#94 My awesome guest this week is Luke Shipley. At 31 years old he finally realised his dream by signing the deal to his dream home and acreage. What hit him in that moment was an overwhelming feeling of emptiness. The goal he dreamt of his whole life was achieved and he felt more depressed than ever.
With a family to look after, he said enough was enough and slowly began to look into the world of meditation. At the beginning of 2019, he joined Let It In and in August 2019 he attended our 3-day retreat.
Here we discuss his journey, his transformations, his difficulties and how meditation and the work have given him a deeper sense of purpose, fulfillment and happiness. Enjoy!
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About Luke: Married. Lives Melbourne bush property. Father to 2 beautiful kids Archie 11 Sunday 9 and 1 more on the way. Crane operator. Construction worker 22 years. Former carpenter and furniture maker. Surfer, meditator, contemplator.
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Guy: Hi, I’m Guy Lawrence and you are listening to the Guy Lawrence podcast. If you’re enjoying this content and you want to find out more and join me and come further down the rabbit hole, make sure you head back to the guylawrence.com.au. Awesome guys. Enjoy the show.
Guy: Luke, welcome to member spotlight and what eventually will be a podcast as well. Thanks for coming on buddy.
Luke: Well thank you Guy. I really appreciate, um, giving me the time and yey. Despite to sort of chat a it the things alI been doing and thee time and I guess in the group as well.
Guy: Yeah, look it’s one thing I’ve realized, um, with this work and you know, for people listening is that the power of, of seeing people like ourselves embracing this work and actually utilizing and creating, you know, change in our lives. I think there’s, there’s definitely been an element of, um, you know, there’s a lot of, there’s a lot of researchers or scientists, there’s a lot of doctors is, there’s a lot of things out there, but quite often that can feel out of reach for us. Uh, that’s where I found from my experience and I think the greatest power is by giving people the microphone, by bringing people you know, like ourselves to, to have conversations and share how this stuff can impact our lives. So, um, so brace yourself, man. I’ll hit you with loads of questions and see where we go. So, well, let’s, let’s start with what, what attracted you to this work in the first place?
Luke: Into the group or the actual, like in just the work overall?
Guy: The work overall.
Luke: Um, what, Oh, really, it attracted me to meditation or what got me into meditation to start with was I’m coming out of a period of depression, um, and sort of really just existing for a period of time for a few years. Um, and then wanting to just find myself again and be myself again. Um, and also having a need there to. To do something for myself and also from a family. So the situation we were in at that time and that’s where I, that’s when I started meditating. And from there, you know, the changes all felt just in a daily meditation practice. I’d been with phenomenal to start with. And then the changes I felt from that and my family felt from that on the course of a couple of years, it just led me to go deeper and research more about this sort of work.
Luke: And each time I sort of had a bit of a block or a stumbling block with my meditation where I think to myself, Oh, I’m not really seeing the changes that are used to say. Um, and there’s times they were, I Oh, it might be as worth it. But then instead of sort of backing off from it all guy, no dig a bit deeper and that, that draws me into another, like another, another book or another podcast. And then it just rolls on from there. And each time I do that, I’ll say the results and I’ll feel the results.
Guy: What, um, I gotta to ask you, mate, when you mentioned depression. Um, there’s certainly an area of people out there that are struggling and are attracted to this work. You know, I, one of the things I want to stress as well, um, for anyone listening is that I think this, this, I look this work as life enhancement. So even if you’re in a good place is it’s a great place to start from when you think, you know, cause this is an element thing, you know, I don’t need, I don’t need work or whatever, you know, I just want to stress that cause that’s coming in for you. Why were you depressed? Like what, what was the catalyst for you? Do you mind me asking?
Luke: Nah, not at all. Um, the depressant I suppose essentially when I reflect on it is just a mindset that I had from, I guess from childhood growing up, grew up in a household where it was, apparent with a chronic illness. So it was always a stressful environment today. Um, and then I sort of carried that mindset and the programming. I guess for my life, um, and up until a point where I’d always worked really hard and push myself really hard for the things I wanted to get. Um, it culminated and appeared the time when I basically achieved the goal I’d been working towards since I was 16, when I was 31. And it was almost to the second I saw on the paper work on, on what we bought that it just fucked a light bulb, sort of someone flipped the switch off. So what I’ll put it down to was that I had the ambition to achieve these things, but I didn’t have the mindset and the, the programming to go along with it, if you know what I mean.
Guy: Well, what was the goal that you wanted to do achieve?
Luke: Well, the goal was to, um, well we purchased the property it um, just on the outskirts of Melbourne. We purchased property. We always wanted to live on acreage and um, we achieved that goal and we had a couple of kids as well. Um, and when we achieve that goal, it’s something I’ve been working towards for a long time. And that, uh, yeah, it didn’t, it didn’t through the things I thought it would do, it’s like going that car, it’s not gonna it’s not going to sort itself out. Yeah.
Guy: Okay. And then so, so you literally, like you said, you signed the papers, you’ve, you’ve moved into your dream, like whatever you’ve been visioning for while nearly 15 years you’ve achieved and then there was still that feeling within you that wasn’t the fulfillment you are hoping for, right?
Luke: No, it was immediately, there was no fulfillment. Well, uh, immediately from the tall of signing the paperwork. It was, uh, it was, it was just, uh, it was luck. I dropped into a very dark place fairly, fairly quickly. So, yeah, which was a scary time, really scary. Talking about two young kids and, um, the support network for everyone and yeah. Yeah. You’ve chased your dream and then you get there and it’s not quite exactly what you were in. Busy, Jay.
Guy: I, I th I think there’ll be a lot of people can relate to that. I know I was one of them for sure. Right. For sure. So, so was this then, did this then magnify that was already within you, like you talked about the depression, so w w was chasing the dream almost allowing you to hide from the deeper feelings that were always there.
Luke: Yeah. Oh completely. What are, I sort of did as soon as I started work with, I just, I just worked and I worked and worked and took as much work as I could. Um, and sort of really didn’t enjoy the money that was editing. I just pushed for the goal. I just put it away, we’ll do I read rather than actually enjoying my life. I just sort of had a tunnel vision for 15 years really. I surprise. And that in itself stopped me from thinking that all the things that, that, that sort of troubled me, I suppose eyes off to the side with my focus firmly on a goal. And I guess as soon as I reached that goal, then I guess shifted to everything else immediately.
Guy: Yeah, of course. So then, so then you, if that, that then started a magnified with, like you said, what was in within decide and you were feeling very trapped and depressed and I certainly know how that can feel like, um, when there’s no options. What happened next? I mean, did you, this went on for years, so did you pick up a book or did you like speak? Actually,
Luke: initially I was very lucky to have a very supportive wife, um, who basically understood cause not a lot of people in that situation, um, partners or husbands or wives that necessarily understand what’s going on. I was very lucky to have her, um, also canceling and I went and saw a psychologist, um, and had some cognitive behavioral therapy, which, um, which was good and it was allowed me to draw myself out and it was similar to meditation led me to draw myself out and look at what I was doing. Um, and in those initial stages, probably for another IDI months to two years, it was a cycle of up and down and as, as taller more on, uh, you know, the times in between, the troughs got less, uh, sorry, got, got greater and the troughs became not as, and I started, so sort of pull myself out of it. But over that time, up into sort of four years from that period, I actually just, I only felt like I was existing. I didn’t feel myself anymore. Um, and give me, sort of got to a point where more office ready to move on and have more kids. Um, and I was basically just existing so I, I couldn’t take any more on, um, which then led to the meditation or needed to, um, explore something else and then I needed to feel like myself again, eh,
Guy: totally. When did you stumble across me?
Luke: Um, it was this, that started this year in January actually. Was it? Yeah. Yeah. So at last G was a lot of wording and finding out about nutrition and health. Beautiful. And so I listen to a lot of Pete Evans podcasts.
Guy: Oh, beautiful.
Luke: And uh, I was quite interested in these is um, he’s experiences we psychedelics and actually wanted to hear him interviewed and then yeah, it was through you, um, that he, you interviewed him on your podcast and I was like, okay, what’s this? So I sort of started digging into go back catalog of podcasts and that sort of thing. It’s funnily enough that these things come around because at the start of the year I sit in intention to um, like contact and be, be part of a, a meditation community. And within a couple of days I’ll listen to your podcast and sort of join the group. Funny how these things pop up, eh,
Guy: amazing. Amazing. Yeah. Cause I remember you, you came then, um, to the workshop in Melbourne when I first met you afterward. Part of the group from, yeah.
Luke: Great experience. Because there’s a lot of the things that I’ve sort of been reading about. I hadn’t really had any confirmation from anyone. And when I came to the workshop I was like, like I said to you, Oh, it’s so good to hear with other people. I’m getting some benefit from that sort of stuff. Yeah.
Guy: Yeah. Well before the, like I’m intrigued to share the journey cause I’ve seen some amazing transformations with you, with you, you know, along the way, especially coming to the retreat and last month. But before I touch on that, before you got to the retreat and just from doing the work and getting involved with meditation and obviously my program, but all obviously books and whatever content it is has come in, like what do you think have been the biggest lessons for you with that, with learning this?
Luke: Mmm, Mmm. Mmm. They, biggest one for me is that, um, that happiness comes from within and it’s not an external, it’s not an external thing. Um, um, and that was probably the biggest lesson out of the initial stages of meditation. That if I found that I was happy with myself, um, then I’d be happy no matter what happens, regardless of the circumstances. Um, so that’s, that’s probably the main thing that I’ve got out of it. But then further than that, when you go deeper into the work, it’s, it’s about the self belief and also about discipline. I found the Tibet having the discipline to continue on and um, go deeper into this sort of stuff. And then if you’ve got couple that with the belief and just observed the smaller changes along the way, then yeah, I’ll just say that the potential of this sort of work, it’s limitless really. Yeah. And the outcome really doesn’t matter because it’s, it’s, Hey, you transformed along the way, but it’s the real, yeah. The real benefit of it.
Guy: Hmm. Has anything surprised you with this work?
Luke: Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the things that surprise me are the synchronicities. And I’ll think of, I probably sent you a couple of messages over that over the time, just about your podcast saying, Oh, the synchronicities in that story. Amazing. And yeah, for me, playing a, tried to, tried to went for 20 something years and you know, I came from the view of that row all just Stuckey randomly and we die and that’s it. And there’s no, there’s nothing else to it. We just live, we die. Nothing else. Nothing else is real. Um, and getting involved with that and it is sort of work and feeling the energy I’m in, especially sitting in a group meditation. Um, and some of those group intentions, I had some wild experiences, just incredible that I can tell people that I know pretty closely. But if I was to tell people at work that’d be like mine. You’re off your idea.
Guy: Yeah, that’s right. You’re telling thousands of people on the podcast, man, don’t worry about it. But this, this is the thing, right? And this is what shits me is the fact that when I, when I’ve been like, I’ve been on this journey a long time, obviously, and when I’m starting to have experiences like I witnessed you experience, right then years ago, I’m thinking, why doesn’t everyone know about this? Why isn’t this common knowledge? Why isn’t this a conversation that we can have without feeling like an outsider? It’s ridiculous. Because if we’re only talking about our own human potential, we’re only talking about what the human, yeah. Human being absolutely capable of. And that’s, that’s a given, right? That’s within each and every single individual that walks this planet. But yet we haven’t been taught and we haven’t been shown tools that can really help transform ourselves in a way I feel a connection to something greater than us.
Guy: That gives us the trust, the courage, the confidence to really step into who we really are and go live our lives fully. Cause that’s what this is about, right? It’s about embracing the day. It’s going, waking up in the morning and going, you know what, today is a gift. I am so grateful I’ve got this life. I’m so grateful the fact that I can turn the tap on and have the shower in the morning or drink running water or get in my car or go to work or actually have money to do things and actually start to come from a place where we can really start to appreciate. And then, and then things start to really, um, flow that things start to really shift in our favor once we get out of our own stories and get out of our own way. You know, but it’s, it’s, it can be, it can take us such a huge journey to get there.
Guy: Right. Which blows my mind. And so let, let’s, let’s dive a little bit deeper now. I wanna I wanna make a caveat because we do keep people when they come to the Richard, the three day retreat, we keep everyone in the unknown. So we’ve got to bear that in mind when we have the next conversation because I want them to still be in the unknown for anyone listening to this that decides to come in January. Right. But at the same time, you know, we can certainly talk about some experiences. How will you tell him? Could you reach out to me a few weeks before the retreat? And I knew you were, that you were coming close to something. Yeah. Moving through some sense. Share. Where were you at just before you came? Just before. Okay.
Luke: So I’d spent, we’d spend five weeks on the road just having a holiday. Beautiful holiday. So magic app up your why [inaudible] [inaudible] and we’d just come back to Melbourne to
Luke: worse. [inaudible] was whether that, uh, that had a winter and it was, you know, they said it was a bit of a shock to the system over that period of time. And I suppose from probably the last three months on pain or even the past year and starting with the program and listening to some of your podcasts and showing some of these, um, different modalities [inaudible] tapping in, that sort of thing. Um, what about, um, cavities, this, uh, just constant low level of anxiety I had in my life, which had already always been there and I’d recognize it in the past, but I’d sort of hadn’t recognized that as much lightly and I’d sort of ignored it. Um, so that was something I really wanted to get rid of and in those couple of weeks beforehand, you know, taught long and deep about it and been making some progress towards it. And I thought, okay, you know what?
Luke: I’m just going to ask guy if we can do a group intention on it because feel luck now. Uh, really recognize and I can really recognize the root causes of it. I just want to blast it out sort of thing. So, um, and you said just white to the Detroit. And I was like, okay, this is good, this will be good. And so completely took that on until it rod, I will work towards that. But in the coming sort of interim, two weeks between returning home from the holiday and coming to the rich, right. The best way I can describe myself as internal internally was like soup. I was like, there was all these different chunks of vegetables flooding around and I couldn’t really tell them apart from each other and I didn’t really know what it was that was, that was, I’m sort of getting to me. But um, yeah, certainly something there that it was, it was, yeah, it was really not shaking up, but emotions and feelings in solid really, really shit, uh, shook out a great guy.
Guy: Beautiful. And I want to, before we move on is perfect. What you said actually, because you know, there’s a famous metaphor of the Caterpillar to the butterfly, right? And, and we, we kind of find this word quite often where we’re a Caterpillar pillow. When we don’t even realize it. And then we call into our cocoon. But if you were talking the cocoon before it transformed into a butterfly, it’s soup, it’s mash, it’s, it’s the, the whole thing is broken down. So there has to be chaos and disorder before the new order arises. That’s just us as physics, as the mall. And quite often as we start digging and delving closer and closer to our own personal breakthrough or whatever that is with this work, we get in close and close as that resistance point. So when I hear people knowing, they stopped having a meltdown literally before, especially when you get, we’ll come close to that for a retreat or something because subconsciously going, Oh my God, I’m gonna have to face my fears. I’m gonna have to do this and go, wow. You know, without even realizing it from the brain, I’m just like, gold. Brilliant. Keep going. You know, soup is good.
Luke: Yeah. It said like, give me a different perspective on it all. I’ll welcome it in now because of what can come from it. Yeah,
Guy: exactly. So, so, so when you got there and can you like, ah, I’m trying to get, without giving too much away I guess, but you know, if you just come out to the of the three days and you were hanging out with somebody that was asking you, well, what did you feel? What happened? How, how did you change? Like how would you explain it to someone? Cause what I would invest in you mate was amazing. We all saw it.
Luke: Yep. Well I did, I had thanks for that. That’s awesome. Um, yeah, well I call it, it was just grind and to actually feel it, but to Hey, I mean, and you see it in other people too, but I did have a conversation with a mate who’s actually in the group as well. Um, and I’ll say to you, he said, how was it? I said, are you intending on going? And he said, Oh, I am. I said, well, okay, but short and sweet. I said, I went with no expectations. Um, yeah, I was actually, I was, yeah, that feeling of being super in solid was just taking all my attention. So I actually had no expectations when I came to it. I had no idea what we’re gonna do, um, or just said I’m going to be here and I’m committed to getting past whatever I’m feeling.
Luke: Um, and then I guess the best way I can describe it is that it was not that want to make it sandbox. It’s, you know, it’s perfect, but it’s when you just, nothing’s perfect. Now when you go with no expectations, it becomes perfect. And if you go and like you say now you just sort of, you gotta let go. Yeah. I went there and I basically had a three or four day better with my, a guy to try and let God. And the more I did just, just get right. I’m here. I’m just give into it. The more perfect to became because it, yeah, the synchronicities just started to happen. Whoever you were next to or was talking to was just the perfect conversation at the perfect time. Um, all the things that you go as facilitated, you know, they all just slyly moved through like almost my second program, which is break your open and Hey, like sort of came home. Um, I was on the floor on the white home and you know, just sort of really wasn’t unpacking anything, but I just had a burst of inspiration going like, Oh man, I’m totally inspired by this. This is incredible. And I, um, and I don’t want to pump it up too much, but we’ll walk in size. If you go with no expectations, um, number one, they’ll be excited, whatever happens, but probably the best way to go because you, you, you can pretty much have your mind aligned. So
Guy: [inaudible] and I think as well, um, what people want to get across is the amount of energy that can start to move in these things.
Luke: Hmm.
Guy: Um, and I know, cause I used to think like this, I used to think that was a metaphor. You know, we, we raise our energy, we do some exercise, we get energy, but like we can shift some serious amounts of energy in a, in a big way. And that, and quite often we don’t have, now this is neuroscience, right? We don’t have receptor cells. The, I’ve been trained to experience some of the emotions that we feel because of the energy that’s lifted. Does that make sense?
Luke: Yeah. Yeah.
Guy: So if we not used to feeling unconditional love in our life, and I’m having moments of this deep connection like we would have, having like having a newborn child for the first time or, or, or even deepest States that, that are there, then the body doesn’t recognize it. So if it doesn’t recognize it, it doesn’t know where it’s to look for. So if it doesn’t know where to look for, we don’t use the muscles. So we have to train it just like gonna apply these or something like it’s the same. We have to train that to be, and then all of a sudden once it kicks in, we can then start to take those States back into a normal life. Because we now have receptive cells that can actually know what to look for and start to experience these States. We started bringing it into our day mall.
Luke: Hmm. Sorry. Oh that, that, that level of energy is like nothing I’ve experienced before. It was incredible. Literally my two days lights, I’m always, I felt, I actually felt my internal bone structure still vie writing from the energy. It was incredible.
Guy: What do you think you’ve like from the work, from starting on your journey then coming into later in, coming into the membership and then going to the retreat on where you’re at now, what do you think you’ve sort of learned to let go of, have moves through to allow you to continue on this path of exploration?
Luke: The, the biggest thing, man, it’s always fear that you’re having to let go of, it doesn’t matter how many lives you peel off is always fear underneath it at. That’s what I’ve found anyway. But one of the biggest things I’ve learned is just to have, it’s just a have fight, um, that if I continue on down this path and it’s going to lead, it’s led me to where it’s led me now, which is selling much better than lawful was beforehand. And I just have the fight to, to believe that it’ll continue. And that’s a big one for me because there’s been times in my life where I’ve had just the knowing, um, it’s going to happen and then eventually happened. They’ve been few and far between, but now I sort of, I sort of go into each day or each like the mowing that I’m going to be with sort of university’s going to look after me in some respect, you know what I mean? And then just, and that helps lose the fee and whatever situational minis is the right situation to in because there’ll be a lesson there.
Guy: Yeah, totally. And what do you think that with that kind of knowing and understanding that quite often we live life from fear based decisions and starting to become comfortable of making growth based decisions. And you know, because we need challenges, otherwise we wouldn’t grow. We would just get lazy. I know I do. I need a rocket up my ass half the time, but as long as it’s there, I keep moving forward. You know, to overcome those fears. I mean, do you think about as you start to learn and know this work and know that there’s way many more layers to unveil, right? That you can go much deeper with this, um, where you, what life would look like 12 months from now, 24 months from now, five years from now?
Luke: Hmm. What do you, what do I think it would look like? Yeah, I’ll do it. Yeah. Um, I mean the, the life I’m living now or envisage two years ago, and when I first came up with the idea of that tail want to live, I didn’t believe it. But I’ve just kept pushing in the thought, Oh, I’m going there. That’s, that’s what I’m doing. I don’t need to break out of what I’m doing. And now that I’m here, it’s beautiful off and I’m living. But in terms of purpose I feel of is more, I want more purpose in my life. So then I’ve now got the vision of the next 12 months to 24 months and yeah, coming and that was another thing coming home on the flying after the retreat, it was like I looked in my hand and I had all these, you know, before I left together tread if retried, I would look in my hand and I had all these pieces to the puzzle and I just had no idea how they went together because just random places. And it was like someone and to me, the actual box that the puzzle came in on the way home. And then I’ll just open up the box and saw the picture and went, ha ha, I’ve got all those places. I’m gonna have to do this. You know, it was just, just the clarity, um, to just yay, sort of blast all that other stuff out of out of me and then have that picture of clarity on the why I am was like, Oh, this is incredible. Yeah.
Guy: Yeah. Beautiful. Beautiful. And what would you say to anyone listening to this that might have a yearning for more? They might have an itch. They can’t scratch, they sit on the fence, they’re debating whether to jump into, let it in, let it in Academy online or the come to the retreat and just go all in. Like what would you say to that person that was on the fence?
Luke: Just, just to, um, if you’re even considering it, it’s just the, I mean, for me, I just thought in, yeah, if I hit a block or I’m, I’m sort of on the fence and not sure which way to go. Just dive into something. You just to feel what it’s like to have something new in your life, you know? Yeah. Um, and in terms of joining the group, just, just jump into that as well because, um, there’s a support network there. Um, you know, and if the one thing I realized from the retreat that a lot of people don’t have that now a lot of people who are into this sort of work, um, and I was like that myself, but I’ve slightly reached out to people and, and they sort of build up a little community of mine. If you’re unsure about stepping into this sort of work because of the fear of being ridiculed or w or not paying accepted, then you can step into something like your community and be embraced. And then from you did, you ran the
Guy: going to grind and you’ve just learned so much from other people who are at different stages in a, in a journey. And you can just yay. It’s, it’s, it’s, it’s a, it’s an excellent, it’s such a good girl today and salt. [inaudible] yeah. Thank you. Like I, like I mentioned earlier, I’m determined to make this the new norm, so, uh, we’ll just keep, keep going with it, that’s for sure. Cool. I just want to mention before we wrap up the podcast as well, Luke, and I know like on your transition, you’ve started a podcast this year, right?
Luke: Yeah, that’s right. Yeah.
Guy: So tell us about it. What’s it called? A [inaudible].
Luke: The podcast is called 100 meditators. So that’s [inaudible] 100 as in the numbers and meditators and it’s also I Instagram page that goes along with it. And that was something I’d, Oh, I’d a hundred out the start of the year to get myself involved with other people, um, that meditate and actually it might be ability to deepen my practice and learn from them. What did they do? So the podcast and that page started around trying to normalize it and also just get it ordinary people involved. Um, you know, it’s not real gurus in their row, just, um, when I, people who have come from different backgrounds and through ordinary jobs and Hey, I’ve got their own perspective and I find personally that learning from your peers is probably one of the best ways to learn as well because totally you can really understand what they talking about. Yay.
Guy: Yeah, good on ya. And you’re enjoying the podcast journey.
Luke: Yeah. Look, it’s, it’s a challenge. It’s a challenge on much respect to how many of you have gone, it’s a lot of work and it’s a challenge. Um, but yeah, each time I do one. Okay. Okay. Camel, I was just more knowledge and yeah, I feel better for actually sort of putting something into the world and the goal was to at least affect how one person in in it in some way. And that’s been a change pretty quickly.
Guy: I’m just going to say, I’m sure you’ve achieved that by now for sure.
Luke: Yeah. So yeah, it’s just, it’s, it’s, yeah, I’m enjoying the process. Yay. And it’s like a challenge. Like I sit in a crane and pull overs all day, you know, I barely speak. I now I’m sort of interviewing people about it, so yay. It’s nice to push yourself out of the comfort zone.
Guy: Totally. Totally. I tell you, like for me, podcasting has been hugely challenging and rewarding at the same time, you know, and it, uh, I’ll certainly be, I certainly going to keep going for a whole lot longer as well. So, um, yeah, look, I just want to give you a shout out mate and just acknowledged for everything you do. Cause I’ve seen the courage and the determination and you’re still stepping into your true self, which, which isn’t easy. And uh, and you know, from what I at the retreat as well, it was just beautiful and yeah, I know you inspired a lot of people there as well and you know, congrats on everything you do, mate. And starting a podcast as well and moving forward because again, it’s easy to say I’ll do that and then we leave it on the process on. So I definitely encourage everyone to check out your podcast, mate. A hundred meditators. I’ll make sure I’ll link in the show notes. Um, people can find you on iTunes and of course Instagram as well. So get amongst it, support Luke appreciate it. Thanks.
Luke: Much respect. Thanks to the, uh, the support and, um, yeah, the kind words beautiful.
Guy: No worries, man. No worries. Thanks for coming on Luke. You inspired many people today. You really well. Thank you!
Luke: Thanks brother.
Guy: Thanks.