a, a job, you know? And so we do these things in, in hopes that, you know, that we provide that.

Jeremiah (03:55):
But ultimately it’s not about that. It’s about who we are. And that’s something that I questioned my life, um, for the entire day of it until I had my, my near death experience. And then I had to realize that, well, I am something beyond my job. I am actually something behind that. I’m be, I’m something behind my body, you know? And when I, I had my near death experience, I had to look at myself and say, what is behind my body? You know, um, who am I behind this skin? Am I this skin? Am I this body? But I’m not, you know, my, my hair falls out, my arm could be chopped off, my leg could go away, but I’m still ultimately me. So what is me? Who am I? You know? And I found that, I mean, I’m like everybody else out there. I want to feel love, you know? And that’s something that I found for my nde, is that love for me was the energy, or was the life force of, of, of my, my existence. You know, we all go out and seek love. We, we want relationships. We want things that make us feel love. I mean, ultimately, it’s my belief that every decision that we make is based upon love. It’s based upon love of a, a safe space or somebody that we know that will care for us. You know? So love for me turned out to be the ultimate reality of existence.

Guy (05:11):
Yeah, I hear you. I hear you. So before you had your nde, you, you spoke about the military and also a, um, a crane operator. Is that correct? Right. Yes. And at, when taking yourself back, and I’m assuming you did the military before the crane operating Right. And then moved into crane op from the military, I’m guessing here.

Jeremiah (05:32):
Right? I went back and forth. I went, I had a break in service from the military, so I went cranes and the military, then back to cranes again.

Guy (05:38):
Got you. Got, yeah. So, so when you take yourself back to old Jeremiah before the NDE then, and those very things that you spoke about, ultimately all his love and, and this, this connection in essence that we are all connected to something far greater than that’s tangible with the physical senses. Right? Right. So were, were you questioned things back then? Was there something within you that was driving you to look at that, or were you just oblivious and totally just kind of in, I dunno if I wanna say the matrix, but in that world of what you were doing?

Jeremiah (06:09):
Yeah, I mean, so, you know, you think about our lives. We, we stem from a place of not understanding anything. And we’re taught as a, at a very young age what to be and how to be it, you know? So for me, you know, being a baby, I was taught that I had to feed myself and I had to create an existence of happiness, you know? So I continued on that process through my whole life where I was constantly seeking to make myself happy and feed myself and bring myself money so that I can survive, you know? So I never really thought outside of those parameters because I really thought that’s all reality was, you know? Um, but looking back on it, I see how ultimately everything I was doing was trying to f to facilitate an environment of happiness and love. Right now, after my n d e, it, it all kind of shifted everything that I believed about myself and who I was and what I did, um, was wiped away.

Jeremiah (07:05):
It, it was turned into this, this experience that I had to really question where I got my love from, what created love, what created happiness in my life. Because I, I dealt with a lot of depression. I dealt with a lot of anxiety throughout my whole life. And I had believed that what that was doing was me trying to be somebody, um, that I wasn’t, I was trying to curtail my, um, experience with others to what they needed in that environment. And I wasn’t very true to myself. So after my near death experience, having lost my sense of reality, I had to really look at myself and what am I, wh where do I get my love from? Where do I get my, my environment of, of reality from, you know, so I, I, I never thought about it before then, but it was only after I lost everything and saw things from a different perspective, I was able to mm-hmm. <affirmative> to put everything together.

Guy (07:56):
Okay. So how did the near-death experience happen? What were you doing at the time? What occurred? Yeah.

Jeremiah (08:02):
So the near death experience happened in probably the lowest place of my life. I was dealing with severe depression. I’d been through multiple relationships that I had lost. And I had, I was injured in the military. I had been on pain medication for about 10 years, and it was seen with Oh wow. Chronic, chronic, constant pain from a back injury, which I had six spinal surgeries with. Um, and so I was drinking one night and went out riding my motorcycle and was popping wheelies on the freeway with no helmet on. Oh. And ended up crashing the motorcycle and hitting my head, you know, and, and doing that, I, uh, ended up into a new reality <laugh> of like,

Guy (08:43):
What, what speed were you doing? Do you know when you

Jeremiah (08:45):
Came off? About, about 65, 70 miles per hour?

Guy (08:48):
Ah, because I ride motorbikes and, yeah,

Jeremiah (08:50):
Yeah.

Guy (08:51):
Like,

Jeremiah (08:51):
So, you know. Yeah. You know, so, um, when, when that happened, um, I went into this very dark space. It was an open void. And in this open void, I had these lights surround me to create a tunnel. And these lights just kind of warped in, um, almost like Star Trek or Star Wars, where they go into hyperspace and you go down this, this crazy tunnel and all these lights are coming at you. Well, it was like that all around. I mean, it created a, a, a wow, a tunnel. And in this tunnel, the lights turned into different colors, light, different color lights. And they were the most beautiful, vibrant lights I’d ever seen before. And as were,

Guy (09:32):
Were you in pain at this point? Sorry to interrupt. No, no, no. So you’d come off the bike. Do you remember coming off the bike? Or, or

Jeremiah (09:37):
Just, I, I remember, I remember coming down and then flipping up in the air and hitting my motorcycle, and I remember hitting my head. And when I hit my head, um, I remember thinking to myself like, this is how I die. This is, this is the end of it. Everything that, uh, was my life is now over and this is how I go.

Guy (09:59):
Sorry, I, I just wanna find out a bit more before you go into the end. D you, cause like, were you on a mission to kill yourself that night, do you think? Did you care?

Jeremiah (10:06):
Um, I didn’t care. I, I didn’t care. I was, I had dealt with depression my whole life, and I, I wasn’t trying to kill myself, but I wasn’t trying to be respectful to myself at all. I was just trying to live life and trying to get as many outside experiences into my life that would kind of, um, cover up the pain that I had in my life. You know what I mean? So that’s what this was, this was just an experience for me to drown the pain of, of reality

Guy (10:33):
Far right. So you hit your head and the next thing you know, you’re in this void.

Jeremiah (10:37):
I’m in this, I’m in this complete void of just weightlessness where I’m almost floating. And, uh, and I, you know, I never really thought about near death experiences. My dad had one and tried to explain to me his, and I never really got it, you know? And in this place, I didn’t know what it was. It was completely new. I, I wasn’t feeling any pain. I was floating around freely. And, um, you know, these lights started forming a tunnel around me. And I was in the middle of this tunnel. This tunnel was probably like 50, 40 to 50 feet in diameter. And I remember seeing all these colors, and they looked like pixels on a TV screen. They were different colors. They were, um, different experiences that I had had. And I remember looking at one light thinking, you know, what is this? What are these lights?

Jeremiah (11:27):
What are these colors? Cause they’re so different from what I was just dealing with. I was just on a motorcycle. What happened? And I remember looking at this light, this one pixel out of millions and millions of pixels. And I remember being enveloped by a pixel. And I remember being inside of the pixel, and inside of that pixel was a moment of my life. It was a simple moment. It was nothing that made any sense to me. It was nothing that I, I could remembered. It was just a moment of my life that I was meant to see. And in that moment, it was, it was me at a, um, grocery store or at a, a, um, a gas station, I think it was. And I simply said the words, hi, I said hello to somebody. And I remember the feeling that I had, um, how me saying hello was coming from me.

Jeremiah (12:20):
I remember the, the value of that. And I remember the value of the person receiving, um, the hello and how much it meant to them. They were having a bad day, or they were just not living life happily. And I remember how much my hello meant to them, you know? And it seems like such a mundane thing to think about. I I would never have remembered this experience on my own. And it started to put together a, a, a puzzle that every small circumstance in their life ultimately leads to our placement in reality currently. You know, so that hello subsequently changed that person’s life in a way that was positive for them. And it made me feel good as though I was living my purpose in this life, you know? And so I went down this tunnel and I came out of that experience. Once I knew that, then I saw another experience of where, um, I had this, my mom would send me to go buy milk all the time.

Jeremiah (13:19):
We lived down the street from the store. So me and my brother would go walk down to the, the store to go buy milk or groceries or whatever. Well, this one particular time, there was a guy who wanted to steal my milk from me. And I don’t know about you, but I’ve never had anybody want to steal milk from me. You know, that just seemed ridiculous. I’m like, okay, you know, I don’t, I don’t understand why you’re trying to steal my milk, but I, I didn’t want him to steal my milk. I didn’t want him to take that from my family. And so he ultimately tried to pull the milk from me, and we got into a scuffle and got into a fight. And in this near death experience moment where I went back to that place, I realized something different. It wasn’t this guy trying to steal something for me as much as it was his trying to provide something for his family that he wasn’t able to provide.

Jeremiah (14:01):
And I felt a sense of awe when I looked at him in this new regard and said, this guy is a human just like I am. This guy has struggles just like I do. And so who am I to say that, you know, he’s not looking to find happiness for his life. We’re trying to provide something for his family. And it really touched me, you know? And I never looked at life that way. I looked at people’s reactions as that, that was plain and simple, who they were, but ultimately who they project the world comes from and stems from a long line of, of experiences for them. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, so their truth is different than their reaction, but they’re trying to do something in that reaction. And so I got to see a new, new version of an experience that I thought to be negative.

Jeremiah (14:45):
And I went down this tunnel, and I just started putting these little pieces together that really explained to me what life was, you know? And it really, um, it changed my whole perspective of everything, you know, and, uh, near the end of the tunnel, I remember, you know, and I’d gone through probably 20 or 30 of these experiences where I would put together little pieces of what reality is and, and, and how I’m looking at it versus how it was truly meant to be looked at. You know? And I started to realize that everybody is their own individual person. Although we live in a society where we’re trying to be somebody else, or we’re trying to project ourselves onto another life. You know, we love the car that this person has, and we wanna be that cool. So we’re gonna go buy that car. We wanna buy these clothes.

Jeremiah (15:28):
That’s not who we are. Ultimately, we’re these unique, um, collection of experiences in our life that are completely unique. Nobody has the experience that guy has. Nobody has the experience that Jeremiah has. I have my very own experiences that make me completely unique in all of my viewpoints. And all my truths are based upon those experiences. So I, I tell people, we’re like a Picasso painting. We’re so individually unique. And the moment that we start to embrace the uniqueness of, of everyone, the moment we start to actually value who they are as as a person, you know? And so I got to the end of this tunnel, and there were blank spaces where those pixels and where those colors were, and those colors were, um, colors that I’d never seen before. They were most vivid, beautiful colors, you know. And I got to the end of the, the tunnel, and these pixels were blank.

Jeremiah (16:18):
I could see the outline of where the colors should be, but there was nothing there. And I realized, okay, I may have a chance now to go back and paint these pictures. I may have a chance to go back and create pixels. Right. And the moment that I, that I thought that, I realized that there was a, a, a bean behind me. I realized there was a, um, um, a very large bean, and I, I don’t like to say he’s male or female, but it de definitely was a female or a male energy. It was a very powerful projective energy. Cause male and female is just physical, the nature of, of who we are, right? Our spirits are completely unique. So, but this bean was there, kind of pushed me along this, this entire time, trying to guide me or, or keep me going. And so I noticed the blank spaces.

Jeremiah (17:05):
Then I noticed the bean. I thought, oh, wow, I’m not alone. And as soon as I remember acknowledging the being, he said three words to me. He didn’t speak the whole time. He didn’t try to tell me anything. He said three words become the purpose. And I thought, oh my gosh, I don’t know what the purpose is. What is the purpose? Like, what is the purpose of my life? What is the purpose of me being here on earth? What, what is it? That’s something I’ve been searching for my whole life. And so I didn’t understand what he meant to become the purpose. And immediately after, um, the being spoke that there was a white, um, powerful light that came from infinity and just kind of enveloped my essence of, I was the energy in that moment. And I remember feeling this pure loving, um, energy that just went into who I was and attached itself.

Jeremiah (18:03):
And it became this, this amazing experience. But I didn’t know what the energy was. I knew that it held information. I knew that it held, um, secrets, if you will, but I didn’t know how to define it in that moment. And so after it permeated my body, my essence, I remember immediately being back in my body in the physical world on the side of the freeway, uh, with, I had eight broken ribs. I had a puncture lung, I had a broken wrist, I had fluid filling up in my chest. And I thought, oh my gosh, what was that? I mean, I, I didn’t know what that was. And so I spent, I had to go to the hospital and I had to have two chest tubes put in. I was in the hospital for about, uh, two and a half weeks, you know? Wow. And, um, go

Guy (18:48):
Ahead. Be be before you jump into the hospital. Did you, um, see the being or was it, did you just hear it and feel its presence with

Jeremiah (18:56):
You? I, I felt its presence. I never, I never look back, but it’s almost, I tell people, like, when you’re in the, the grocery store or you’re in a line and you know, somebody is really close to you and you just feel the presence next to you, um, you can’t really define it, but you know that they’re there. And so, all I have is a perception of this being behind me that was just like a shadowy figure, just the head and the shoulders. And it was big, you know? But it was definitely behind me. So I didn’t, I never saw it. I never looked back. It was just a feeling of the presence there.

Guy (19:29):
Yeah. And how, how long do you think you were out for? Like the all that went on? I know, yeah. People struggled with that. Totally. Ev every time I speak to someone,

Jeremiah (19:38):
Yeah. It, um, <laugh>, I’m gonna struggle with it too, you know, but I, I, it was a couple, it was probably a couple minutes. It was a couple minutes. Um, but it, it feels like an eternity. It felt like, you know, time has no bearing. When you go to the other side, it’s, there’s nothing like time. And, you know, people that have these near death experiences know that they know, they, they say two things. I don’t know what time was. And they say, I felt love, you know? And so those are the two things that I was looking to go try to explain afterwards, you know? But yeah, I didn’t, yeah, you don’t feel time. It’s just interesting.

Guy (20:12):
Yeah. So, so, so, so they, obviously you ended up in hospital, you got took, taken to hospital.

Jeremiah (20:17):
Yep. Um, yep.

Guy (20:20):
In how long were you in hospital for, you say two and a half

Jeremiah (20:22):
Weeks? I was in two and a half weeks. Yeah. I went in to have a chest tube put in and then went home for a week and then went back cuz I had to have another chest tube put in. Cause I still had intro, um, bleeding. And so they put another chest tube into me, and I was in there for another week and a half, you know. Okay.

Guy (20:36):
And, and how were you managing that time in hospital? Because obviously you, you’ve come off your motorbike. You were, you were, you hit, hit rock bottom, like you were in, like you said, in depression, drunk pulling, wheelies up the freeway, going 70 miles an hour. <laugh>. Yeah. You’ve come off, hit your head. You’ve had this ex this mind blowing experience, right? Then now you’re back in your body. You’re obviously in pain and you’re, and you’re laying on the bed in hospital. How, right. How were you proc, where was your mind at the time? How were you processing all of that?

Jeremiah (21:06):
It was a, it was such a weird place to be. You know, when you, when you deal with something that’s so supernatural, and then you come back into this experience, you know, you’re, for instance, this is something that people don’t think about. But when you are your pure essence, you’re in this freedom, this is why people say love. You’re in this freedom of expression throughout your energy. When you come back into your body, you’re dealing within a, a body, a physical form that is deteriorating, that, that takes more resistance for your energy to flow through it, which is why we feel tired and whatnot. So I’m sitting in the hospital thinking, I’m back in this body. I feel all of this pain. And where I was, I, I didn’t feel any pain. I didn’t feel anything but happiness and love and joy. I wanted to go back there, you know, and it really gave me an opportunity.

Jeremiah (21:52):
Being in the hospital was a very important part of this, because I had to sit still and I had to think about what had happened. And I had to process what had happened, where normally if I was okay and I had this experience, woke back up, no broken bones, no nothing, I would wake up and just continue on with my life. But I think being in the hospital was a part of the process where I had to call myself, call my mind in order to process everything that happened. And so I took this opportunity to kind of reevaluate my life and think about what, uh, becoming my purpose meant, you know? And so I had been on pain, prescription pain medication for my spinal injury in the military for about nine and a half, 10 years. And I realized that as soon as I got done with my, uh, healing of my ribs and my wrists, that I would quit taking my pain medication cold Turkey.

Jeremiah (22:38):
Um, I realized in that space of the hospital that I needed to start meditating because I felt like calming my mind allowed me the space and the quietness to kind of decipher what was told to me, you know? And so the hospital stay was really the most beautiful part of it, because that was actually the flipping point. The moment in the n d e was an observation, but without an action, with observation, you’ll never make for momentum. You can only observe it. So without the action, it’s like information and wisdom. Until you take that information and put it into play in your life and turn that into wisdom, right? And action. It will only be a wasted space in your mind. So I wanted to think about all this stuff and start to put these things in action. So meditation was another thing for me, which I could never meditate before because I had been in chronic pain for 10 years. I, I couldn’t sit still. I got adhd, I think, and I just couldn’t sit still and meditate. So I decided that if I was gonna completely change my life, because this experience was a whole new one that I needed to go all in, in, in how I experienced it and how I moved forward.

Guy (23:41):
Wow. So, <laugh>

Jeremiah (23:44):
<laugh>,

Guy (23:45):
Uh, sorry, I’m chuckling because, you know, we were speaking off air about our experiences that we’ve had personally, and, and how you, you, you just can’t quite go back. You know, you, you know, you’ve got to, there, there’s the, you you’re living with heart and soul, like it’s amplified and, and you just, and you just want to come from that place, even though the outside world wants to contain you so often. So what did you do? Did you, were you were, um, a crane operator? Was it your company? Were you working for someone else? Did you just go back to work and get in a crane after you recovered? Like, what

Jeremiah (24:20):
Happened? So, luckily I, being injured in the military, I get a, they retired me. They gave me a medical retirement. So I have a, um, income from the military for the rest of my life. Because of the injury. Correct. So, so I didn’t have to go back into reality and go back to work. Um, I actually decided to, to, you know, I had been working as a crane operator at the time, and I decided not to go back to work and just to live a simplistic life. You know, I’d always been searching for, you know, a way to make money and a way to build a bigger house and have a nicer car. And so I realized that, um, I could actually just live a very simple life. And the more that I quieted down my life, the more I would have time to kind of explore who I am mm-hmm. <affirmative>.

Jeremiah (25:02):
And to understand the nature of the reality of this experience. Like, because that’s not something I ever thought about. Like, why are we here? And that’s something that we kind of, we, we question ourselves like what is the reason for this? But we don’t really go into that. We go back into our lives, we’re like, well, I can’t answer that question right now, so I’m gonna go back to doing what I was doing. Well, I thought, you know what, why can’t I answer that question? Why can’t I think about what we’re actually doing here? You know, why can’t I look at my body and see how it functions? Why can’t I look at our experience before life and afterlife and see what the middle of this experience is doing? You know? So I, I couldn’t go back to that. I had to dedicate, uh, my entire life to understanding that.

Jeremiah (25:43):
And, and so I, I spent three and a half, four years, and I’m still doing it to this day of, I’m researching what we’re doing here. I look at science, I look at religion, I look at spiritual texts, and I try to bring them all together to see and understanding and a point of reasoning behind all of them. And I think they all really speak to the same thing. And they all speak to energy, and they all speak to love. And in that energy and love we find oneness. You know? And, um, that’s, that, that became my whole goal, to go explore where we are, what we are to become, and how we’re going to do that. You know? And I re

Guy (26:24):
Those three words that were spoken to you then, um, become, become the purpose.

Jeremiah (26:29):
Become the purpose,

Guy (26:29):
Yeah. Become the purpose. Do you think that was directly for you? Or do you think that was a message to, to get out there for

Jeremiah (26:39):
Everyone? I, I ultimately think it’s a message for everyone. I mean, if not becoming your purpose, if you’re not being the purpose of what you’re doing here, you’re ultimately wasting your time. If we’re living our lives for our physical bodies, then when our physical bodies die, the experience is over. And so, becoming the purpose for me and also feeling love, um, really kind of meshed together. So when I look at my experiences in life, I’m ultimately seeking love. I’m seeking love and acceptance from other people. I’m seeking love and acceptance for myself. And the problem that I had my whole life was, I didn’t feel enough love for myself. So I depended on outside sources to bring me love and to bring me acceptance and to validate who I was, you know? And I noticed that I curtailed my existence based upon people’s perception of who I was.

Jeremiah (27:33):
And so, when I was dealing in my depression, what I was dealing with was a reality of my past. And I was looking at it from a new perspective. Because every day, like including right now, we are on the cutting edge of our information, you are the smartest you have ever been in your life right now, just as I am right now as well. This is the smartest I’ve ever been. I’ve collected the most amount of information through my life. So I was looking at an old experience with a new set of eyes, basically. And so I would hold myself accountable for the decisions that I made back then. And I wanted to change that because I knew a better route. I knew a better way. And so I realized that I couldn’t change that. And my depression was wanting to change that. But I did realize that the experience in that moment gave me information that helped me live a better life in the long run.

Jeremiah (28:23):
So that one moment of neg negative experience that lasted for a short period of time gave me a lifetime of information to change my life. But not only that, it gave me information to share with people, because I have a mouth, because of eyes and ears, and I’m able to communicate with people. I can share this information now with people to help make their lives better. So if that one negative moment of my life that I perceived gave me a lifetime of information to make my life better, and also give to other people and create a butterfly effect through life, then that’s not bad. That’s not a negative experience. That’s actually a hard taught lesson. But that lesson is a benefit to my life and others around me. And same with my anxiety, with my anxiety was me trying to control, um, objects in the future or experiences in the future.

Jeremiah (29:09):
And I can’t do that. I can only look at myself and say, who you are right now is the best version of you in your entire existence. And you have an opportunity to live in this moment and to become all that you’re meant to become. And when you do that, you are living your purpose. You are living true to your heart and your soul. You know, one thing I learned from, um, um, through this research is that, you know, our heart really is the most powerful, uh, entity in our body. You know? And, and here’s a question I ask people, and I’m gonna ask you this too, guy, do you know we represent love with the heart, the physical organ of the heart. Why do we represent love with the physical organ of the heart? And this is an interesting thing to think about.

Guy (29:50):
Why do we represent love from the physical organ of the heart,

Jeremiah (29:56):
Right?

Guy (29:58):
Boy, I have no idea. I, the first thing they thought to me is that, uh, if, if talk, talking about the physical, the physical heart pumps, blood drown pumps life around

Jeremiah (30:07):
Pumps, through pumps

Guy (30:08):
Life, pumps life through you. So to me then it’s pumping love.

Jeremiah (30:11):
It’s pumping. Yeah. It’s pumping energy. And the energy in this experience is allowing us to experience this life. And our life is meant to be experienced in a positive fashion. You know? So when you think about love, you must think about energy. When you think about the feelings of love that we get from our relationships, or we get from nature for, for existence as, for example. So when I go out into nature and I feel the love of the universe or the trees, I feel that power and that energy in me. And you’ll find that a lot of people, when they go out into nature, they’re like, I feel alive. Well, what makes you feel alive? It’s, it’s the energy that it forms that it gives you, right? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And, and when you’re out in nature, you’re getting this pure essence of the energy. When you come back into existence in society and you’re around people, you’re getting a, an energy that’s been contorted and manipulated.

Jeremiah (31:05):
Our, our our perception of love has been manipulated based upon our experience with love, right? So we look at love as one thing, but in reality, it’s everything. So what I tell people is that we are love based upon the fact that we are not our bodies. We are the energy within the bodies that are controlling these bodies. Okay? We are that energy. And if energy is love, because love is the balance of existence, right? When we feel love, we feel a balance. Just like in nature with the trees and the flowers. They, they have life when they have balance. And just like in love, when we have balance, we feel love. So when you are living that love, you’re living a purpose beyond your physical body. And so a lot of people are living for their emotions. They’re living for their physical body. And emotions are simply an interpretation of a truth. But when you live from your heart, or you live from your love, you are living the very truth of your nature. You’re becoming the purpose of your life, right? But we have such an abstract view of what love is, that it becomes a, um, a, a, a transaction. It becomes, I’m going to love somebody, but I need then to love me back in, in this way. And it does become a conditional experience. And that’s not what love is. Love is a free flowing one way gift.

Guy (32:22):
So, so are you saying then, and uh, this is, this is how I look at it. You know, we always wait for the stars to align before we take the step to change. Sure. As opposed to taking the step and the change will come. Right? So from listening to you, it’s become love, be, be be the resonance, and then your purpose will flow from that. It will, but do the work. Like lean into the heart, lean into the, that aspect. Create s space in your life like you have. Right. You know, slow things down. And then the, the purpose will resonate out of that or your unique gift to the world, and you’ll then be able to follow upon it from that vantage point

Jeremiah (32:57):
Absolutely. As opposed

Guy (32:58):
To the all the conditions. Yeah,

Jeremiah (33:00):
That’s absolutely true.

Guy (33:01):
I I the question for you then, um, Jeremiah, is when did this happen, the n d e and how and how is your anxiety and depression since? And you also spoke about, um, um, pain medication as well that you’d been on for a long time, right? Like, I’m interested to know how that’s been managed, um, since the accident.

Jeremiah (33:21):
Yeah. So I don’t have depression anxiety anymore. Um, okay. I, I quit taking my pain medication completely cold Turkey after I, I healed up for my ribs breaking in and my ribs. Oh, wow.

Guy (33:33):
Okay.

Jeremiah (33:33):
So I, I didn’t find any sense for it. I had to find a new, uh, purpose for the, the pain that I was feeling. So if you think about working out or you think about running long distances, when I was in the military, I ran a lot, I did a lot of working out. I had to deal with physical pain mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But what I did in that moment was I had to control my pain. I had to control the purpose or the reasoning for having that pain. You know? So like a runner, when you run, you feel the po pain in your body. You want to stop, you wanna shut it down, but you’re like, no, this is going to make me healthy. This is going to win me a race. So you’re, you’re, you’re reevaluating and you’re putting value in, in a, in a new perspective of, of your experience.

Jeremiah (34:16):
So I had to do this with myself. And this is what I believe we can do with our depression anxiety as well, is realign the value of the experience. You know, change the perception of what you’re looking at. So if I look at my body as being, uh, degenerate be be being, um, in pain constantly, I’m gonna feel that pain. But if I look at myself as saying, I have a experience now where I’m still alive, when this pain is teaching me, the physicalities of my body is not me, cuz I’m still joyous and happy in my mind. Right? My body may be shutting down, but that’s not me, you know? So I have to revalue the pain. So, and this is this, this happened in 2018, so it’s been going on for about four years now.

Guy (34:56):
Oh, wow. Yeah. Four and a half

Jeremiah (34:57):
Years. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Wow. So it’s, uh, it’s definitely a new experience, you know,

Guy (35:03):
<laugh>. Yeah. No, it’s incredible mate. And what would you say then to, um, somebody listen to this right now that is suffering from depression or is going through a hard time or potentially their own lower point? Because you, you know, it, it would be easy to say, well, you’ve had a near-death experience and you got to have this or experiment. Of course you’re gonna change. You know, they, there could be that. Um, and I’ve had many people say, why do we even wait to have a near-death experience? Or why do we have to hit rock buckham bottom to adjust? But when we’re in the pain, you know, I’ve certainly suffered like a very low grade depression through my twenties. You know, I, I I really struggled to find my own identity and it was ripping me up inside, you know, so it’s, it’s easier said and done cuz when you’re in it, you, it’s like you really need somebody to come and give you a compass to guide you out of there. But so often it’s, it’s, it’s really hard to do

Jeremiah (35:59):
<laugh>. It is. It’s very, very hard to do. Very. Yeah. And, and this is something that starts with our habits, okay? So depression is a habitual, uh, format that we’ve created in our mind down our neuropath pathways. Okay? So we have this thing called neurogenesis and neuroplasticity. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Okay? So neurogenesis is our brain’s ability to create new neuro pathways, new thoughts. And neuroplasticity is the availability for us to change our patterns or change our thoughts. Okay? So what I would tell people is this, number one, you’ve got to start at loving yourself. And that starts with a habitual format in your life. When you look at your life from the past and you say, I’m not good enough. I messed up this and that. It’s not true. Okay? That reality only existed in that experience, that reality no longer exists in who you are when you’re listening to this story right now.

Jeremiah (36:53):
You are free of that, you’re gone, you’re not, you’re not living in that moment. So when you release yourself from the past experiences and you live within the current moment of your reality of your life, you could say to yourself that, now I have a better perspective. Now I can make a different choice. Now I can live a different way because I acknowledge that, you know, but we also have to go through these experiences in order to know what love truly is. And it’s full capacity. We have to experience a lack of love. It’s the duality of life, and it’s the nature of reality. Okay? We have to, we have to want in order to know what is and what we want and what we achieve for. Okay? And so when you are in this depression, or you’re dealing with, with situations that cause you heartache, you know, the one thing that I tell people also is that if you are feeling this deeply, you have a gift.

Jeremiah (37:43):
If you are not feeling anxiety or depression, you, you’re not as in tune to the reality and nature of life. The more that you feel, the more that you can understand where those feelings are coming from. You know? And it’s people that don’t have depression that I question like, who are you <laugh>? Because I, I believe everybody has depression. I just think we don’t talk about it, you know? But I think that having the gift of depression and having the gift of anxiety and having the gift of heartache really creates a synchronicity in your life that you have a deeper understanding of what your nature of truth is. You know? So take value in that. Take value in your understanding of feelings and the depth of feelings and emotions in your life. Because those emotions and our perception of those emotions are, are the stamp of reality in our life.

Jeremiah (38:31):
So we go through life, we take in information. This is one thing I tell people too, is think about what we’re doing here. So if you look at our lives before we were born, we were an energy bean. And then we get an energy bean gets born into a physical energy being, and then at the end we depart back into an energy bean. And this is simple stuff. This is, people would’ve died and come back to life, has said, this is what we as, uh, people in this physical life understand we are here. So what are we doing here? So we are, and this is a crazy thing, but when you think about it, we are designed to intake information and energy. Our senses, our eyes are taking in energy information, okay? Our ears are taking in sound information, energy information, our noses, same thing, our feeling of touch.

Jeremiah (39:15):
So what we’re doing is we’re taking in information and we’re transforming it, and we’re building it. So if we look at it from a perspective of an enjoyment or love, we are taking that energy and we are growing it, right? If we are looking at it from a negative perspective of, my life sucks, this experience sucks, we’re diminishing it, we’re we’re closing it, we’re creating a, an encapsulated energy, which creates a feeling of stress and ugh. Like I can’t get this energy out because we’re not loving the experience. The experience itself is meant to be viewed from a, a place of love. Cuz when you feel that love and when you understand love, you know, it’s freeing, you know, it opens you up further and we’re expressing the energy that we’re receiving in a greater way, right? And then when we’re giving that out, we have this thing where we emit light photons. This is scientifically proven fact. Mm-hmm. We take in energy and then we emit energy. And people call it our aura. People call it our, our vibe, whatever you wanna call it. But we’re emitting energy back into the universe based upon our experience. You know? So, go ahead.

Guy (40:16):
No, I was gonna say what then, what do you think ultimately our purpose is as a human being? Why do we come here for the experiences? Why do we come here for that pain? And why does that lead into emitting it back into the universe? Because there is a field that, a fabric that connects everything and

Jeremiah (40:31):
Everyone. And that, that’s a very good question, guy. So you had a recent guest on, which is one of my favorite people in all this world, Neil Walsh. Oh, and he, he spoke it so eloquently and he spoke the truth is the soul. This is the moment where we are evolving our soul. Okay? If our soul is our collection of experiences, right? It’s the acknowledgement of the collection of experiences with the imprint of the energy from that experience, okay? And that is ultimately releasing energy from our bodies in the form of light photons. This experience is meant to transform our soul. And this is something I think you’ll find across the board that people will, will say to you is that this experience is not so much a class, but it’s so much, it’s like a bootcamp of our soul. It’s here to train us. We’re in this place where we are, we have the ability to create these experience and live these experiences, but the more that we perceive them from a placement of love, the more that we feel alive and the more that we feel alive. When our physical body leaves us, we are still in this energy form and this, uh, intelligence of, of information.

Guy (41:37):
Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And what do you feel or think then ultimately the, the universe gets out of it. So like, if, if we’re an, a soul having these experiences, what do you think ultimately then that purposes for

Jeremiah (41:55):
Yeah.

Guy (41:55):
Expanding beyond that. I, I ponder these things all the time

Jeremiah (41:58):
As well. Yeah, I do too. I, I, here, here’s something to think about. So they’ve recently, um, came out with a theory or hypothesis that black matter, um, black, uh, dark matter in space mm-hmm. <affirmative> is just information. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So if you think about the, the universe, you think about information, you think about energy, okay? And somehow they’re connected, right? So if we’re emitting energy and we look at this universe as being energy, which it is, science is already proven this, okay? So just by that fact, we are now one, you are energy, I am energy. All of your listeners are energy. We’re not this physical body. We are energy within energy within energy. We’re, we’re on layers. Okay? So what it gets is, is if we’re transforming energy in this experience and we’re making it greater through the perception of love, we are expanding the universe.

Jeremiah (42:56):
Ultimately we are giving back to the universe an energy that it gave us in a small, minuscule, uh, seed. We are now, we’ve grown it into a tree and we’ve given it out. So we’re expanding the universe. I always wondered about this is the expansion of the universe based upon, um, intellect, is it based upon our perception of reality? Is our intake of information and energy getting thrown back into the universe, which actually creating the expansion of the universe. Because if everything started from a single point, it started from all of the information and to expand the energy and information, it would have to be, uh, manipulated or, or grown. You know? And I wonder if that’s what this is too. So, I mean, this is just a theory I have. This is not re I’m not saying this is truth, you know, but it’s just a, a very interesting thing to think about.

Guy (43:48):
Oh, look, totally, uh, constantly, constantly <laugh>, you know, because especially when we’re having a very, um, human experience and, and very physical and it can be very challenging, very tough. And you know, like, and you just want to, you just wanna bail. You just want out,

Jeremiah (44:03):
Leave me alone.

Guy (44:03):
Like this is, you know, and all these kind of metaphysical concepts and can feel so abstract and so disconnected. Like, it’s like, what, what, what the fuck we talking about in the first place kind thing, right? You know, because I, I need to deal with this now. And, and quite often, like I say, and I, and I mentioned it more on a podcast cuz you see people diving into this work, really chasing the mystical experience or chasing the, the manifestation of something and so forth. And which is great. Like, you know, I’ve certainly gone down those roads for, for an exploration, but not to run away from the shit that I, I need to deal with on a daily basis as well. Right? Right. And I think it is just, there’s this fine line, isn’t there, of really coming home, finding yourself leaning into that and living from that place, right? And evolving, but at the same time, looking at these huge concepts,

Jeremiah (44:56):
Right? Saying,

Guy (44:56):
Wow, yeah. The wonder of it all

Jeremiah (44:59):
<laugh>, it’s easy, it’s so easy to get lost in this. And this is something I’ve dealt with, um, since my experience, my NDE experience. It’s like, how deep do I go? Because if I go too deep, it makes this physical experience bullshit. It’s like why am I doing this? You know? And, and, but when I stay in this place and know that the experience of the universe is love, right? For me. And I have the opportunity by being here physically to express the universe’s truth in love, in energy, in giving good tidings to people and love and appreciation, acknowledgement to people, you know? So if we are all part of the energy, we are all the same. Okay? So when I give people love, when I give people acceptance, what I’m doing is I’m ultimately giving myself acceptance and love because I am part of that same energy.

Jeremiah (45:52):
You know, scientists have, have said that we are living within an energy field. Well, if we’re energy, we are part of that field. We look at ourselves as having eyes and a nose and a mouth. That’s not us. We’re behind that. We’re behind the eyes, we’re behind the the face. We’re behind the body. We are the energy within the universe. So if we’re giving energy to people that res, that take that energy and allows them to cultivate and generate a higher frequency of energy than we are doing for the universe, which is doing for us, we’re doing the same thing for us. We’re giving that to us basically. Which is why when we give love to people, we feel a great sense of pride and respect for ourselves. Mm. It’s why when you give love to others, it becomes the greatest superpower that you have.

Jeremiah (46:38):
Cuz you’re no longer just giving love to your physical body that’s going to die, trying to create wealth, trying to create, you know, uh, whatever. You’re giving that out to other people to help generate a better existence and which allows them to get out of the defensive mindset reality and go on the offensive because they feel they have empowered themselves through your words, through your expressions to them to become who they are. And now they can view the perspective of reality in a different regard. And that transforms the energy that they’re intaking into a greater power. And that ultimately goes back into the universe. You know? So we are literally all one. We come from one place, we come from one energy. We are the energy that we’re, you know, that we’re seeing in the universe, you know? But another problem that we have is that we are constantly looking for love and what love is see.

Jeremiah (47:29):
And the problem with that is that you’re looking for love. Not realizing that you are love, you are the physical manifestation of what love is. So you’re looking at love through blinders and you’re going out not realizing that you are love. So when you’re going to seek love, you’re going to try to find love. You are that love. All you have to do is become, just become, you don’t have to find love. You are the love, you know, and then you give that love out to people. And in doing so, you’re cultivating an experience of love for them as well. You know? So I, I think the biggest thing with, with people today is if they can realize that they are the love that they seek from others, they will live a better existence. They don’t need love from anybody. They just need to realize that they are the love and they have to embrace and empower themselves into becoming that in, in every regard and respect, in every action they’ve take in this reality.

Guy (48:22):
Totally. But, but so often we have to <laugh> we have to go through a great deal of pain or of course to, to, to get to that point, to just, and it, and it’s, it only takes a moment to make a decision to change. And then Sure. And then we are, you know, reinforce good practices, good habits, good practicing of gratitude, right? Really cultivating that within the body and then realizing every time you, you, you give something a little for somebody else, it fills you back up and then you resonate better. But, you know, that’s, I guess the, the, the wonders of life, isn’t it? Yeah.

Jeremiah (48:51):
You know, it starts, it starts with habits. And that’s the thing is reaffirming your habits. You know, it takes, you know, 30 to 60 days to establish a habit and to establish a neuro pathway in your mind. So living this and thinking about it and only doing it sporadically will never create the truth, but continually living that purpose and living in that moment every day for 30 to 60 days, you’ll start to realize that, okay, this is start to feel real, you know?

Guy (49:15):
Yeah. And that, that’s why I get very passionate about the retreats we run here in Australia. Cause we’d run three and five nights, right? And then what that does see is it really gets people out of their, their current environment, out of the people and everything, and who they’ve told themselves who they are, right? And they completely plucked down in a beautiful rainforest up here in Northern New South Wales. Wow. But then what happens is that you, you really get to dive in deep and you really start to create a new reference point by new neural networks, by having experiences that you go, ah,

Jeremiah (49:48):
Right.

Guy (49:49):
I I get it now. It’s not gonna say it’s gonna transform your life forever, all in one, but what it does, it gives you the tools, the, the reference point and the reinforcement to when you go back home, you’ve now got a new reference to navigate from to who you truly wanna become as you continue to cultivate the work.

Jeremiah (50:07):
Right.

Guy (50:07):
See, and yeah. And that’s what, how I changed, you know, from having, you know, different experiences by placing myself in. Cause I, I did a plant, uh, I did an Iowa Oscar journey back in 2013. Uh,

Jeremiah (50:18):
What’d you think about that?

Guy (50:20):
It changed my life in, you know, but I, because I was so terrified. I, I fully surrendered from it. But, but afterward it was like, okay, so I know that was a psychedelic that did that, but was that the psychedelic or was that, even though it felt so real at the time? So my, my journey with then was to go inward and, and see if I could rec cultivate that without the psychedelics, which I didn’t have actually more profound experiences f f far greater than that happened. But, you know, and that was just my journey, you know, and I haven’t felt the call to go back to it since. But I guess having, creating a new roadmap and as you work your way through it, you, you’re then able to cultivate that life and have the courage to lean into the heart and come from those places as you move forward in life. Right. It’s,

Jeremiah (51:05):
I, it’s,

Guy (51:06):
It’s, yeah, it’s huge. It’s

Jeremiah (51:08):
Huge. So we jer we’ll have, yeah, we’ll, we’ll have to have another discussion one of these days about the, the Haas journey. And so, because my D m t I went down a hallucinogenics, uh, journey as well after my, okay. My n d to try to explain my n d E to me cuz I’d never done hallucinogenics before. And so my D m T experience was the closest thing I’ve had to my N D E experience. And so it was a very powerful, powerful journey. So I, I I compliment.

Guy (51:34):
Yeah, we’ve got lots. We um, we’ve definitely got another podcast in Jeremy. Sure. That’s for sure. Mate, I got one last question before we wrap things up, mate. And, uh, that is with everything we’ve covered today, is there anything you’d like to leave the listeners to ponder or,

Jeremiah (51:48):
Yeah, I mean, I, I want people to understand that you are a beautiful expression of what love is to this universe. And in every day and every moment that you go through your life, you have the opportunity to express the love of the universe to another person. You know? And like Neil Walsh has become, become a reasoning for your soul to grow, you know, live for your soul because you are not your body. You are not the arm, you are not the hair, you are not anything on your body. You are the soul that is behind the expression of the body. You know? So live that purpose of love and live that purpose of the experience with others and give them an example of what love is, uh, love that you’re looking for in life.

Guy (52:30):
So, beautiful mate. Thank you. And Jeremy, I just gotta say, I’m so, so grateful I stumbled across you, you too, somewhere too at some time. But we’ve been trying to hook this, um, podcast up for a while. I’m so glad. But, um, what if, can people, are you, have you got a platform or do, does anyone people can reach out at all or Facebook or anything or, so,

Jeremiah (52:50):
I mean, I, I encourage people to reach out to me on Facebook, um, or on Instagram popsicles 76 I think it is. Okay. Um, maybe you can, you can put in the link to, in your, in the video, but, um, I’m working on getting a book together. I’m working on getting a website together right now because I, I really believe that this information will help people. So I don’t have anything yet. This is all just start a of my journey. So, you know, I’m just,

Guy (53:10):
Well hopefully this will prompt you into action a bit more for that stuff, mate. It’s, yes, it’s definitely needed. And, uh, I have no doubt more and more people will wanna connect with you and, and I’m sure. Wow. Yeah. Amazing.

Jeremiah (53:21):
Thank you. Thank you so much.

Guy (53:23):
You’re welcome. Thanks for coming on today. That was, that was epic Jeremiah. I appreciate it.

Jeremiah (53:27):
You’re very welcome. Thank you.