#186 This week I’m here with Cyndi O’Meara and this episode is all about nutrition and what consuming healthy food can do for us. Cyndi is a nutritionist, filmmaker, and an educator whose passion for teaching enables everyone to make healthier choices. During our conversation today, we discuss the importance of healthy food, the role of our upbringing in our lifestyle choices, how we can shield ourselves from the negative effects of mainstream media, and how we can learn to reconnect with our bodies. If you are looking for more ways to contribute to your mental and physical health, this episode is for you.

“I said, I know exactly what the what the human body needs. It needs real food. That was the 1980s. And my mantra hasn’t changed.”

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About Cyndi: Cyndi O’Meara is a nutritionist and educator whose greatest love is to teach, both in the public arena and within the large corporate food companies, and to enable everyone to make better choices so they too can enjoy greater health throughout their lives.  Her unique, surprisingly simple yet extensively researched but down-to-earth approach, challenges and encourages others to eliminate unhealthy habits and has inspired thousands to make smarter choices about the food they choose to put into their body.

Cyndi confronts her audiences, whether within the public or corporate sectors, she has the courage to call out deception and misinformation and believes in arming people with the tools and resources to reach their goals. By educating people on food choices, how to read food labels, why diets don’t work, and how drugs can affect your total well-being and vitality, Cyndi empowers them to make long lasting changes with simple and achievable steps on how to create healthier habits.

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Key points with time stamp:

• Does upbringing play a role in joyful living? (00:11)
• Does an unhealthy upbringing foster unhealthy life habits? (02:10)
• What can actually heal us? (07:52)
• Will the state of the world today push us to reconnect with our bodies? (13:13)
• The negative effects of mainstream media (18:30)
• How can we learn from adversity? (22:47)
• The interplay between health and happiness (34:36)
• What skills should we impart to our children or grandchildren? (40:42)
• “You, are all powerful” (45:23)

Mentioned in this episode:

• 180 Nutrition, Guy’s previous company
• Many Lives, Many Masters, 1988. A book by Dr. Brian Weiss
• Bruce Lipton

Cyndi’s Website:
Changing Habits | Health for all generations

Cyndi’s Programs:
Lifestyle Programs | Changing Habits

Cyndi’s Documentary:
What’s With Wheat | Eat at your own risk. (whatswithwheat.com)

 

About me:

My Instagram:
www.instagram.com/guyhlawrence/?hl=en

My website:
www.guylawrence.com.au
www.liveinflow.co

 

TRANSCRIPT

Guy 00:00
Cindy, welcome to the podcast.

Cyndi 00:09
Well, thanks, guy. I’m looking forward to this.

Guy 00:11
Me too. I’m genuinely looking forward to this, you know, I feel blessed to have gotten to know you and Kim a little bit earlier this year from the retreat. And, and one thing that stood out for me, as I got to know you a bit more, Cindy, is that you’re definitely somebody that is a bit of a go getter that doesn’t doesn’t rest. I can’t imagine you lounging around watching Netflix all day or something like that, you know, you there’s, there’s a constant drive in you and I mean, from the the deepest compliment, you know, so I’m always curious, and I thought I’d start there today is way does that hunger, that thirst for life, and that thirst for knowledge and that quest come from with you? Because you’re very, you just thought you’re just so passionate about living? That’s for sure.

Cyndi 00:58
Oh, nobody’s ever asked me that question. I actually don’t know, I guess. I guess I can only say that I was brought up that way. You know, my dad was a go getter. He was a hiker. We had a bus in the 1960s dad had a boss and he put a bed in and they called it a bed ford. So he was doing things long before I think anybody else was really thinking about it, you know, now everyone’s got a bus and everyone’s got a caravan. Whereas, you know, he had this bend forward. And I think it was because mom didn’t want to go camping. She liked her luxury. So he put a bed in a bus and we all went camping in the bus. The only thing I can say here is was my family and my upbringing. And they were go getters, you know, dad was a kiwi who went to America met my mom. They came to Australia to live, they moved around, they settled in Bendigo. That’s, you know, I can only think that that was my upbringing, because my brother is exactly the same. He’s a world champion, freestyle skier. He is a television presenter a weatherman, you know, he’s done the same thing. And my sister was the same. So I guess, upbringing?

Guy 02:10
Yeah, it’s a beautiful trait. Right. That’s amazing. I, I’m curious. I’m curious to know as well, you know, with your like, yeah, like I was on your website this morning, Sunday. And it’s remarkable the amount of information that you have on there, the amount of things that you’re constantly putting out in the world. I mean, even back from my 180 nutrition days, I mean, I’ve been watching you from afar for a long time. And you’re always at the forefront and constantly putting a message out there and constantly evolving that message as well, if that’s fair to say, and it blows my mind that I guess what you’ve done, and I don’t know if building an empire is the right word, because you you’ve you’ve You’re so passionate about one’s health, and putting this work out there. And I’m always fascinated to know, even with those aspects come from, why why health? Why this journey for you? What’s that? Where did that start with that, again, from upbringing as well?

Cyndi 03:14
Yeah, it is, it actually is. So if I can go back to my parents, because I think that has been an incredible influence on me. So my mom was the oldest of 11 children. Her father was a corn farmer in Iowa, USA. There was a real love of farming by my grandfather who didn’t agree with the chemical revolution. So he was a farmer in 1938 and 59, after my mom was born, when they sprayed arsenic and lead on the corn fields, across 14 states of the USA, which have absolutely made it toxic. And he was against that. He was also against DDT, which started in 1945. So he was a farmer that was out there saying, this new way of farming is going to be a problem in the future. And all the farmers said, Hey, Vince, you know, this is the new way of farming, you got to do it, you got to get into it. And he ended up losing his farm for many reasons, and maybe we’ll talk about that. But he ended up using losing the farm. I had an incredible two acre plot. So 11 children, you can imagine he had to feed them without a Farm He Had to feed them on that two acre plot was grains and corn, of course and vegetables and fruit and goats and chickens and he fed that family of eleven. So that was my mom’s side. And then my my dad’s side, he, he basically grew up in kakora, New Zealand. He became a pharmacist. And after six years of pharmacy, he realised that he was killing people not making them well. And he had this specific person who used to come in for Pepto bismol and on this one line About a month he hadn’t been coming in or two months. And he saw him in the street. And he said, you know, why are you coming in for your Pepto bismol. And the guy said to him, all the quack up the road fix me. And my dad’s thinking what fixes indigestion and the quack up the road was a chiropractor. And so my dad went in, in his curiosity, he went and visited this man, quit pharmacy immediately, for 10 months, he and another friend worked as painters to make enough money to fly to Iowa, USA in 1956, I believe it was fly to, Iowa, USA where the only school of chiropractic was, and he learned the exact opposite from mechanistic health care to vitalistic health care, my mom came to Australia. And that’s how I was brought up, I was brought up on a good food because my mother and had her father’s influence. And my grandmother, she can’t everything or, you know, bottled everything, they had a seller that had all the food they needed for the winter, because it snows and there’s no way you can grow food in the winter. So so she had the upbringing of her mother and father. And then my father just said, Unless it’s a life threatening situation, I will not be giving my children any medications whatsoever. So while everybody else was being vaccinated, and there was only you walk to your vaccines back then, you know, you were five or six, we would sit in the classroom and not be vaccinated. If anybody was having, you know, Bond jello or antibiotics or panadol. He said, Your body needs to deal with it so that it can deal with the big things in life, your body needs to deal with that fever, so it can deal with the bigger inflammations in life. And that was, that was the way we were brought up. And I’m 61 in one month, and I’ve never had an antibiotic panadol any form of medication whatsoever, I have no chronic disease, I am the opposite to what the rest of the Australian population is basically, like at the moment, which is 80% above my age group have chronic disease. So I mean, that little 20% 80% 80% have one or more chronic diseases over the age of 65. So a little bit older than me, but almost almost there are kids 38 to 40% of our kids have chronic disease now 2% of the population when I was born in 19, I was born 1960. So in 1962, there was a census, and that census showed that between two and 4% of the whole population had a chronic disease. What happened, you have to ask? So I guess my dad was so passionate about it. He’s 93 next month. And you know, he’s still passionate about this. He loves chiropractic. He is he is one of those guys that will go to his grave. Making sure he is making people well.

Guy 07:52
Yeah, amazing. Amazing. And when did you in on your journey, decide in your path to start stepping out there yourself and putting the message out there? Because the one thing that’s clear is that if if we have a message that especially it comes from the heart, and we want to share and we want to help others, quite often people just don’t want a don’t want to hear it. Or we can get pushed back a lot from from wanting to, I guess create change resistant to it as well. Yeah, whether this Did you always know you’re gonna be doing what you were doing?

Cyndi 08:28
No, no, not at all. I’m an adventurer. So like my dad and mom, we we they we did lots of adventures. They took us around the world for three months when I was 14. So I will right through Asia up through Pakistan, into England across to Europe, over to America, Hawaii. Did we stop in Fiji? No, we ended up going Hawaiian straight home. So we took three months to do that. So I had an adventure in my blood. And my dad being an adventurer also loves skiing. And so I thought, well, I’m going to go skiing and go to university at the same time, which you can’t do in Australia. So I picked the University of Colorado in Boulder 20 minutes was the nearest ski slope. And then I had Vail and Aspen and, and being the only aussie at the University of Colorado. I was invited to every condo, on every mountain in Colorado, I had the best time the best time. So I wanted to educate myself as well. So I thought well, I’ll go to university and I did pre med because I knew health was something that I wanted to do. My sister was doing chiropractic at Davenport, Iowa, but at this stage and I entered pre med. So I did a year of pre med and in that year, you’re allowed electives. And one of the electives I did was anthropology, then I love that so much. I did cultural anthropology. And at the end of the year, I thought, Oh my gosh, it’s food that has been the most important thing that has created the evolution of people. It’s food that will make us well. So you know, mom was a great cook, but we never really talked about nutrition or dietetics. It was just we all ate well, mom would go to the local fruit and veggies. Dad would have the egg men bring eggs in for a barter system for chiropractic. So we always had excellent food made by half a cow, is just the way we lived it. So at the end of that year, I decided that I wanted to be a dietitian. So I came back to Australia and started my Bachelor of Science majoring in nutrition, about to go into dietetics finished my degree and when all this is Bs, majoring we didn’t eat majoring throughout our anthropology, or evolution. And we didn’t do that in cultural anthropology as well. And low fat No, we ate fat and less meat. No, we did that breakfast cereals really. So to me, it was such a disconnect with what I had learned in my first year at university. So I thought, well, I couldn’t go against the grain per se. I went back to university for two years cut up cadavers. So due to human anatomy, pathology, histology, embryology, parasitology. Any allergy you can do, I did, and after six years of university, I went, I know exactly what the what the human body needs, it needs real food. So that was the 1980s. And my mantra hasn’t changed. All the ultra processed crap food out there, including the vegan food, the ultra processed meats and dairies, that so called meats and dairies, they’re not going to heal us make us well give us the ingredients we need in order for this incredible name, innate intelligence in our body to do. So. I guess that’s, that’s how it all started. I also did a course. After I finished at the University of Colorado. I loved hiking, and I loved camping. And there was an opportunity to do a two month land management, Western wilderness, Outward Bound course out of Crested Butte, Colorado. And that, to me was like music to my ears where I would be out of civilization. This is 1981. So I’d be out of civilization. I would be hiking through the mountains of Colorado, we even went into New Mexico and Arizona, and learning about how to manage land, basically. And yeah. So I think all of that was an incredible grounding on the importance of nature, breath work. You know, I do that every day, I do breath work every day, 40 minutes every day. You know, meditation time in nature, clean water, that, that cultural anthropology, that anthropology that allowed us the ingredients we need in order to be the best human being that we can possibly be without interference. And this is what’s happening at the moment is there’s so much interference in this innate intelligence, that we’re getting sicker and sicker. mentally, physically and spiritually.

Guy 13:13
I know. I know. Wow. First of all, I gotta say, you, when I’m listening to you, you make me want to just pack up my bags and go travelling right now. Obviously, I can’t because I’m still in lockdown. But it’s, it’s beautiful to hear Cyndi, it truly is. And it sounds like Well, it sounds like your parents who groovers I mean, what unbelievable to have that upbringing as well. Like truly, you know, and, and second to that. And I see myself in some of the things that you spoke around because I was that guy that was so disconnected to my food source to too many things in my life, just from my cultural upbringing, and just being out that oblivious to actually reconnecting back to that, that innate intelligence or things that you speak of. And I guess that’s why I’m so passionate now. Because having to go through my own 1010 years of struggle to then 10 years of epiphany is to then like, fully coming out the other side going, why aren’t we looking at this? Why aren’t we reconnecting back? Why aren’t we nurturing our land? Why aren’t we nurturing ourselves more, and starting to plug more and actually trusting that wisdom within us and everything you just said? That just resonates so much? I just I just wanted to say that as well. Do you use it like because obviously we’re in a very, very pivotal time in history right now. Do you think that your Are you optimistic for the future? Do you think it’s going to encourage us to start connecting back to that innate wisdom and start trusting ourselves, our bodies and the natural surroundings more

Cyndi 14:50
in my way of thinking guys, something had to happen. Otherwise, we would have continued on this trajectory and more and more people would have been oblivious to what I believe the elite. And when I talk about the elite, I’m talking about chemical companies, pharmaceutical companies, agricultural companies, I actually believe that there’s an awakening and awakening, that we cannot continue down the road we’re going, and that is that we are being absolutely killed by the amount of chemicals that are in our on our planet, in our food supply, on our cosmetics on our, on everything, even on our clothes, you know, like if you look at the clothes and the chemicals that the dyes that they put on our clothes, we have to be really careful of this. So I actually believe it’s a it’s a coming back to home or coming back to the community. Because if we choose with our money, not to support these big chemical companies, these big agricultural companies, and I’m talking about Bayer and Monsanto and Pfizer, and you know, all of that, and even big money. So I’m very much for going back to my local bank. So my co op bank Mulvaney. So my farm is a millennia, and they have a wonderful bank up there. That is a you know, it’s supported by the shareholders. It’s not supported by one of the big four. So in my way of thinking, this is a coming home and coming back to community. And I don’t know how I get this across to people, that if we spend our money in our local community, with our small farmers, our for us, farmers markets, our organic suppliers, our small shops, our small butchers, if we start to give our money to these guys, our community will thrive. But not only will they thrive, but we as a human health species, will, will thrive as well as with all the animals. So this globalisation that’s trying to happen, I’m hoping it’s pushing it the other way, that people become more community minded, and they’re locking us up. So we have to be community minded. The thing is, is that you don’t support McDonald’s, Kentucky Fried Chicken, you don’t support any of those guys that are creating ultra processed foods that are killing us and the planet. You don’t support I’m sorry, Coles and Woolworths anymore, because they sell ultra processed foods. I have a tiny little organic shop that I go into. It’s just packed jam. And it’s small, but that’s who I’m supporting. I support my local butcher, I support my local farmers market as much as possible. I am supporting my local community. And I have a barter system with my organic in the names grub, that grubbing mudjimba. But I have a barter system with them. So I bring them in excess projects that I have from the farm. So all my Oranges and lemons and I never give them my apples. I never have enough apples. But peaches or nectarines, depending on the season, I just gave them all my lettuces. Anything that I’ve got extra of I give to them, and we have a barter system, so she doesn’t pay me. We just do a beautiful barter system. And this is what I think if we get back to this, then we’re not only helping our health, our family’s health, but our community’s health and our communities. Economy. It’s simple. It’s not hard.

Guy 18:30
I know I know. But again, I know it’s I know it’s not hard but it’s almost like we can’t see the woods for the trees sometimes. And I still think because I was that guy honestly like it took a few knocks across the head I think for it to fully land for me to really step into it and but for me the biggest journey has been from my head to my heart and actually reconnecting to that and then listening to that more so than what comes up in my mind. And but as I’ve trusted and grown that connection and live from this place, it’s allowed me to fully see things like the very things that you think about and come from that place and sadly I wasn’t raised like that in culturally i mean you know that there is there is no disconnect everything is all from the left minded the egoic side if you like and we seem to be striving more and more are reaching more for that but it’s it’s it’s a never ending fulfilment. There’s no fulfilment in it even then when we get there and we set all these goals and achievements. It doesn’t come back and it’s it’s the very things that you speak about is what fills me up every day. It’s actually being able to, to smile, go at it at a slower pace and have a conversation look somebody in the eye and get to know thy neighbour and be in a place where I’m around nature as well and but I’ve had to sadly know sadly but courageously, I think make choices in my life that allowed me to slowly move in that direction when I said enough was enough. And from that this something beautiful is blossomed. And that’s what I’m certainly hoping for, as well. Moving forward.

Cyndi 20:16
So you do world crisis, that guy, this is a world crisis? No, yes, yes, you are, you’re awakened without that you maybe had a self crisis or a family crisis. But this is a world crisis. And I really believe it’s an awakening how long this is going to take, I have no idea. And I’m not impatient. I’m patient as much as I can possibly be. I have my family around me, I have my farm. I have my community, I just feel that it is about not, I don’t watch any mainstream media, by the way, someone will tell me if I need to do something, or I’ll say something. So I refuse to watch. And listen, I don’t my radio is not on, I’m listening to podcasts, I’m, if I if I’m at home, I’m usually listening to an audio book or something like that. I’m not interested in the lies of mainstream media and the fear mongering. Because what we have to do is we have to step out of that. And we have to step into a space of empowerment and education, and realising that we are all powerful. But we must act we can’t just educate, we must act on what is needed in order for our community, our family and ourselves to survive. And to me, it’s, it’s all based around food connection, breathwork meditation if, like, if somebody asked me today, or do you do do do you do much tm Cindy, I went, No, I only just do the 40 minutes of my breath work, you know, I can’t get into the TM even though tm is completely different transcendental meditation, I find that Yeah, my breath work is, is something I love. And I think, you know, be excited about life. And don’t get bogged down with the drama and the fear that’s happening on the outside world. Because if you didn’t have mainstream media on which I doubt in, you live in your own little bubble. You wouldn’t know that the world was in an absolute crisis or humanity, not the world. Humanity is in an absolute crisis. So protect yourself. Yes. Know what’s happening. Yes, get out there and protest, by all means, yes, get out and say things, but also protect yourself from the fear, I think is probably number one. Yeah.

Guy 22:47
Yeah, no, I agree. It’s massive, its massive. If you don’t build a fortress around your own, your own unit, your own pod, I’m very careful as well with with actually what gets in there. Because if I can’t be up my, my, in a best, present myself moving forward into the world, then what good am I to anyone exactly and, and the information that’s slips in is very, very crucial. You know, I want to I want to touch on Cindy, if you don’t mind a little bit about adversity, because I think, you know, through my, my, my podcasts, I think I think we’re over 170 interviews now, which still boggles my mind. Coming in, and quite often, one thing I’ve found that a lot of people reach out to me for is is taking inspiration from that, and I think there’s a lot of obviously is a lot of adversity, going through in our own lives right now. And navigating through that and come out to the side and create a meaning out of that because quite often some of the difficult things in life we can look back upon with wisdom later or the wisdom from it, but at the time, it can feel like very difficulty and and and I know for yourself that there’s been adversity in your life as well with your ankles, if I do believe as well in time and I was wondering if you would mind just sharing a little bit about that and and what you’ve learned from that in reflection now?

Cyndi 24:12
Yeah. So I said to you that my mom was the oldest of 11. And before her first brother was born, the arsican lead was being sprayed. And in 19, so mom was born 1937 arsican lead was being sprayed 3839 in 1939. Her first brother was born and he was they circumcised him at I can’t remember what time but he kept bleeding. And so they did tests and they realised he had a disorder called Haemophilia. So it’s a bleeding disorder that if you cut yourself or bruise, you just keep bleeding. You’ve got no clotting factor factor eight was what was missing with him or with him. And so like the statistics on Haemophilia is that you no one in the family will have it. Well, mom had had seven brothers and six have we’ve given him had Haemophilia. So there was no Haemophilia in our family. None. No, not sideways up once nowhere in till that uncle was born. So was it the second layer? I don’t know. I have no idea. But was it that that was causing the problem? So then seven brothers, six all had Haemophilia. So that’s why my uncle, my Sorry, my grandfather lost the farm, he had no boys to help him. He had no, that was why they had so many kids. They, my grandfather was one of 14, my grandmother was one of 14. And, you know, they had kids to help them on the farm. They were German descent, then a new drug came out. So if they bleed if my uncle’s bleed, they used to go to hospital and they had to sit still for about three weeks until the bleeding stopped. And they were okay. So when a new drug came out, which was called kreil, or factor A, they had a new lease on life, or they had to do as grammar was a nurse or grandma had to do was inject them with with factor aid and the blood would, the body would clot, or the blood would clot. But then because of via which I find interesting, Bayer has bought Monsanto and we’ll talk about that. But because they knew there was something in the plasma, which was making the factor eight for my uncle’s and all the people that had him a failure in the in the country in the US. They knew something was in it, but they didn’t pull the product. And so every single one of my uncle’s two wives and one of my cousins, or contracted HIV, they were all put on a drug called azt, which was a cancer drug that was killing people fat faster than it healed the cancer. So they pulled it from the cancer drug repertoire and gave it to my uncle’s and I watched, they all died of AIDS at they all died from the drug azt, they didn’t die from AIDS. The drug gave them AIDS. And the main guy behind this was Fauci, Fauci, who’s the main guy behind what’s happening now. So Fauci stopped research. He wanted the accolades of this research that Judy McCovey was doing, Dr. Judy mikovits was doing. And basically Fauci stopped this research about the AZT and about the virus and things like that, and basically killed my uncles and my and two of my aunts, and one of my cousins, so we lost eight family members as a result of of Bayer not doing what they should have done and pulled the product long before. So that was that was an I watched my mom, you know, watch each one of her brothers passed away. And what’s interesting if you look at that whole family we’ve had two with psychotic issues once committed suicide one with bad Chiari. That was an art and my mum would have been at what she had been about 85 at this point, she’s died she died at 69 of lung cancer never smoked, but I believe that was the DDT and, and maybe the grief and everything that happened. But I look at you know, what, what actually happened there and the amount of disease that my family had, and you can only put it down to the chemicals that were being sprayed in Iowa and all those things. So, so my mom had my sister in in the USA. And my sister was born in 1959. My mom couldn’t eat for those first three months of her birth of her pregnancy with my sister. So my mom would have been filled with us Neko LED and DDT and any other chemicals that were being sprayed in the middle of the chemical revolution. So she would have been sprayed with all that she would have had them in a fat cells because it’s fat loving, so she would have dumped them onto my sister and my sister was born small. She was always little. She was always sick, and she passed away from cancer in her 40s. She was diagnosed with an autoimmune disease called christe, which was an acronym for five autoimmune diseases like she had, Here am I the best of health? Because I was born 16 months after her mom had cleaned out, she had me and then she had my brother. So my brother, my dad and I are in robust health, but my mum and my sister were always never in the robust of health and, and both of those passed away five months apart from each other. I think my mom, she’d watched her. Her uncle’s sorry, her brothers passed away and, and her family passed away. And I think the last straw was her mother died in the February and then my sister was diagnosed with esophageal cancer and then I noticed my mom My mom had the most beautiful feet, boys were the most beautiful shoes. And they had swollen like elephant feet. And I said, Mom, what’s happening? So that’s when we realised that she was sick and had lung cancer. And I think it was just too much for her. And she passed away before my sister, and then my sister passed away after that. So yeah, that was, these were. I don’t usually cry about this. But there’s just so much happening in the world at the moment, that I find myself becoming more emotional than I’ve ever been before. Because I’m pretty stoic, and I’m pretty, pretty good at talking about this. But you know, losing those those to the cancer, my, my first belief was, because this was back in 2006. So my first belief was, oh, what good am I, I’m a nutritionist, and I couldn’t even help them. But we do the best with the knowledge we’ve got at the time. And then as we do know better, we do better. And what I found amazing is that their deaths really opened up my spiritual world for me. So at first it was I’m giving up nutrition, I’m no good as a nutritionist, what good am I couldn’t even help them. Maybe I’ll do spiritual work. You know, I really understand that. Now. I went to Brian waste. I I’ve seen so many past lives and future lives. But what that gave me was, I think, peace and incredible peace about all the tragedy that had happened before that. And then I don’t know, you know, my husband joined me in my business he gave me he said, Why don’t you create a documentary on your discovery about all these chemicals that you’re learning about? And it was, it was doing that documentary that I realised it wasn’t my fault, mom and sister died. It was the regulatory bodies in the US, and Australia. It was their mismanagement of what was being passed and what was being sprayed on our foods, and what was allowed in our foods and what was allowed on our skin and what was allowed on, you know, in agriculture, it was there, misrepresentation of things being safe and not safe, and it was the companies. So I forgave myself, because you’ve got to forgive yourself at some point. So I forgave myself for that. And then thought, I have a lot of information here, a lot of stuff that people need to know. And I realised what I do is I learned for myself first. And then I pass that knowledge on. So I learned for myself, I do the best that I can for my health and my family’s health. And then I go, this knowledge needs to be passed on. And so that’s why I write, I write, you know, an article a week goes on my blog, or I write books. I did a documentary, I have an, you know, a nutrition education programme. So, and tomorrow, you know, I’m doing an all day webinar with my graduates, teaching them how they can teach other people. Because if there’s this incredible ripple effect, that you have guy and I have them, we can create the tsunami of changes, which is what I’m looking for. But we have to, I believe, get more and more people on board. More and more people need to know this, because so many people are suffering because they don’t know this. They think that the grocery store with its ultra processed foods with the government wouldn’t put something in my food that was gonna make me sick wouldn’t be allowed on the supermarket shelf. If it was, if it was not good for my health. Surely that drug, you know, is okay. they’ve they’ve okayed it for provisional approval, you know, so people have this stupid, stupid, I think it is belief that our government is about our health. But I don’t I believe in the last 18 months that our government has shown what they really think about our health. And it is, you know, when we know the ingredients of health, and they don’t allow us to have those ingredients in their health, then you can see where their narrative is. And it’s it’s not about our health. I can, I’ve seen it for 40 years, I’ve been doing this 40 years, with the Dietary Guidelines with the chemicals being sprayed on our food with the synthetic biology that’s allowed in our food that people don’t even know is in their food. You know, they just think they believe that their food is is safe and the government sanctioned it.

Guy 34:36
Yeah. Firstly, thank you for sharing that. Honestly. I I didn’t know the full story, Cyndi and so thank you. The what I’m fascinated as well out of all that is that the spawning of spiritual growth that you use you spoke of and speak of and leaning down. If, if, if you could encapsulate what that means to you in a nutshell, what would it be?

Cyndi 35:09
Before my, yeah, before my sister died. I don’t know if I can do it in a little nutshell. It’s gonna be a bigger one. So before my sister died, I remember sitting on my veranda and and I said to her, I said, How do we know what happens when we die? You know, my sister was, she was an incredible mind. Anyway, I said, How do we know what happens when we die? What if? What if we die and there’s nothing? And then she goes, and then I go, and but what if we die? And there’s something what what is what is there? And she just goes, does it really matter? Cindy, doesn’t really matter. That you knowing right now, when you die, whether something’s gonna happen or not, you know, it’s it’s not important right now you have to stay in that in that present moment. So when she passed away, I saw her passed with incredible grace. I was there when she passed. She told jokes. She said to me, I must have learned on my lessons. I’m it’s now time for me to go. It she’s Yeah, she she fired her receptionist saying she didn’t need her anymore. Just these these incredible things that she did. So I watched her her pass with incredible growth with incredible grace, and not scared at all. And she knew she was dying. You know, she, she had about, I’d say 12 hours where she knew that this was the end for her. Um, she came to me in a dream. I would say three weeks after she passed away within three weeks after she passed away. And we were having an argument. She was in a bit in beside me and a single bed. And I looked at her and I went, I thought you died? And she said, No, I didn’t. I said, I watched you die. You know, it’s like this argument. And she goes, No, Cindy, we don’t die. So it’s almost like she answered my question to her in life. She answered it in my dream in her depth. The very next day, I was with my daughters, and they were wanting to look at surf gear. And I lost the plot in the surf shop just started to cry. And they pulled me out of the surf shop. And right next to it was a spiritual shop. I walked into the spiritual shop, and I went Beeline to a bookshop, pulled the book out the books, part of it, pull this book out, looked at it, read the back and thought nine, nine, and I put it back, I got home and girlfriend said I have a gift for you. And it was that book. Wow. Yeah, it was that book. And it was called many lives many masters. by Brian wait. So I, I I read every book on the subject or a journey of the soul. So those are the souls I can’t read every book I could possibly read on the topic. And I felt like my sister pushed me towards that. And so now I leave. Like even with all this happening in the world, I kind of go well, I know what happens when I go. I know. I’ve seen my future lives. I’ve seen my past lives. I and when I was at your Live In Flow, and we did that incredible sound and breath healing. Oh my gosh, I think I said it right? You guys asked what was it? Like I went? Fish right in my life. That’s right, I went through from, you know, 1000s of years ago right to the future. And it was just like this gallop through time. Like, I get goosebumps thinking about it is just absolutely incredible. So people have been put into my lives you met Omo, the two of you together, you know, have been put into my life to increase my spiritual understanding. And even though I don’t talk about it, except now but I don’t talk about it. When I’m when I’m talking nutrition, I talk health. It has been a way of understanding that I’ve put myself on this planet, this time for a reason. And I either can stay quiet, or I can make a noise and help other souls reach whatever it is that they need to reach in order to not fear what is happening at the moment to find health, to find once you find health, I think your mind becomes really clear. You know, you get you haven’t got a foggy brain and you’re not having to press thoughts. You know, I’m listening to a book at the moment and it’s by a woman who’s depressed, and I’m listening to her thoughts and I’m thinking I’ve never thought that way. I’ve never had those thoughts. But it’s interesting listening to her. Because when we get our physical body well and mental thoughts become more positive. And so my drive is to get people to get as healthy as they can, so that they now have the time to be nice to themselves. And as Kim Marsan would say, you know, have self love. And with that, you just emanate it, you just kind of go, you know, this is a great Well, this is a great planet. It’s, there’s so much to do, like, I might be stuck in Queensland, I know you’re stuck in New South Wales. But I might be second Queensland and not be able to see my brother and my father and my niece and my nephew. But I got a whole world out there that I can hike. That’s just an hour from my place, and I can disappear for three days. Nobody knows where I am. That’s the way I look at it.

Guy 40:42
Yeah, beautiful. That’s a beautiful nutshell. Thank you. And it is right with it. Oh, my God, this, I’m just cheering you on with every word you say. And right now, Cindy, honestly, like, and I think about it, like, because I’m 20 minutes north of Byron Bay, and I’m a guy from Wales that, you know, grew up near coal mines in the valleys, you know, and, and I think of, of as tough as it is, or how many things I get to be grateful for each day and focus on those things that fill me up. And, and one one aspect of it is, like you say, what we eat, what we do, how we live supports our, our mental well being so so much. And it’s so crucial. You know, I’m curious to know as well. what’s what’s, what’s next view, because your path has been forever moving, adapting and growing. And you’ve you’ve got to this point now, I guess, in your life, and it’s like, Where are you just one day at a time now? Or are there still aspects you you want to explore or

Cyndi 41:49
I want to put more education on my education platform. So I have a registered training organisation. And I really want to add more to that, like I’ve really kept it at nutrition. But now I want to really expand with the registered training organisation teaching people, other aspects of, of health and life. So that’s number one, I’m doing that. My farm continues to grow and adapt. Like I do region farming, holistic farming, we’re doing natural sequence farming, we do sin, tropic farming. So that’s been an incredible journey of six years of growing food. Understanding how we do that. So I’m in the middle of building a shed at the moment, which will become an education centre, not only for farming matters, such as all the ones that I’ve just talked about those four aspects of it. So I’m doing that I’m regenerating my riparian area. So I have a waterway, I’m at a watershed. So I’m at the top of the watershed. So anything that comes up my land is as clean and as crystal clear. So I’m cleaning up the riparian area and regenerating that I want to be a matriarch, I want to be a matriarch of my family. I’m got grandbabies. So I’ve got my first one arrived, the fifth of the fifth this year in dramatic style. But that’s another amazing story that I can tell another time. And I have my next one arriving in about six weeks. So to me, this is my life now to look after my family to make sure that they’re safe to leave the world in a better place for them to live in. I do worry that where my my little stage grace will be in when I’m she’s my age and six years. But I’ll just make sure that everything is set up so that when I leave this planet, she knows where to go, I keep I say to her every day, I’m gonna teach gardening and then teach you how to grow food and we’re going to learn how to butcher meat and and we’re going to learn how to go chickens and eggs and and she you know, she has no idea what I’m saying. But I just think these skills that I was taught that you weren’t taught guy that you’ve had to learn now, as parents and I know you’re a parent, as parents, it is the most important thing we do as grandmothers, grandfathers as parents. We have to teach these kids life skills, not maths, maths is important and English is important, but not all the other crap. Like I homeschool my kids, because I couldn’t stand the education rhetoric. It was like back in the 90s I was ready to just slaughter the whole lot of the teachers that you know, this whole thing that’s happening in education, I wanted to educate my kids and teach them you know what was important in life and I got three pretty incredible kids that haven’t gone by the wayside in any way. You know, to having babies The other one’s about to move to Barcelona to be to go to university. Yep, she leaves on the October October 7. So she’s about to go to Barcelona and live her life. She’s single. And I said, I don’t know why you’re staying here, honey, go and go and see the world and go educate yourself and be amongst people that are doing incredible things. And it’s the university she’s going to is. She’s very excited. Yeah.

Guy 45:23
Yeah. How brilliant are brilliant. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you know, it’s funny, you’d like thinking, like, even now is, I think, 1414 and a half months. And there’s this part of me that’s so grateful that I’ve been on my own journey first before becoming a dad. And I know, it’s hindsight, a wonderful thing. And I’m sure if I had the 10 years ago, you know, it, it would be it is what it is. But there’s just a part of me that’s very grateful to I guess, come to conclusions within my own life first, and be able to do my best to impart that wisdom for her on her own little, little soul journey as she grows anyway. That’s for sure. That awakening is so important. So yeah, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I got one last question for you, Cyndi, before we wrap it up, and I asked everyone this on the show, but essentially, is with everything we’ve covered today. What would you like to leave our listeners to ponder on

Cyndi 46:30
that you are all powerful? That by spending your money within your local community, we can change the world? I guess that that’s a real food. Real Food. But I yeah, I really believe that. You are all powerful. You just have to find your power. And number one, how you spend your money is incredibly powerful.

Guy 47:02
Yeah, totally as I love Bruce Lipton said a quote on my show a couple of months back and and it stuck with me ever since he said knowledge is power. But knowledge of self is self empowerment. And as we get to know ourselves more, I think we can we can start making more conscious choices. Moving forward. Yeah. Yeah, I just want to thank you. It’s not often I get teared up on my show. And, and you’re, you’re an incredible woman. You’re an incredible advocate, and you’re insanely inspiring, and you’re just really an inspiration for me. And I’m just grateful to have studied and gotten to know you, and thank you for coming on my show today. It’s deeply appreciated. And I can tell you now anyone listened to that will be leaving this today feeling inspired. So thank you. Thank you. I feel very honoured to be on your show. Thank you. Thank you, Cyndi.