#153 This week, my amazing guest is Chris Volpe. Chris is an entrepreneur and the chief of Fox wardrobes. He is a truly wonderful embodiment of letting go and allowing for positive energies to flow into life. This positivity is also very noticeable in how he expresses what he does, which is to “create space for what we value.” Chris believes that by creating space for the things we value, and thus organizing them, we in turn allow for joy and positivity to flow into our lives.

During our conversation, Chris tells us about his journey with a Live in Flow retreat, reaching out to his inner child, and his healing process. He also tells us about two times in his life when he was able to face challenges with open arms and a positive mindset and how things would have been much more difficult had he adopted a negative mindset instead.

If you have any doubts about taking the leap and attending a retreat, Chris also has some advice for you. So be sure to tune in and hear him out.

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About Chris: Chris Volpe is a motivated accountant and entrepreneur with experience in business administration, operational systems, business restructuring and insolvency, leadership, and strategy. He is currently based in Byron, Australia and is the chief of Fox Wardrobes.

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Key points with time stamp:

• Chris’s work in his own words (0:03)
• Meeting Chris (1:12)
• Chris’s healing process after attending the Live in Flow retreat (5:53)
• Spiritual healing, with a logical mind (10:39)
• The journey from Sydney to Byron (13:45)
• The story of Chris’s table: living in the flow (20:07)
• The story of holographic kinetic healing and meeting James Pask (24:49)
• Chris’s advice on attending retreats (29:57)
• The importance of letting go (32:23)
• What Chris leaves us with (34:11)

Mentioned in this episode:

• Fox Wardrobes
• The Inner Circle, an entrepreneur group
• James Pask, holographic kinetics teacher and practitioner

Chris Volpe’s Website:
foxwardrobes.com.au

Chris’s LinkedIn:
www.linkedin.com/in/christopher-volpe-183a804b/?originalSubdomain=au

 

About me:

My Instagram:
www.instagram.com/guyhlawrence/?hl=en

My website:
www.guylawrence.com.au
www.liveinflow.co

 

TRANSCRIPT

Guy 00:00
Chris, welcome to the podcast.

Chris 00:02
Thanks for having me,

Guy 00:03
mate. It’s an honor. And it’s even more exciting for me to be doing it in person, because this is a very rare, unique treat, because they’re always over zoom. And for anyone watching on video right now will see a spectacular is even a horse behind. It’s insane. So when we say let’s do it from your home, I was like, Yes, let’s come. So thank you. I really appreciate it. Now. I asked everyone on the show, and I’m gonna ask you the same thing, if we were all at an intimate dinner party right now. And you were sitting next to a complete stranger. And they ask you what you do for a living? What would you say?

Chris 00:39
I would say, I create space for what you value. So we do my companies called Fox wardrobe. Yeah. And we do wardrobe solutions to people’s homes. So storage, but why it’s space for what you value is when you have organized space, and you can put things that are important to you in there. You feel like you have more space in your life to be, you know, have more fun, be joyful, and that sort of thing. So we we say we create space for you. They

Guy 01:12
Yeah, I love it. I love it. And the reason why we here today, and I asked you to come on the show and you’ve kindly kindly accepted is because we synchronistic synchronistically just caught up a few weeks ago, I didn’t realize you’d move back to the Shire. There’d been a lot of change going on within your world. But maybe we should take it up to where I strolled out and bumped into you at the [Inaudible] airport of all places. What would that have been about six weeks ago, two months ago,

Chris 01:42
six weeks ago. So I was there organizing a retreat with a group that I’m in like an entrepreneurs group called the we call the inner circle. Yeah. And I was picking up Pauline Noona, a friend and sort of a coach from the airport Bell and the airport would have been just a random Tuesday and out walk you walk out of the airport? And just I don’t think we’d spoken since the retreat a couple of years ago. Yeah. And to see you, I just had a pretty intense conversation with my wife, Leah. And that were separating. So then,

Guy 02:19
was that the same? Like few days before? A

Chris 02:21
couple of days before? Wow. And

Guy 02:23
just to put in perspective, you came to our live in Flow retreat? I think it was 18 months prior to winter one in August, right.

Chris 02:29
Yeah. And I came with Leah. Yeah. So. So she was my wife at the time. And we were we did the work together at that retreat. And it was, it was life changing. I’ve got to honor what you Matt and Petra do. It’s just amazing. Appreciate it. It’s beautiful. for that moment where I saw you just sort of ignited the whole let go reminder, you know, let go live in flow. This is all happening for a reason. And I even looked up your your retreat website thinking maybe I met guy in that moment to go again, because of so much change, and so much. So many things are happening in my life. But it was fully booked out. And I was like, Oh, no, it’s not meant to be Anyway, it was a good reminder to see you there. A few days later, I met the retreat with Paulina and my inner circle, and I get a phone call from you. And you’re like, do you want to volunteer work it. I was like, Don’t outsource all my IT in a business. I’m not an IT guy. But shit, let’s live in flow, give it a go.

Guy 03:33
And they came with that time, wasn’t it because just to fill everyone in as well. I, myself and Matt were discussing because we knew we had to stream Petra in for the three days from Croatia, we had her it set up from that and, and we were like, We really need somebody. And for one of us, it’s really important, ideally, to have some people that have gone through the process that we work with. So not only are they they’re doing it or working, but they actually really understand and how to hold space and appreciate what everyone’s going through. Yeah, so that was a big thing. And we kept hitting wall after wall. And we had about three different options that were coming to us. And it wasn’t quite sitting right. And this is what it’s all about trust in that stuff. And and then I saw you at the airport that day and you know, give you a hug. It was like crispy. It’s so good to see you, you know and didn’t realize what was all going on in your life so much, you know, and that you’d come back up. And then that night, I think I was just we just put Eva down. I was washing up or something. And I went, Chris, it came into my like, yeah, so then I rang Matt and he’s like, yes, yes, yes. Yeah. So that happened. So maybe then that’s what happened next. You came to obviously,

Chris 04:49
it was beautiful, you guys through that process of being able to be in it. The IT guy for the retreat,

Guy 04:57
which you did phenomenally we did. We didn’t have a button. Like a stream Petra, and it was like she was in the room it was it was insane.

Chris 05:04
I like to have right at the start of the retreat. You said to me, no pressure, but it’s all on you. When coming in, though, like I got to be involved in about half an hour, right, which was just, yeah, I was doing maybe even more I was doing, making sure holding the space for Petra to come in via zoom, but then also being able to be involved. And synchronistically. I needed that, like it was I had a huge heart opening, especially in some of the healing work that we did in day three, day four. And I just, yeah, it was, it was transforming. I really opened I feel so much lighter after the retreat. It was it was, it was perfect is exactly what I needed when I needed it.

Guy 05:53
Yeah. Amazing. And then, and then at the at the same time, like, are you happy to share a little bit about some of the healing for yourself that’s been going on at all? Like, you know, you don’t have to like, tell the whole world even though there’ll be 1000s of people listening to this. No pressure? No, just like a retreat? Yeah. Well,

Chris 06:12
I guess the What’s happened? I guess I can start with my journey since the first time.

Guy 06:19
Sure. Yeah. major

Chris 06:20
trend. So because it’s sort of ties into that. So when I first 18 months ago, when I was at the retreat, Petra guided me into a in a child process. Yeah. And I realized then, that I’d been a show as a kid, I was teased, and I was overweight. And there was a there’s this shame that I held. I was confused about my sexuality. And I had, I had moments of quiet going quite dark. When I was about 12 or 13. At one stage, I was thinking about committing suicide. And so I, I went through a pretty amazing transformation. As I was like, 1516, I sort of I snapped, I really got to a breaking point. And I snapped and I made changes, I started to do more the work you’d call it, but at that stage, it’s more personal development. Now it’s becoming more spiritual, which I love. But at the time, it was more just like self help, how do I get through this quite dark thoughts and being unhappy. And so I did transfer I lost weight, I had friends, I went and I started to succeeded in studies and uni and work. But I never that inner child, part of me, I was ashamed of it. Because I compartmentalize it in some way thinking is overweight, and just, and in dark, and all these things. I sort of just pushed it away. Yeah. And so the work I do with Petra, just actually I connect, I realize just it’s like a cage that part of myself. And I was looking for more joy. And when I came to the retreat, I didn’t realize that at the time. But the the joy had been locked away with that part of myself. So when when I did the work with Petra, and it opened the connection up. I gave I forgave myself, I gave that part of myself and myself and I then we connected I remember just hugging my younger self in the meditation. visually. I was there with myself giving me goosebumps. Yeah, I and I was crying after that experience. It was so emotional. And I must have you guys say something about tears like the it’s a tea frosting.

Guy 08:42
Yeah. Yeah, the emotions, emotions that we’ve been holding on for so long.

Chris 08:46
Yeah. And so I, I had this connection then to myself. So then, fast forward that I started to have more creativity, more joy in my life, because I integrated that part of myself. And then in the this retreat, when I was doing was basically a yoga session led by Petra, I had the same inner child come forward, but this time, we were like best mates. And we were in love and, and we hugged and we’ll play and and we’re dancing, and those environments. And that part of me was coming out. I’m just like, and so the what was so beautiful and there was so much gratitude was that actually how far the relationship would come in 18 months, and how much the that joy and that was being expressed in my mind now. And there was still and I notice I’ve got some challenges with my dad, like, it’s not really talking to me. And there’s these these challenges in that aspect. So when the inner child came forward him in my father who’s like my inner father figure, but it’s actually my father and physical life, I realized that I was shutting him out as well. And then I needed to express love there. And so my, I used to say to my dad, when I was a kid, I love you bigger than the universe, quite a fan when I look at it now, because the universe is love, and it’s expanding. So my inner child said that to my father in this meditation, and so that was me. And I was observing it. And I realized, why the fuck am I blocking him out as well, because him blocking me is just a reflection. So then there was this, there was this sort of integration, and I just burst into tears again, and, and who knows where that’s gonna lead over the next coming months

Guy 10:39
in a moment, right. And it’s incredible, I often think about how much we even as a society, and people are holding on to the traumas, and not healing those aspects of ourselves. And we grow up and we disassociate and disconnected from part of ourselves. And we remain in our heads, and we try to solve problems from our head, and the thinking mind, and we’re not nurturing the connection that’s already there. And it just needs to be brought back and allowed space and an environment to heal, right? And go back,

Chris 11:08
that being like a business owner. And you know, we’ve got a team of 35, there’s people things happening all the time. And I’m often in my logical mind, and I’m up there, and what the work that we’ve done with you, I’ve done with you. And the that I’m doing is, is really getting out of the head and coming into my heart. And so I’ve found since the in the last 18 months, I’ve been able to move here. So I just start with one example that you use or trade around the form. And so there’s a Oh, yeah, is that it’s a fractal, the mile reality is a fractal of what I’m experiencing. And so what I realized was that from the work that we did, when I got out of my head and into my heart, my personal love myself improved, but then the culture in my business improved. So it was like a fractal. So it was like, as I became more whole, and happier, then the business became happier, and more creative and more fun. And so what I realized was, if I just work on myself, everything else starts to reflect that change. And so when I used to be focused all totally on business books, how do I make the best business and efficient and all those systems and stuff, I actually, I still learn that stuff. Now, I still listen to great minds on it. But really, where I’m doing, I’m finding a really big impact is when I do the work on myself. And so I’m coming out of my head for morning practice, cold that we did an ice bath the other way. And so like, the my place here, and so going into that and like getting out of my head and into my body, then has allowed me to show up and be present and in the moment and feel the joy and feel the love and connection rather than banging my head and then trying to logically think about it almost feels like I’m cut off. You know, I’m just not when I’m in my head I’m cut off from my body and from the feeling so that’s been powerful for me who’s right. And and it’s interesting because a lot of people will ask me and I find myself conferences, well, what about my kids, you know, I can’t control my kids and, and, and there’s a fear around that. And it’s the one thing I always say is be the example to say like do the work yourself. You don’t, you can’t put this stuff on anyone else. But yourself and then that ripple effect starts to resonate out. And you can create real change within your community, within your family within your people. Like anyone listening to this right now.

Guy 13:45
If if you’re an influencer if you’re a CEO, if you know you have a business and I think this is the best self development work you can ever ever do. And and those shifts all happen on an unconscious and energetic level. Yeah, the subtle energy systems that are beyond the five senses that we’re so conditioned to Yeah, and it’s amazing the synchronicities it’s amazing the things start to happen in the system. So tell us tech Can you tell us a story about this place that we’re standing in this beautiful place? If you are listening on audio, come over to my YouTube channel and just just check it out quickly.

Chris 14:22
But anyway, so it gets a little woowoo Alright. So since a month like it started to really notice synchronicities I so so I’m separating. So I synchronistically got a beautiful place with Leah in my house a further separation. With we’ve said literally you can stay there and it’s a it’s a beautiful home, she can stay there until she’s you know, ready and because we moved from Sydney to Byron about eight months ago. Yeah. I grew up in the area, but it was like coming home. I lived in Sydney, 15 years plus, so. So I was like, Where am I gonna? I need to find a new place.

Guy 15:09
And let’s put it in perspective, right since lockdown and the cities have been locking on. It’s like every other person wants to come and live in Byron right now. Right? Yeah. And everyone is everyone’s saying

Chris 15:20
everyone’s saying to me that you’re not gonna find a place. It’s so hard to find a place right now everyone’s trying to lock something in so they can get out of the city. And so I said, so Leah said, How are you going to find a place? I said, Oh, look, liko the fear like there’s no fear, I’ll find a place like, I know that if I just let go live in flow. But if I just like go, like it’s sounds, sounds like a advertise.

Guy 15:48
So I just you would definitely live in this world, like

Chris 15:50
get rid of the fear, then there will be no block like, it’ll just happen. So literally, in that moment, we pull open domain, and the first home that was there had been listed three hours before, and I was like, well, three, the number three that’s like the Holy Trinity. Like I’m gonna check this out. So I’ll open it up. And it’s this place. It’s like a resort basically, it’s so it’s insane. But when I got here, it was though. So then it was like it was packed. There was pee heaps of people coming. I applied for a couple of ones just just in case. But they didn’t even respond to me, but this out straightaway, the real estate agent race who’s awesome. He reached out to me and said, Hey, do you want to check it out? And I was like, yeah, it’s New Year’s Eve. So yeah. So we had this conversation a week before New Year’s. And then I saw that I then booked in an appointment on New Year’s Eve to check it. And it was pretty hectic because I was, is leave it like because of the separation. I was like, Am I doing the right thing. So I call I pull a card, I do a reading. And I pulled an animal I connect with nature. So I pulled an animal card, and it was the turtle. And the turtle is water and earth. And it was a good reference point for me cuz although I slow moving, it’s talking about adventure. So I was like, Look, I’m going check the property out. I’m gonna check it because I pulled the turtle card. So it was nice as I drove here came in, there was heap of people checking it out, I decided to go for a walk in the garden first before I go into the house. And I was like, I just want to feel the land. Because going through the separation, I want to be nurtured by the land, but also want to give back to it. And energetically, I just wanted to feel that the space was right there. So I went for a walk around. There’s this olive tree just over there. And it basically I just felt so nurtured when I walked past it. I was like, This is the place like I felt really calm. I came back and the owner was interviewing the owner of the property was interviewing the potential tenants. And so she walked over to me said Why did you go around the garden and I was like, Oh, just because I wanted to feel the the land, I wanted to feel that it’s the right place. Like I love nature and I want to be somewhere that’s gonna nurture me. And straightaway, we just hit it off because she’s like, I wig out. Like they live in Melbourne, they like we want to come back in a few years, once their business is ready. And she’s like basic, well want someone who’s gonna look after the land. And so straightaway, we connected on that. And then I went and check the house, the house is beautiful, totally connected to me. And as I was leaving, I was like, I see you guys thanks for your time, I’m just gonna check out the veggie garden. So I walk up to the veggie garden I go Just give me a sign if this is the place I will go for it and and I’ll lock it in the lace anyway as I’m walking out a walk to the veggie garden and my eyes are drawn to the tap and I looked down and it’s your handle as a turtle and I was like oh man she then the real estate agent said that we’re getting offers a six months rent in advance and but the owners wanted to me to be there and we connected and so and he said I recommended you because I really like yeah, and then boom so we’re signed I literally I moved in on the 11th of Jan The day after our retreat so finished the celebrations whatever more meditation for me because I was on my own this this year and yeah just just basically went straight into the retreat working with you guys which was just so nurturing and healing for me. And then Monday moved into this beautiful new space

Guy 19:37
is incredible right and and it just I can’t take the smile off my face when I hear these stories because that’s the work right there. Like it really isn’t and eliminate, which is so it can be so foreign and I’m sure it’s foreign to many people like we love the idea of doing it but as you embody this work more and I say embody. Oh no We’re still going.

Chris 20:01
Yeah.

Guy 20:07
So as we embody this work more, it becomes a knowing something way beyond any words can speak and reconnect. Right? Yeah. And and there’s, there’s two things I want to tie in as well before we wrap it up. But when can you just tell me because I woke up. I’m running 10 minutes late because I’m helping Linda. Get out in the street. I’m trying to get her to sleep so she can catch up because she was being a baby. I pulled that off, and I’m running 10 minutes late mood like brilliant just in time for a pot of Chai and stuff like that. And I rock up and there’s this beautiful table you have on the veranda. And we sit and drink and chi and just tell me what happened to the table because that’s another example.

Chris 20:47
Also, yesterday, some getting the furniture for the new home. And yesterday, I got off gum tree, a table and chairs. So I went and picked it up. And I’m on my own. So I’m like, how am I going to get this on the you?

Guy 21:00
It’s a big table.

Chris 21:01
It’s big, heavy table, heavy table solid timber. And like, how am I gonna get it off when I get back? I’m like, I’m sure look, I’ll just like something’s gonna work out. Right. So I get there. And luckily, the husband who who’s strong guy, he helped me He’s like, yeah, cool. I hope y’all puts on so I was like, okay, that’s, that’s easy. Like that could happen most of the day. Yeah. Anyway, and I was like, stoked. I got it tied it down. Got back here. And we’re quite remote to you, by the way, super remote like this is 15 acres this property. It’s like there’s not really you can’t really see anyone. So I go I’m in the driveway, which is, you know, 50 meter driveway. And I’m like, shit, how am I going to get this off because I need to get some food for dinner. So I gotta go to the shops. I need to get this table off and it’s looking like it’s gonna rain. I don’t really want it to get wet. Here, I might look something’s gonna work out. So I untied the table. And then just as I’m untiring it the neighbor who drives up like you can’t really even sin drives up the driveway next to us. And I’m like, if it’s meant to be, they’ll stop at the top right near the driveway. Anyway, so I here and driving is Yuda. I don’t know that I’ve never met, you never would have done. This, I don’t like it could be a mile could be a female, I don’t know. But they’re in a year. And so they stop at the top, and they’re just sitting there and I’m like, Fuck, this is a sign I need to get off mass run up there. So I run up to the top of the driveway, and he’s on his phone. And I’m like, oh, mate, he’s named Ben Bo, I’d much gratitude to them. He was like, mate, I like can you help me? He’s like, what the hell? Okay, and then so he comes out, it’s getting dark. I’m like, it could be a bit creepy coming down. Anyway, so he comes helps me Take off the table, not only just take it off for you walks it to my back, and he puts it down. So it’s ready to go. So guy gets here The next morning, and we’re just perfectly. And yeah, just like to me that this just so I just had this moment of just certainty around spirit and like being supported, and nurtured Yes. Who draw at that exact moment when I needed it. There was someone there to lend a helping hand?

Guy 23:20
How would the old self have tackled that whole dynamic,

Chris 23:24
the old self would be like, he’s not gonna be anyone, Fifi, and it’s like, how am I going to do it on my own, I need to organize it and control it and make sure that there’s someone that’s going to be there, because what if then it rains, and then it’s gonna get damaged. And it wouldn’t just delay the whole process of getting the table. But now I’ve got the table, my house, I basically don’t need any furniture now, because the whole thing has happened in one week of everything that I’ve needed. Yeah. And I

Guy 23:50
wanted to highlight that story as well. Because I often think for all of us, you know, every day, there are opportunities that are just sitting beyond our peripheral vision, that but we are so accustomed to doing the routines to do in the way we do things to have in everything in order to feel in control, and feel safer to get that safety from not controlling nature, that we actually deny ourselves so much joy half the time and random meetings and conversations and things and and, and we wonder why we get we hold on to it and get so stuck with it or like where where the joy can be had any single time. Yeah, we just got to give ourselves permission to like so what did rain or you couldn’t get off? Like, what is the magnitude of the day? It does have a

Chris 24:36
funny story.

Guy 24:37
Exactly. Exactly. Who knows where that will take us mate. There’s one other full circle story you got to share with us. Yeah. And that was I think was it was his name, James. James?

Chris 24:50
Powerful. So after the retreat that how I connected with my inner child. So I’ve been doing the work like after that. It’s not like he just goes Home and everything should happen. When the challenge comes up, we need to face the wall of fear Go for it. So I basically came back, I’m doing the work I’m doing my daily routines and stuff starting to happen, things are falling into place. Anyway, I decided so since then, I now run my business remotely from Byron hinterland. So awesome business is going better fractal the cultures better. The business went from losses to profitability, things are just falling into place. And so and I come here, I moved to buyer and pulling you in who’s like a bit of a coach, mentor them in the group with an entrepreneur group. She goes, look, there’s a really amazing guy called James pask. And he does holographic kinetics, which is sort of like, and it works with energy and time and stuff to heal. Anyway, I was like, Oh, you know, I’m all good. Oh, I got heaps of stuff to do.

Guy 25:59
and Byron’s full of healers. It’s

Chris 26:03
like, I’m cool. This is another month later, someone else’s it to me. So Emma from the group, she’s like, Good try. This is James pask. He’s

Guy 26:12
amazing. James. James pask [inaudible]. I’m gonna try it myself.

Chris 26:17
And so amazing guy, really caring. benevolent, you know, no agenda just wants to help. Anyway. So I like it. The second call off and I’m like, hang on a minute, like, am I listening here? Something’s going on. So I reached out to Pauline, I said, Look, can you just give me his details? Like, I think it’s worth me. Like contacting him. It’s it’s feeling right now. Because sometimes, like timing needs to be right as well. Like, sometimes the everything’s happening at the right time. So I get this, I get the phone number. I call him I book in a session, and he goes, I’ll text you my address. I’m like, okay, so he texts the address. And I fell off my seat. It was my old when I was in touch my mom’s home. The home I grew up in, when I went through the divorce, like my parents divorce and the child whities, and it was the it was the fucking home that I grew up in. And my mom still owns it. She’s renting it to James James did. I had the healing in my bedroom. Like, what the fuck? I was like, that is full circle. And if there’s no sign from the universe, that there’s no, like, there’s someone there looking out for us. Like that’s a sign so I had the healing session and literally the whole thing…

Guy 27:42
just what was it like to walk back in like that after knowing a feeling of everything you’ve been through and what you’ve done to walk in there to receive a healing in your own bedroom. I

Chris 27:52
hadn’t been there for over 10 years. And it was like I’d done a lot of work around it. So I actually I didn’t always impartial we didn’t have much. I didn’t have negative motion. I actually had a bit of joy. Yeah, I had awesome memories of growing up in ocean show, okay, on the beach mom and stuff. But there was this, you know, when it just dropped like the trust and faith it just drops and I’m just in my heart and I’m like, it felt so synchronistic It felt so guided and it just being able to to be in that space to go for the healing was transformative. Yeah. And so that’s where the swift flow that was just the example of once a May and I was like, Man, this work is the shit this is where it’s so and then we literally worked for that stuff and and he’s an amazing that is very connected to nature. And I came out of it. I felt a lot lighter I felt to me it’s like an ongoing process to do this work because it’s continually refreshing and absolutely hearing those energies and

Guy 29:06
a new new now have a practice right you you it’s not like you just it’s not like it’s all just landed for you. You’re consistently working on it and working with it. Right? Yeah, it’s not like

Chris 29:16
yeah, every day I do some like I do a video…meditation like, I do more now because the more I’m getting more into it more excited. Yeah. But at the start like it builds up so am I done half an hour and then a dead so good. Our practice? seeks every morning. Yeah. Yeah, it’s for you do the work. Yeah. And it’s giving myself permission to put myself first and so like, when I do the work in the morning, it’s like, I can’t come I can show up for my team. I can show up for the things that are important because I’m doing I’m giving myself a moment of joy and connection and body awareness to start the day. Yeah, and I find that just so critical.

Guy 29:57
Amazing. I just love that. Stories assistant phenomenal. And and, you know, I there’ll be people listening to this right now that are sitting on the fence we got a retreat coming up in March, right. Yeah. And I’m we hold them throughout the year. So if you’re listening to optimize, you just need to come but and I know they’ll be sitting on the fence there’ll be there’ll be in trepidation fear, there’s an unknown, we don’t tell people what the itinerary is either. And we purposely do that, because we want you to let go, like, you gotta let go at some level. It’s not like we get your bungee jumping. But if, if they listen to this right now, and knowing what you know, and what you’ve been through, and you can, you know, 1,000% relate to things that they might not have healed in their lives yet, they might not even be aware, they’re just aware that something needs to shift, but they don’t they can’t even put a word to it yet, because we’re always in the mind. What would you say to them? What would you say? How would you speak to that?

Chris 30:56
I would say that, sort of, listen to your heart. If you if you’re feeling that, if you’re getting the signs, and it’s coming up, just have it just do it. Because it’s in unknown that the amazing stuff to happen, when, when we’re just doing the same routine every day. We’re just gonna play it out. Like it’ll just keep happening. And it’s like, there’s so much I’ll want to say to that. I just, I just, I just think it’s so it’s been so valuable for me. Yeah, my personal experience is that when I went to the first one, it was like, I got an upgrade. I went from Chris, the 20. Windows, that’s right, 2010 to 2020. And now I feel like I’m got I went just even volunteering, but thing half, like, in the energy upgraded again. So I almost feel like, at some level, we were all inflammation and vibration and stuff. And we can kind of get stuck in an old habit. And this is the way to just move forward further. And I would just say, whatever you spend on yourself on personal growth, I actually think their retreats, cheap, it’s to them, there’s so much value that you’re giving, that if if I believe that what you spend on yourself comes back to you. And it’s an investment in yourself.

Guy 32:23
There’s no accident, you’re living in this house in this beautiful paradise and, and what you’ve created with your business and everything like you’re such a heart centered, grounded, incredible human being. But nobody else is actually seeing the other side of what you’ve created in your life to be in this position today. Yeah. And the people that listened to that are restricted that always counting every single penny and always worried you get what you give. Yeah, yes, it’s true. But it’s such a hard concept to, to overcome, actually, it’s,

Chris 32:53
it’s almost like the let go thing that also applies to money. I feel like if it’s in us if it’s in a pool, and it’s like we’ve got a dam and a strain here, like I always use nature, isn’t it? Yeah. So there’s a dam and it’s gone a bit stagnant. And so the the water gets a bit stale, and you don’t want to swim in it. But there’s this stream and the water’s running. And it’s spring fed, and it’s coming, it’s clean, I’ll just swimming. It’s beautiful. And so I look at it was saying with money, it’s like energy, if it caught it, and you keep it there. And this is an example not just to invest in, right, but in everything. And yeah, it’s like if we hold on to the the money, and then we don’t want to let any go. What I’ve found in my life is it gets stale. Whereas if you invest in yourself or you do things that bring you joy, there’s that constant movement, and money comes in to fill the space where money left. And it’s the same bank is when I moved for when I moved from Sydney to here, I created some space. And now this beautiful experiences come up like that letting go process there’s so many layers to that, really letting go of things is so important to them move to the next thing, or to have something fresh and joyful come into the car fully.

Guy 34:13
I remember many years ago, I can’t remember who said they were reading but to bless. So every time there was a money exchange, no matter how small or big or even if it was a bill or someone else didn’t want to let go up because how dare they charge me for that or this and that? Yeah, I would just bless it. Yeah. And you know, and it’s extremely powerful. And it just allows you to, to feel into that connection, feeling that flow. You know, moving forward, mate, I got one last question for you. Yeah, with everything we’ve covered today. Is there anything you would like to leave our listeners to ponder on

Chris 34:48
so many things I would say the power of finding and living joy like high vibration emotions. So for me If I’m in a low vibration, then I the same low things keep coming that way as I move into a higher vibration, so say I’m feeling joy, I’m feeling love, I’m feeling gratitude. So if something like you just said, when I give money, I bless it, you go from gun, oh, I don’t want to give it and feeling loss, that’s low vibration, so you get more loss. But if you bless it, and you’re like, thank you, thank you for this beautiful table, thank you for this beautiful home, thank you for this space, all of a sudden, like I’m feeling it now. Like I’m feeling joy, and gratitude. And then the joy and gratitude then manifests more of that joy and gratitude. And that’s what comes. And so gratefulness, joy, feeling those emotions, and having a practice that brings those two and giving yourself permission to feel those. I would say just lean into that. Because you will notice the changes in your life, the things that start coming in the speed that they start coming. When you’re in a joyful vibration when you’re in fun when you’re having fun and playing like childlike sense of wonder, like just being at the retreat, just dancing, having fun, and like we all get into it. It’s like, dancing isn’t a pot, like not necessarily

Guy 36:18
No, no, but it was just a spontaneous moment.

Chris 36:20
moment. And that that feeling of joy. That’s what brings this style. And it’s not so much this home is so beautiful, but it’s the feelings I get thing here. Yeah, that make it so valuable. Yeah, it’s not the possession. It’s the feeling, and the feeling of joy of being able to have a swim and just feeling the water being present. That’s what the work you guys are doing. dropping into the body feel like being able to enjoy life? Totally. That’s the message. Oh,

Guy 36:49
yeah. Beautiful. Thank you. And, and, you know, I just want to reiterate for people, because there’s a reason why I sold out of my last company, it was doing pretty well, you know, we I was in a good place. And but it wasn’t giving me that feeling that joy anymore. And I knew that this work existed and I knew I could help people and I knew I could I had the skills to be able to show people another way and get it out there at the same time. And I just want to put that into people’s perspective. So I walked away from everything that I knew to let go to allow this to come into my life more. And from that place and being able to serve others and help others show them the way because I have no magic pill. None of us, to me matter, Patrick or anyone that comes into this. But we know how to hold space and we know how to show people what it is to help them see within themselves and give them a good blood kickstart Yeah, into this into this new world. And, and if it works, it works. It works. Mate. I love you, brother. Give me a hug. Thank you so much for coming on the show.

Chris 37:53
Thank you. Thanks.

Guy 37:54
Thank you. Thank you