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Guy (00:11):
Okay. We are recording live. We are in, uh, Yamba and I’m with the beautiful Petra Brzovic<laugh> oh,

Petra (00:17):
Good job.

Guy (00:18):
So it’s interesting that, um, we, I, I, I record a podcast with Matt every month pretty much. And because of the, the time zones and differences, it’s always hard for the three of us to sync up, uh, times to record. Cuz we obviously having business meetings, retreat meetings and all sorts of meetings and then to throw a podcast in on top of that is always like, ah, so,

Petra (00:39):
But now I definitely crashed into your house and this is the right time

Guy (00:44):
It is. I know. It’s like, oh my God, you’re flying out in two days. We’ve gotta sort it out. So you’ve been on holiday in Yamba since the retreat mm-hmm <affirmative> after the last week, how was the Yamba retreat new

Petra (00:54):
By the way? Amazing. I could definitely live here. It’s

Guy (00:57):
A beautiful place. Isn’t it? It’s beautiful place. It’s amazing. And uh, the other thing I was looking, she actually said off air look like a unicorn. You could see you look very glamorous and beautiful. I forgot to do my makeup and uh,

Petra (01:08):
Look at us from waist down. I’m in my PJ’s.

Guy (01:12):
Yeah, let’s just keep it waist up. Anyway. Um, one thing question I wanted to ask you, cuz we’re gonna touch on a few things today. Um, is how did it feel being back at the retreat? Because it’s been two and a half years, we had run five retreats and then COVID happened. Mm-hmm <affirmative> and then we couldn’t get you out here in person for two and a half years. And then you were at, you were there.

Petra (01:41):
I’m not even sure there are any words that I could use to describe how did I feel coming back the same place and then knowing that I’ll see you in the morning and then getting the up, like it was still dark because we got up at five o’clock and then walking up to the octagon and knowing that I’ll finally hug Matt and you. And then that moment when I could physically feel you and hug you. I mean, can you describe that moment?

Guy (02:05):
No, it was, it was amazing. It was, it was, it was surreal cuz I remember thinking gonna bed, like it was we’d done the first night cuz you arrived that late after the first session. I remember thinking I’m I’m knack it. I, I I’m I’m sure Petra was gonna rock up at like 10 in the morning after being jet lagged. And then you, you just walked in like fresh as a Daisy at, you know, 5:30 AM or what it was the next morning. And it was, it was surreal because it felt like you’d never been away. Yeah. At the same time. And it just, everything just slotted in instantly and yeah, it was, it was a very special moment and a very special retreat the, the five months definitely that, that we’ve witnessed. And um, and it’s interesting cuz I always record a ma uh, podcast with Matt, um, just before a retreat or in the morning before we start mm-hmm <affirmative> so it’s kind of been a tradition of us because we obviously wanted to do it with you, but you hadn’t arrived yet. And uh, so it’s nice to do this one post retreat and we want to lean into a conversation today because what, what spark, uh, sparked some ideas as well is what you’ve been writing about as well at the moment. And I think cuz of what we witness at the retreat, we can tie that in and some of the incredible, um, things that we did witness, especially on the five nights we definitely, yeah. So maybe let’s touch on that. What were you writing about today and where was that inspiration coming from?

Petra (03:25):
So what’s coming up for me for the last few days is I’m observing, um, patterns and situations. And in that way I know where to focus my attention and what actually universe is trying to tell me. And first of all, we witnessed those beautiful healings at our retreat, which we didn’t even expect in that way. Right. And we didn’t know until the last day that people were actually healing on a physical level as well until they told us. So there was like a huge bonus confirmation I would say of our work or just a gift to us as well because we do what we do with our whole hearts and we do it without expectations. We just want to provide the support and safe place for people to heal in any way that it’s needed. But I’m physically being able to see those changes. It was

Guy (04:16):
It’s special having something tangible, isn’t it? Yeah, because we don’t, we’re always talking about we’re addressing not only the physical, but the emotional, the mental and the spiritual aspect of, of a human being. And quite often we can have these huge shifts, but beyond the conscious mind and we’re not even aware of it and it doesn’t show up in our lives till 3, 6, 9 months later as if it’s, you know, the ripple effects actually come up and show, you know, but then to witness something physical.

Petra (04:44):
Yeah. Because like time, time shrinked or, or shrink. Right. Mm-hmm <affirmative> it just, it happened before our eyes. Yes. And that was, um, such a special thing for me to, to witness. Yeah. Um, and then at the same time I was having some people from outer world texting me and asking me for help and for advice because they were diagnosed, uh, diagnosed, uh, with cancer or art human disease, which were the cases we were working with. Yes. Uh, at a retreat as well. And um, I helped them as much as they could just giving them advice, you know, how to start their healing journey. Mm-hmm <affirmative> and um, not interfering at all with anything what doctors have said. Of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or, you know what markers have said just to give them support how they can start healing in a holistic way. And after the retreat that I’ve noticed that none of them did what I suggested. Um, and it made me feel very, sorry, not only that, um, I’m, I’m not judging at all. Yeah. You know, I totally respect their journey. I’m just sorry that they’re still in pain and that maybe they, some of them chose, um, conventional, uh, way of healing, which is also okay. I’m not saying that it’s something wrong with there with that, but I know that simply taking medicine or, or pills, or simply going outta the surgery will not solve the root cause. And the illness will, you know, come up even

Guy (06:14):
Massively. I was only, I was only listening to Dr. GABA, cuz I’m going through one of his, uh, courses at the moment. And uh, there was a gentleman he referred to, I can’t remember his name. I, I should be better with my note taking, but anyway, but there’s things and there’s some in very specialist he, he talked about and how science is proving that you can’t separate the physicality from the other aspects of the body, the emotional it’s all it’s impossible. But we still just go and treat the physical aspect only. And he was saying, well, you, you can’t separate the biology from the psychology, right? So your psychology of how you think, how you talk to yourself, all your emotions is affecting the biology, the physicality of it. But then he is taking a step further. If you can’t separate from the biology, from the psychology, then you can’t separate the psychology from your environment.

Petra (07:06):
True.

Guy (07:06):
Which is massive as well. And then he is taking it one step further. Then you can’t separate your environment from spirituality. Right.

Petra (07:15):
Which we know.

Guy (07:16):
Yeah. Which we know because everything is all encompassed by something far greater that that binds the universe together. But yet we come all the way back down and we, we ignore all the other things. When you think about the retreat and why people are having experiences, like we’re setting up a space to provide their body, to allow them to do the work themselves. We’re not just say, oh, here’s a pill. Take this or fix this or remove this. You know, you, you reteaching the body how to nurture itself back into a correct alignment of homeostasis.

Petra (07:48):
Yeah. That’s such a gift when you come to retreat, one big thing and that is environment is put on the side on the poses. Right. And then we come and provide all the tools and, and techniques. And we guide them to the journey, um, of healing, which happens for every individual individual. Like it’s just an individual journey. So, um, it’s not just that, you know, you guy you met or, or me are saying, because we witnessed that in our work, but there are so many scientifical scientific papers that prove, I mean, since Burr started proving that the disease first starts on a subtle levels. I don’t know if you know about his research birth it’s B U R R

Guy (08:31):
No, no, no.

Petra (08:32):
So he, he was doing, uh, research, um, and he found that the, he was examining or researching women, uh, in their E field arch magnetic field. And he, uh, found a pattern of cancer in their field before it was shown on a physical level without telling anything to them. And then after several months, um, those women that showed patterns in their electromagnetic electromagnetic field showed on a physical level cancer.

Guy (09:03):
Wow.

Petra (09:04):
So that was, I don’t know, many years ago. Yeah. So he was one of the pioneers of, uh, the work that we do. And then of course we have so many modern, uh, researchers and then Bruce Lipton with, um, um, genes and environment and everything. I mean, so many things are coming together and now we witness all that and it’s just beautiful. Yeah. And it’s not easy. I’m not saying it’s easy.

Guy (09:25):
Oh God, no, no. It’s not like you up the retreat,

Petra (09:28):
You the

Guy (09:28):
Retreat and you, or anything I’m done. I’m gonna go home now and go back to my old ways. Like then

Petra (09:33):
Another shit he’s when you get back home and when your environment is there. Yeah. And there’s a big possibility that it starts triggering you again. And then it’s another level of work. Right.

Guy (09:43):
Totally. You know? Uh, cause I, I moved and I got a question to tie back into your writing and to the, the people that mm-hmm, <affirmative> ask for your help because I, I moved into this line of work on from my own personal, uh, reasons and journey. And, and as I discovered more and learned more, I truly felt my whole heart. This is the way because we are, we are really treating symptoms, not causes, right? Uh, not the, the root causes that I should say. So looking back when I worked at the university, I couldn’t walk to the bubbler from the office or to the toilet or in the gymnasium without somebody stopping me and asking me a question mm-hmm <affirmative> like, because everyone is in there for whatever health choice or reason they would going. And when I first I would give my energy and time all the time I would give, I’d, give I’d give, and they’d be asking me questions, nutrition, be asking me questions on weight loss.

Guy (10:34):
They’d be asking person fitness. I’d be asking person fitness. You ask questions in cardio, like all these things. How do I do it as if there’s like this magic special formula? And then I would give my time from, and, but what I was realizing, cause I’d see ’em outside. I’d actually see without trying to judge, but I’d see what they’d be. You know what they’d do. And they habits, you know, it’s, it’s just as an observer. And I quickly realized that, um, they weren’t doing the work or they, they, they weren’t prepared to there, there was something in the way of that below the conscious mind that prevented that from happening. So I could, you know, they’d come in, they’d come out. They’d go. They’d, they’d train hard. They’d disappear. It wasn’t like they could just chip away and be consistent slowly over time. Like maybe 1%.

Guy (11:19):
Mm mm it’s so minimal. So it made me when you were sharing me with that at a different level, cuz I wasn’t at that point facing people with chronic disease, even though that did come later with cancer, um, from your experience, uh, what do you think that that point is that tipping point to, to drive someone, to actually finally take action, to drive someone, to actually go, I mean think, okay, I’m still talking for Sarah, so I apologize, but how many people have you here say, I wish I’d started this sooner. I can’t believe what this work has done to me. Like or to come to the retreat or something that got, oh my God every month,

Petra (11:59):
Right? Basically. Yeah. Like what the

Guy (12:01):
Fuck was I thinking for the last

Petra (12:02):
40 years? Unfortunately we all wait until it’s too late. And only when we, when it becomes our way of living like for us, then it’s just our way of living. And of course there’s always something new to work on. There’s always something new to heal, but somehow you have this new awareness of everything that’s happening inside you and around you. Um, but until we reach that level, usually what we need is something horrible happening to us, whether it’s an illness or, um, I don’t know, loss of a job or a financial breakdown or whatever. And then we are just faced with, you know, I have to do something and that’s a gift. Yeah. And the sooner we started looking at an illness or, or financial breakdown or divorce, whatever it is as a gift, the sooner we start creating a new life and unfortunately many people stay there stuck whether in, um, fear or feeling not good enough feeling it’s too late, I cannot do this. Um, ashamed, guilty, whatever. And they just keep on looping and looping and looping in that thing or that situation where they’re in. Um, so when,

Guy (13:13):
When in your life did you, do you fully accept that and go, right. I I’m, I’m I’m going this way. Okay. I, I get this now. Do you know what I mean? Because I, I think I’ve had to have,

Petra (13:30):
I’ve had more moments like that. I I’m sure. I would say, you

Guy (13:34):
Know what I mean? Mm-hmm <affirmative> but I found for myself, there was a tipping point where I actually would accept more of the challenges that things are coming on from a different lens and lean into this, the processes that we do on a, on a self basis to go, oh shit, this is, this is happening to me right now. Um, I, I need to, uh, what’s the word I’m looking for, but to, but to truly accept the, the circumstance and lean into that fear, that, that response cuz the, the, the one thing we wanna tend to do is just run away from it. Mm-hmm <affirmative> we wanna run away from the conversation, that challenge, we run, run away from the, the difficulties that are coming up. We, we continue to bury these things, but, you know, I’m, I’m a very different person to who I was even. Oh, definitely. You know what I mean, 10 years ago, was it a moment in your life where you start to think, wow, this is really changing the direction of my life?

Petra (14:27):
Well, one of the first moments that I recall is, um, when I gave birth to my first son mm-hmm <affirmative> and, um, I had a very traumatic birth and I literally died, uh, during that birth and came back and then I just couldn’t connect with either myself or life or him and I was diagnosed with, uh, post-natal depression. Um, so there’s the first time that something has woken up in me, uh, because they wanted to put me on pills on drugs and then something woke up and I said, no, I, I, there, there must be another way, um, to heal. And I found a beautiful therapist with whom I started working and, and, you know, just feeling layer of the layer and working on, on everything I had to heal. And that was such a beautiful gift because it really started bringing me on, on this journey.

Petra (15:22):
Um, but then again, I had some more tipping points, uh, in my life, um, when I got divorced and when I was broke. Uh, and when I was diagnosed with, uh, out women disease, so everything happening at the same time, of course, because cuz I was living under so much stress for too long, then I, I broke down again and there was a monument monumental moment of my life when I finally started following my heart and my intuition and living the life that I actually wanted to live. And I decided to let go as you know of my, uh, old, uh, job and I yeah. Started to completely new career and started studying again. And,

Guy (16:05):
And this field, did you always feel like that intuition was there and that yes. Heart was there or was it buried?

Petra (16:13):
I, I was always feeling it, but I was allowing environment to prove me wrong. Okay. I would say my family, uh, my ex-husband mm-hmm <affirmative> um, the way I was raised, there was just no, no space for intuition, for heart, for softness, you know, and I learned how to live with that hidden deep inside. Yeah. And basically life was giving me all these horrible situations and illnesses and everything just to help me break through. Otherwise I would stay stuck in, in yeah. Something that was more convenient. Of

Guy (16:53):
Course. Yeah. I really come to believe like, I, I like, I truly believe this now that without these challenges, we just wouldn’t reach to certain depths of resources or, or of, or growth of what we are actually capable of doing. And, and then, and I know some of the, the hard, cause I think, you know, my feelings, we all experience hardship. I mean, fear is fear. It is just, the context becomes different around isn’t it? Yeah. Like the, the, we all feel it, even though we, we tend to grade it, oh, that was much worse. They had that much harder than me, you know? And it’s, well, I dunno, we all feel it, you know, at some level. So, um, I’m just trying to think where I was going with this on, on that space. God, my God, this jumping all over the place, but I, I that’s right for the growth.

Guy (17:46):
Like if we truly are connected and part of something that’s much more greater than us, you know, the universe source, whatever you want to call it. And, and we’re, we’re, we’re part of that experience in itself and, and experiencing that expansion and growth, then, you know, we, when we go through these depths of emotions, we really understand what it feels like to be joyful or really grateful. And we don’t go, uh, chasing them to avoid something. But when we, when we have those moments, we can sit in the richness of them and really feel them in that moment. You know what I mean? Yeah. And, and for me that, that’s what gives that’s what fills my heart when I reflect upon difficulties or challenges that start to come through from that, you know, which is important. I think of, um, um, uh, I’m sure she won’t mind me talking about this, but Giselle is an amazing example of some of the, um, the challenges that she had in life. I think, I mean, I don’t know her full story, but I think not

Petra (18:51):
The last part is enough, even

Guy (18:53):
That, you know, she lost her house in the Bush fire. Um, and then she, she she’d booked to come to the retreat. I think something, I think she had lost a partner.

Petra (19:02):
Her partner died. She had a,

Guy (19:04):
I can’t remember, she came off a force and broke so many bones in her body and was hospitalized. And

Petra (19:09):
Yeah, she said that her whole face had to be reconstructed. Was

Guy (19:12):
That right? She’s told my goodness, me and I spoke to her on the phone where she could just about talk, saying she couldn’t make it to whatever retreat. And when she came in January, um, you know, her MI, like she was, she wasn’t centered, she was scattered. Uh, she, uh, she couldn’t stop talking because there was this, this frantic energy around her and, and her, you know, her life had been so challenging, but through, I’ll never forget the last process on the last day in January where it really landed for her. And she landed in her heart and it just burst open. And she’s like, oh my God, I’m home. Like she really felt, and then she just came back to this one and she was a different woman and she had adversity since, but the way she navigated it with grace and handled, it was just night and day.

Petra (20:00):
I mean, life will always bring some adversity because that’s life, you know, and expecting that life will always be just, how do we say that in English, uh, butterflies and something,

Guy (20:13):
Uh, unicorns rainbows or something

Petra (20:15):
<laugh> speaking of your haircut. <laugh> uh, yeah. I mean, that would, wouldn’t be fair needed to us or, or to the people around us because that’s just not okay. And which makes me think again about, um, some people that reached out to me for help mm-hmm <affirmative> and then, um, posting on social media, uh, photos of them

Guy (20:40):
Having a good time mm-hmm <affirmative> yeah.

Petra (20:43):
And advising other people how they should have a good time. I was like, I won’t swear now, but like what’s going on. Not only that you’re lying to other people, you are lying to yourself. Of course. Why? Yeah. This is just going to be so much harder a month, two or five from now.

Guy (21:01):
Of course, of course.

Petra (21:02):
Stop and dive in, you know, I

Guy (21:04):
Know, but we, we, we really great at, at avoiding, avoiding and disguising and telling ourselves things and, and not really going there.

Petra (21:15):
Yeah. So the, so, you know, the one message I would like us to deliver today is it’s okay to be afraid.

Guy (21:22):
Yes.

Petra (21:23):
And dive into ourself, despite the fear, because life will hold you, universe will hold you people that can support you will come your way. You know, there there’ll be so many amazing opportunities for you to be held and healed, but we need to make that first step. And I also finished that pose that I was writing today. Oh, yes. Something that you, um, said to me, I don’t know if that even, um, I hear in your mind, but, uh, when we were talking about surfing and when I told you I’m really struggling to jump on with my feet on the board and I keep on ending on my knees and what am I doing wrong? And then you tell, told me, well, you know, sometimes you just have to say, fuck it, and jump on the board. <laugh> and that’s it. And I was doing that. I was falling and getting up and sometimes I, I was able to do it and have fun for whatever period of time. Yeah. Sometimes I would just fall and I didn’t know where my legs or my arms are, but that’s life. Yeah. We need to jump on the board so that we could surf through life. Totally,

Guy (22:24):
Totally.

Petra (22:24):
You, we expect life as a wave to take us somewhere, right? Yeah. So it’s not about not being afraid. I mean, it’s scary to jump on the board when you feel that rush of water underneath you, it’s scary to jump inside you when you know, there’s so much things you need to dive in. Um, that’s hiding there, but UN until we die, we cannot heal. Yeah,

Guy (22:47):
Totally. There’s, there’s nothing more rewarding than overcoming an aspect of yourself. Yeah. Hands down. I, I, and when it comes to fear, I, I was only listening to this the other day again, but Bruce Lipton talks about the biological imperative, which means that from the smallest bit of bacteria that’s within the body or, or microbe all the way to humans, to nature everything, everything is hardwired with survival mode in it basically mm-hmm, <affirmative>, it’s just innate in us. So, but nobody is really, we never get shown how to work with that and navigate that, you know, it’s, it’s like, um, one of the podcasts I heard, um, Jeffrey Thompson speaks about, it’s not our ability to handle, uh, it’s not, our stress is not the problem. It’s our ability to handle stress in the modern era is the problem now. And that’s triggering all sorts of responses and war up perception.

Guy (23:43):
And we’re always in this fear defense mode, and we are denying ourselves of so much more. I mean, if you, if you, my belief is, if you are living in Western society, there’s gonna be an element of stress that we never used to have, for sure. Like, but people walk around thinking there, are you stressed? No, no, no, but they’re just witnessing the amount of distractions in their life that are happening, that they’re even so unaware of in the first place, which is fine. And sometimes you ever wish, right. That you fucking, never discovered anything, you know?

Petra (24:19):
Yeah. You know, at the same time, I, I know looking from, you know, from the soul level and from like higher state of consciousness it’s okay. Of

Guy (24:26):
Course, if

Petra (24:27):
It’s okay to die today or tomorrow in five days, or if they choose to die like now, or it’s okay. But still as a human, you know,

Guy (24:38):
It’s a human condition. Yeah.

Petra (24:39):
It’s hard.

Guy (24:40):
So, alright, just to kind of tie a bow back in this question and, and give some of them for listeners that I’ll just be aware of the time we’re doing good. Um, we’ve got so many things going on outside of this podcast. It’s not funny. I got a quiet aver at the moment. It’s great. Yeah.

Petra (24:56):
Um, and quiet guys somewhere as well,

Guy (24:58):
Because the other thing is as well, what I’ve noticed is, um, when at the workshops or at the retreats, it’s, it’s very natural, common to, um, kinda separate yourself from the speaker to like presenter to participant. Right. And, and quite often, um, we, we get, we get elevated on a pedestal. Right. And through that, that elevation, then that means, oh, but they know this work. They they’ve, they’ve done it all. It’s, it’s easy for them. It’s easy. I can, it’s like, no fucking hang on. We’re all human beings. We’re all, we’re all here equal here. But it just happens to be I’m at the front talking to you a lot. I’ve sat many a time and the other way going the other way, looking at it, like there’s no, there’s no difference. Right. But it’s, it’s almost like in our culture, we tend to do that.

Petra (25:46):
Yeah. We always think it’s easier for somebody else.

Guy (25:49):
That’s right. You know? And so then that, that think in mind comes in. So my, my, so the point I’m trying to raise is like, um, people just assume pet, you know, you, you here, you, you do, you’re doing incredible work. You hold incredible space. You work with people. And then when your challenges come along, they just skips right off you and just carry on. <laugh> for sure. They just carrying the car and turn the radio on it’s another day, like normal. Huh. You know, and we get affected too, obviously. Right. So what would you leave with people? How do you tend to, what thinking process? How do you look at things? If a challenge arises, where, where do you tend to go with yourself? You know, if you could summarize that, just to support.

Petra (26:32):
I always try to stay in the role of objective observer. Okay. I always try to, what does that, that means that, um, I’m observing myself, my thoughts and my feelings and the situation and trying to understand the reasons why this is happening. What’s the lesson. Okay.

Guy (26:50):
For me. So for instance, if you get anxious, all of a sudden, instead of just being, oh, fuck me, I’m anxious and responding from that. You’re able to go, oh, uh, let me look at this. I’m feeling anxious right now. Why

Petra (27:01):
Is that? So why is that? And how does that actually make me feel, what am I afraid of? And um, okay. What am I learning from this situation? Am I learning to speak up for myself? Am I learning to set boundaries? Am I learning to say, fuck it and jump on the word? What is it? So there’s always a new opportunity to learn and grow in every situation in life. So just like Matt noticed the other day that I’m really self aware. I’m really aware of, you know, all connections. Mm-hmm <affirmative> um, and I’m doing my best to, to stay in that way. Not that that I want to be self critical or too mental. It’s just that I’m open to understand life in a new way. That was hidden before. Um, then

Guy (27:44):
So objective observer.

Petra (27:45):
Yeah. Objective observer, stay loving. Huh? Stay loving towards self and towards others.

Guy (27:54):
That’s really challenging for many people.

Petra (27:56):
I know, you know, I know, but unless we are loving, we cannot move forward. Mm-hmm <affirmative> so if we stay, if we need to stay and practice love for month, year or 10 years, that’s the lesson we are learning now. It’s okay. Yeah.

Petra (28:13):
It’s huge. Yeah. Unless we love ourselves. I mean, unless we find this, that self-compassion and, and ability to be there for ourselves, we cannot expect life to be there for us or other people. Our partner, our friends, our business partners, no way. So we are the ones that need to be self-loving and self nurturing and self caring. Um, and then with that energy, we go into the world and the same time, do our best, not to judge other people and to love them and know that those people that are pushing our battles the most are the people that are here to help us heal. They’re showing us what we need to heal.

Guy (28:51):
Yes. Yes. Triggers good ones. Aren’t they?

Petra (28:55):
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Guy (28:57):
Anything else?

Petra (28:58):
Patience.

Guy (28:59):
Yeah.

Petra (29:01):
Patience. And, uh, just trusting that whatever is happening is happening for a reason. Mm.

Guy (29:07):
Yeah.

Petra (29:08):
You know, even, even in those moments when it’s so hard, when you’re literally curled on the floor and, and, and crying and, and feeling that like you’re dying to just leave that little part of you aware that it’s gonna be okay, and that this is happening for some greater reason, and it’s going to be shown to me very soon and I just need to stay trusting.

Guy (29:31):
Yeah. Love it. Mine’s just drink a case again, this and I’m done. Of course. I <laugh> wish welshing

Petra (29:38):
You.

Guy (29:39):
Yeah, no, it’s definitely, definitely not a Cru alcohol. I don’t even drink all my, my well friends could see me now. Eh, <laugh> I’m sure

Petra (29:46):
<laugh> they would take your, uh, citizenship. Yeah.

Guy (29:49):
They take my pulse mate. They’d like, what’s wrong, your son, you know, but yeah, no, they amazing, really important things. I find myself as well. One thing I’ve noticed really took me a lot. I dunno whether it’s cause I’m a, a bloke, but, um, was to really, um, feel what’s feeling in my body to really try and go, oh, is that my solar plexus right now? Is that in my gut? Is it in my hip? Like cuz you, one thing I’ve especially working with you guys as well is, is always go back to the body and, and, and have a self inquiry around that, which I do. And I never tend to open, I do my best, not to, especially when I’m feeling the pressure, I just open my mouth. I actually tend to sit with everything and let it digest process and let the, the, the insight come, come as opposed to try and think my way through something mm-hmm <affirmative>, which has been huge. But you know, having the gift of, of age, because as you get older, you have more experiences and you have more tools and resources to draw upon, to look back upon, you know, where sometimes, you know, in our twenties, but Hey, the generation coming through now, man, I’m sure I just listen is a walk in the park and natural to them. Maybe who knows? Um, just to wrap it up, is there anything, um, we should leave our listeners from them to ponder on.

Petra (31:13):
I think we covered a lot. We did a lot to grow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just see how you can stay loving to yourselves, how you can find love and understanding for anybody that is pushing your buttons. Um, practice, trusting life. I mean, yeah. Even one thing that we, out of all this that we were talking, if we would practice consciously, it would bring an enormous change in our lives, you know? Yeah. Self love, patience, respecting our triggers and being grateful for them. Um, yeah. Going out of the comfort zone, jumping on that board.

Guy (31:54):
Exactly. Get out of the head. That’s what I wanna say to finish this, like, like we, over, like you could be a serial podcast, which is amazing. I love it. You listening to my podcast, but unless this is actioned and we actually dive into the minutiae of it and start pulling it apart. Yeah. And get into it and just remember biology, psychology, environment, spirituality, those are inseparable. What is your environment? Like, are you actually putting yourself around the right people? I like, you know, what is your connection to source? Like, is there, does it feel like this just completely cut off? You know, what is your,

Petra (32:34):
I mean, we could talk so much about each one of those.

Guy (32:36):
I know. I know. Right. I know. But, uh, yeah, I’ve lost a ponder on, um, and, but dive in and hopefully at

Petra (32:44):
Some couple will see you at one of our retreats.

Guy (32:46):
Yeah. I, you, in person. Absolutely. It’s special. Yeah.

Petra (32:51):
Yeah. We would love to.

Guy (32:53):
All right. Petra high five.

Petra (32:56):
We managed to do it before I

Guy (32:59):
Leave. Thank you all much. Loved, amazing.