#184 The current situation in the world has not been easy on anyone, and Matt and I definitely feel some of the mental strain of it. In our episode today, we try to give some practical tips that can help you navigate through the chaos and hopefully get you to live a life that is more aligned with your goals and spirit. During our conversation, we talk about self empowering decisions, regular practice, creating connection detaching from emotions, meditation, and getting back into nature.

So if you have felt a bit out of the loop because of all the chaos in the world right now, then this is the episode for you.

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About Matt: Matt Omo is a leader of the sound healing movement in Australia with over 15 years of experience working with a variety of sound healing techniques bridging cultures and traditions from around the world. The work and awareness around sound healing and its benefits are growing every day. Matt is developing new programs and products to meet this need and continue to support people in discovering the benefits of the healing power of sound.

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Key points with time stamp:

• 13 Things to Stay Sane in Chaos (00:00)
• Are you suppressing certain emotions? (04:52)
• What do you do after you acknowledge surpassed emotions? (08:13)
• Find stillness (10:42)
• You are not your emotions and thoughts (13:20)
• Get back into nature (16:40)
• Living in constant states of fight or flight (19:57)
• How to not get stuck in a fear cycle (23:37)
• The importance of community in our overall health (26:47)
• Why is resting critical? (29:38)
• Diet: Not really what you think (30:33)
• Awareness, acceptance, intention, and inspired action (34:34)

Mentioned in this episode:

• Joe Rogan
• Deepak Chopra
• Dr. Jeffery Thompson

Matt’s Website:
omosoundjourneys.com

 

About me:

My Instagram:
www.instagram.com/guyhlawrence/?hl=en

My website:
www.guylawrence.com.au
www.liveinflow.co

 

TRANSCRIPT

Guy 0:01
All right, it’s official. We’ve decided to an emergency podcast we make it happen. We riffing as we go in. But we felt like we needed to put something out there into the world to support everyone right this time Now, remember listening to the Joe Rogan podcast and I think they choppered someone in, they flew him in they got him there. They got him in person. We haven’t quite got the helicopter infamous tomato. But we’ve we’ve sent him down next to his Gong in his hat. Are you matt?

Matt 0:27
Yeah, good. I’ve got I’ve got the gong hanging over my shoulder. I’ve got I got a stick of Palo Santo just to smoke it if I get really stressed out. Oh, here we go. I know, I

Guy 0:39
think I kicked off the podcast in a bad way. Because I’ve spent the last three and a half hours trying to get Eva to sleep. And I’ve been pacing the streets I got rained on, she wouldn’t go down. So I carried her in the rain, and she was loving it. And then she was kicking me. And then I finally thought I was getting it down. Then she kicked off again. So I’ve done zero preparation of ponder off to my wife, Linda, they’re out of the house. So we’re like, let’s roll. So what are we talking about?

Matt 1:07
That’s it, we’re really walking the talk, aren’t we? Yeah, for sure. Well, I think I think it’s important. And we just sat here for the last five minutes. And we’ve got, you know, we said, let’s talk about five things that we do to keep balance and harmony in this in this stressful time in this chaotic time. And we’ve got a list of 13 things here.

Guy 1:30
On the record, we could double it. So have you got the next three hours. So people wherever you’re listening to this, let’s

Matt 1:36
let’s it your whole series.

Guy 1:39
So in no particular order, we were just riffing ideas, and we just thought, let’s start talking about them, because I’m sure it will unearth some gold and hopefully inspire you listening to this help you and, and, obviously, there’s so many things we could be covering. And what we do this is just as this is just what we are kind of on the forefront of our minds. Because, like it or not, we’re all we’re all in this soup right now that’s happening right around the world of chaos. And, yeah, so let’s, let’s crack on, shall we?

Matt 2:10
Yeah, yeah, let’s do it. Oh, wait, just just as you’re talking, I just, I just feeling stuff coming up. And I think that feeling is is probably a good place to start. Because there’s a lot of, well, I’ve just observed within myself, especially a lot of emotional stuff coming up, I think I’ve hit the, the gamut of different emotions over the last two months, highs and lows and ups and downs, and reactiveness, and so forth, and so on. And I think for me, if I don’t have a way and outlet for the emotion, to move to express itself, then it just compounds things, and it’s like, then I can’t really think straight, I feel compressed in my body. I’m not making the right decisions. I’m, you know, reacting to people and things out of, you know, out of context. And it’s just, everything just blows up. So it’s like, first and foremost for me is, is finding outlets for expression. And I mean, look, that’s what I do for a career. It’s no accident that I make noise for a living. That’s true. Right? So I think you know, and for me that that is that is an expression, that is the way to get emotions out. And that actually the sounds of vibrations and create a momentum, a vibration within me that then creates a an opening and it starts to release because it’s a it’s a contraction down. And I think, you know, especially now like this is what happens is that we get into this fear response, we get into a place where the stress hits us and the initial reaction of fear. If you if you just sit with like, how does my body receive fear? and 90% of the times when I ask people that they say there’s there’s a contraction is a contraction in me there’s a closing down, there’s a there’s a clamping there’s a holding, and that is already causing more stress. Because life in essence just wants to flow it wants to move, it’s a vibration and you know, you’ve got so many people on your podcast that that talk to this concept that you know there’s this movement, there’s this flow there is this frequencies and vibrations and everything that’s moving through us, I mean, look at our breath, it’s breathing, you try and hold your breath. And you’re going to create some stress in yourself right? So the same thing is true when we get into fear is that collapsing down that contraction that happens is basically anti evolution. It’s it’s against the flow of evolution. And so it’s like, you know, allowing that to to reveal itself. And but you use

Guy 4:52
the rabbit hole because you said no. Let’s just touch on each one and blown it wide open. There we go. Okay, stop. I’ll stop there. No, no, but the thing is, right, which is, which is of course spot on. But the reality is, is an Eve is my greatest teacher, I always say this right now because I watch her express her emotions constantly, you know, saying, I’m the last one to squash them, I just let it go, you know, and she works through and then she comes out to the side. Next thing you know, she’s smiling again, you know what I mean? If we just leave a go through that, and I think well, what if we all did that, as adults? Can you imagine what would be like walking around, as opposed to but wouldn’t it be fair to say, though, like, what we’ve seen now, with so many people, and even though my own journey, that we are really good at suppressing the emotions, but once we suppress them, we’re not even aware they suppressed because we are so disconnected from ourselves and from our bodies. And from its innate wisdom, we’re not even aware in the first place that we’re actually suppressing the emotions. And it’s like shaking a Pepsi can. And you just continually shaking is bubbling, bubbling, bubbling, bubbling. And it feels like the world has come along and just like pop the cork for you at the moment, and everything’s coming up. So it’s like, then what do we do? Because Because right now, that is now my reality, because I am seeing through the lens of the suppressed emotions that I’ve never dealt with my entire life, and I am getting a mirror held up into my face. And it’s like, Hey, you got to start looking. And it’s painful as binary.

Matt 6:24
Well, it especially when you’re running into other shakin cans, spewing all over everything, right.

Guy 6:32
Totally, totally. Right. So so we have an a perceived. So every single individual human being, is seeing the situation from a different lens point, including ourselves right now based upon our life and our past experiences and our innate wisdom, or our lack of wisdom, depending on where we’re at, to be there. I mean, the thing is, we got the gift of age as well, not that I’m, you know, you’re looking at me, you think God, you’re 22 guy, but you know, yes, I’m late 40s. But, but the point is, like, there’s a lot of life allowed us to have wisdom as well, and experiences that haven’t come up for a lot of people that are living through these times, or traumas for the first time, as well.

Matt 7:23
Yeah, 100%. And I think the work that we do is well, you know, we not only do we work our process and, and heal the past experiences, that we’ve had the traumatic things that were unresolved. And it’s like, you know, like you say, that takes the pressure out of that shocking, Pepsi, Canada, cocaine, whatever. And, you know, over time, we practice that, but we also get the witness people, through the retreats, through the workshops, through the online stuff that we do, to witness their release for their trauma, and then how that impacts their relationships in their lives and their ability to make more inspired choices and actions. It’s incredible. So the practices that how do you how do we do that? That’s that’s what really an entire list, isn’t it?

Guy 8:13
It is where I don’t know if we’re gonna get to all these points, but it literally down to what we’re what’s the next logical point? from becoming aware of our emotions in the first place? I think that’s how we started it. Was it becoming aware of the emotions?

Matt 8:27
That sounds about right, yeah. Yeah. So well, then it’s the expression of them, I think. So if you have an awareness of it, it’s one thing to have that awareness, where am I contracting down? Where am I holding? What needs to be expressed? What is that emotion? And then, you know, that’s, that’s where the meditation comes in, isn’t it? It’s, it’s a, it’s a mindfulness practice. It’s a, it’s a pausing, it’s hitting the stop button on that perpetual thought that perpetual reactiveness, to whatever’s there within you, mental stuff, emotional stuff, even the physical stuff. You know, that’s what you’re sitting in. And then, you know, as you get more versed on this, it’s the energetic stuff, the, the, you know, the spiritual, if you will, and that you start, oh, look, there’s that word. But it’s building that relationship, because we have, we have really strong relationship with our bodies, to an extent where we numb them down, but we know that we’re in our body, and we identify with that we identify with our emotions, and moreso our thoughts in our society. So body and thoughts are pretty present. But spirit we don’t really identify with but it’s a huge part of who we are. And so building that relationship helps to build the awareness to it. And so those four components, the body, the mind, the emotion and the spirit, when we start to sit in meditation, on a daily basis, at least, you know, maybe two or three times a day and in a time like this To just pause and take inventory and say, well, where am I holding? Where is there an imbalance in that awareness is 95% of it then oh, I’m holding emotion that I’m not dealing with them I’m there’s these thoughts that are perpetuating this upheaval this, this unsettledness this stress, there’s a tension in my shoulder and my neck from working on the computer and watching all the videos you know, that my visions go, you know, all these physical things that are in the out of balance that we don’t attend to that will then snowball. I think you talk about this, you know, it’s like, this is this is critical that if we don’t pay attention, is the feather that what is your, you’re saying?

Guy 10:42
From Cohen way, it’s the it’s the brick, with a Mack truck, you know, we we live we live our lives a certain way. And quite often when we maybe have a little bit of stillness or something if we’re not busily distracting ourselves and staying in, in the stress response, that we end up like feeling a feather tickling on our cheek, it’s almost like there’s a message there’s this some intuitive knowing that, hey, maybe I should be looking over here. Maybe someone in my life is not quite right right now. And but we quite often because it’s only a feather or not nothing. Driving hard, we continue to ignore that. Right? And we got Yeah, just fob it off. Because we’ve got all our conditioning, our beliefs, our culture, everything. Our upbringing is all in a way intertwined. And we’ve bloody forget who we really are, you know. And then, of course, little bit later, we start getting rocks chapter ahead. And you know, reality starts to get harder for us in this like, Hey, are you listening? Are you looking over you? What is your soul’s expression wanting to come through? Or are you continue to ignore that too, and this normally fear, and we live in from that place, that we suppress that too. And of course, a Mack truck will come along and pull you right over one day, the say, No, you’re listening now, you know, which is, which is a scary thing. And I know, we’ve had a few Mack trucks in our own lives along the way, right? And, and it makes us pay attention. And this starts to make us look and see look inward and start to reveal aspects of ourselves, we never even knew were there in the first place for if it wasn’t for the, I guess the the pressure of the outside external world forcing us to start to look within, then we wouldn’t have revealed that diamond that was buried under the whole amount of coal in the first place. And from that, we can see a new aspect of ourselves that was never there before or was always there. But we just didn’t know it was there. And then we started to live life from that vantage point. And we get a new perspective and a new meaning. And we start to see things through the different lens for the one that we were seeing it through. So it’s, it’s really important and and I feel that we are encouraged to suppress those in society, in Western society in general, to be honest, you, you know, and absolutely goes from there. Yeah, yeah,

Matt 13:03
that’s why I feel that a regular practices is critical is because in that regular practice, then I start to build a sensitivity and awareness to the subtleties. And when I can manage the subtleties I don’t get hit by a Mack truck as frequently, you know.

Guy 13:20
So actly Yeah. But we forget, we forget, we’ve like, because we saw automated, our life is so regimented, quite often we forget that we are greater than our thoughts we forget, we are greater than our emotions, we are not necessarily them. And I always see ourselves now as we are like, we’ve got this, this mammal this meatsuit that we get to, to jump in, and grace the earth, hopefully for you know, 80 to 100 years and, and have this experience called life. But there’s, there’s an element that’s beyond that of us. And it’s like building that relationship to that larger aspect of ourselves. And being able to rise above and see from a different vantage point, and our emotions, and our feelings and our thought, and even to an extent our unconscious actions. And we’re able to work with this amazing incredible mammal, and start to help retrain it and recondition it to to work to support you long term, as opposed to just being like this wild animal that’s never been trained to support in some some aspects our entire life. And as we develop that rate relationship, it allows us then to not suppress our emotions or feelings, but to become much more aware of them, like you say the subtleties of the things that are going on and work with it as opposed to just distracting ourselves, medicating ourselves or watching TV and never wanting to face Something and continue to suppress it for another five years because we’ve been doing that already. And it just feels too great. Yeah, absolutely. So, yeah, we’ve gone way off on a tangent, but this is good stuff. Let’s keep rolling.

Matt 15:16
I think like what you say there about that we’re not the emotions, we’re not the body. We’re not the, the mind. And Deepak Chopra says something like, you know, if you can, if you can observe your thoughts, you can observe your emotions, you can observe your body, then you aren’t those things, because there’s an observation behind that, right? So that is the real you is that observer. Right? And so it, it seems like to me to get to that observer is critical, and not be a meshed in the meat suit, and learn how to take command of it, as you were mentioning, and so I mean, back to the list, just get it. You want to wait, maybe just we’ve covered a few of them actually. Okay. Self empowering decisions. regular practice creating connection detaching from emotions, moving from reaction to observation. Meditation getting into nature, that’s a big one. I am. Yeah, really, that’s critical for me to, to move over into nature and not be so confined by the digital world and all that stuff. So

Guy 16:40
yeah, no massive, takes me back to just the podcast that I just released this week with Dr. Jeffrey Thompson. And, and you know, it, and you speak about it, you know, there’s in nature, there’s a harmonious, harmonious rhythm. There’s, there’s like a natural orders and natural coherence. And our body is energetic and physical. So there’s a natural order and coherence within our bodies. But because of the nervous system, and the homeostasis and the way we interpret the world we are and we have created in coherence, we were creating disorder within our body, and our nervous system can kind of get locked in place, right? So which then of course, puts us in fight or flight, which is then shutting down all the systems of the body because they’ve been prepared to fight. Now, I know this is a long winded answer about nature, but it’s so important, like, you know, even Bruce Lipton, we got, we got the whole message in the mainstream media right now. Right? There is zero, nothing to do about how we can support our stress how we can support our fear, how we can support our immune system, what we can do to be making better health choices, nothing and it all feels disempowering. But when when we’re willing to get into the root of the stress levels, and the fears start to work with our for me, nature is so important to do that, because if you spend enough time in nature, your body will start to find this natural harmony and rhythm and become coherent in with the natural surroundings around you. That how healing is that?

Matt 18:26
One, it’s all 100%. And you know, did you know that the the actual nature sounds like you hear those like relaxing tracks of music, meditative music, like the waves crashing, or the wind blowing, or, like, there’s actually science to support that how that impacts your nervous system. And that those natural rhythms of the waves of the wind of the you know, the movement of trees, the birds chirping, all these things actually elicit a relaxed response in the nervous system to help you de stress and open into that rest and digest place. So you’re out of the fight or flight, and you’re dropping into a place where you can repair you can boost your immunity, you can you know, all these things that we’re striving to do with chemicals, so forth, you know, and, and distractions are right there at our front door. You know, and it’s even even just imagining that if you just sit in meditation, like you might be, you know, locked in an apartment or somewhere where there’s not access to a lot of nature. But just the imagining of nature and pretending within yourself that you’re sitting on a beach and hearing those waves crash, and that elicits a certain response within your nervous system. It’s like we have this power that we forget about

Guy 19:44
totally. And wouldn’t you rather condition the body and wanted to get addicted to that?

Matt 19:51
Exactly, yeah. right but yet be a happy addict instead of a stress addict.

Guy 19:57
Totally. And that’s not to say I’m going into denial and just pretending that what’s going on in the outside world is not happening. We’re very aware of it. That’s why we’re doing podcasts like this. And we really feel regret, you’re contributing in our unique ways so that we can support other people and help people along as well coming from a place of heart, compassion and kindness. But I also believe that if you’re in a fearful stress response, you’re going to be making decisions and actions and seeing the world in a way that you’re probably going to regret looking back up from five years from now, 10 years from now, because you were in that state at the time, like, how many decisions have we made in our life, or spontaneous anger from from all these places where we look back in hindsight and go, Oh, shit, maybe I shouldn’t have done it that way. Or maybe I shouldn’t have done it this way. Because that wasn’t me at the time. So if we’re in this constant place of fear, fight or flight, we’re not serving anyone, we’re not serving our fellow neighbour, we’re not serving our family, we’re not serving the people that we care about. So by actually becoming a bit of a happy addict, and like, I’ve got a fourth built around, you know, my family mate, like, emotionally, like, it’s like, I am very conscious of what I mean, things slip through, don’t get me wrong, and it’s like, you know, let’s, let’s sort this out. But if I am nurturing and looking after that environment, and myself, I can then be the best person possible to serve outside of this as well moving forward and be and not getting caught up in the, I guess the the pandemonium and Panic of what’s going on in that world and actually try and see it from a clear lens, not from a fear lens. And that’s very, very different place to be. And for me, that’s really important. And sadly, we get a narrative that’s consistently keeping us in fear. And if we stay in fear, are we actually seeing proof?

Matt 21:53
Yeah, no, I love what you said there that you see through a lens of fear, or a lens, it’s clear, right? And you can’t have both at the same time. Now, I think that’s important to to identify, because that’s two things happen when we get to that reactive state is that our, you know, the prefrontal cortex shuts down. And so your ability to think logically, is gone. So you can’t think logically, when you’re in a reactive state, and then the emotion that you’re feeling, you can’t be fearful, angry, or stressed. At the same time, was feeling loving, kind, compassion. Like, they can’t coexist, you got it, you got to switch. And so when I that’s like, a red red flag to me, whenever I feel myself contracting down in fear in reaction that I’m like, whoa, I’m not thinking clearly. And I’m not expressing the emotions that I want to perpetuate in my life, which then you know, impact the decisions choices, like you said, it’s like, so how do I then drop in and nature, meditation, all these things are talking about even the breath like, you know, you’ve got what do you have like three or four different podcasts? Maybe not more now? Yeah. More in just in breathing, you know, it’s like, and this is one of the critical things and meditation and yoga and you hear it through a lot of the, you know, mystical work and stuff is like, is breath work, and we just lost the plot when it comes to breathing. And we think, Oh, yeah, well, we just breathe in, breathe deeper and relax you it’s like, there’s such a wealth of benefit to the nose, breathe into the slow breathe into this deep, relaxing the nervous system because of that. health reasons. You know, it goes on and on, doesn’t it?

Guy 23:37
Yeah, absolutely. And you know, what’s coming, what’s ringing true with all these things that we’re talking about? Right? It gives us a sense of empowerment, it gives us the sense of I am taking control back and command of my life. And my my sovereign being like, the thing is, is that like right now, because everything is so uncertain, if we shoot ahead too far, every overwhelm can happen very quickly, very quickly. And then we get the sense of losing control. And from the centre losing control, it just feeds the anxiety and it feeds the fear. And then we start going, we just get stuck in these cycles that are perpetuating that continue to keep moving. That fee cycle forward. But the very things that we are speaking about right now are allowing us to just go hang on a sec, whoa, easy tiger. Let me just stop. And then we started to come back to this tool starting to reconnect to this starting to retrain the nervous system starting to retrain the body and over time, we will start to then shift the very lens that we see our reality from and then what is where the magic starts to happen, and is that we then start to not want for the external things to start to fulfil An internal need that was, we were looking all along, we just been looking in the wrong place. Because as we start to feel more fulfilled from the inside out, we start wanting less from the external. And coming from this place of lack or emptiness or striving for something we don’t even know what we’re striving for, to start to feel fulfilled now start to feel more peace now start to feel happier now, and is not a great place to be living from. But we have to have we got these tools. And we’ve got the ability to start making decisions that serve us here. In this moment right now, regardless of what’s going on in the outside world.

Matt 25:44
Yeah, I think that’s critical. We we tend to live backwards in life in that we look at the external than what the external to change so that we can feel better instead of feeling better. And then from that better feeling within ourselves that we’ve nurtured in practice, then we see the world differently and committed differently. It’s the it’s the how, in, you know, in shamanic work, it’s the hummingbird energy, it’s the stillness in motion. Right? And so can we can we become that stillness that we’re craving for that peace, that harmony, that love that we’re craving for in the world? That is not meeting us there? Because we haven’t met ourselves there. Yeah, and then nurture that. And then ultimately, that, then we will see in the world, and then we will expand upon that.

Guy 26:37
Yeah, absolutely. Wow. Okay, well, points. We got, we still, I don’t know how many we covered. But we still got quite a few left.

Matt 26:47
I don’t know, I think I got sidetracked on the number six there with nature. And then we’ve got community like, that’s, that’s like, I wouldn’t be here, if it wasn’t for the community that I have around me, you know, working with you and Petra, and then having people in my lives that are aware of this kind of work, and can keep me accountable. The coaching programme that we have, like, you know, we obviously facilitate that, but it’s, it’s beneficial for us to show up on a regular basis, and to be immersed in that with everyone else. Yeah. And, you know, that it’s, it’s critical. This is I think, one of the things that’s really frustrating to me in all of this is how that mainstream narrative has created this divide in this separation between people, because at the basis of who we are, is that need for connection and community, and that it’s a natural thing. In a stress response, I mean, you, you see it just all the time is that you don’t see somebody fall and hurt themselves, and then be like, Oh, just gonna leave them there. It’s like your unit, you want to reach out to them. And that’s human nature. And so when we see that, that’s not happening in a crisis like this, on a large scale, you know, it is in ways obviously, but there’s, there’s lots of divide, it’s been perpetuated through our reactions through the narrative through whatever, then that’s innately not who we are, we’re going against ourselves, and that’s creating inner conflict that is, is very challenging to resolve. So finding those places where we can nurture that community, and that connection with ourselves, our true selves and others, then actually feeds that innate ability within us to survive. It’s a survival mechanism that reaching out and connecting and community that’s how we survived as a species, you know, we, we don’t have the biggest teeth of the sharpest cause at all that we’re not the fastest animal but we can come together and work together to create something greater than a lot of other species can do. And that’s how we survive. So it’s critical.

Guy 29:06
Yeah, it’s huge. It’s huge. We’ve got creating space which rich I mean, we’ve kind of touched on it, but but

Matt 29:18
I think we have it’s the unpacking and the stopping the pausing. Okay. Yeah,

Guy 29:23
yeah. If we if we don’t have time to just be or start a witness who we being how do we ever expect to change anything? Hmm, you know, and spaces are nurturing.

Matt 29:38
Yeah, nurturing and care and kindness kind of just all fell out together. Oh, oh, not here. I think all those those last three, nurturing yourself taking, you know, doing the things that you need to do to find that, that stillness, that peace, that ability to rest. I mean, there’s there’s a lot that’s going on. That requires downtime requires time for integration, introspection. You know, it’s no accident that we sleep for half, you know, a third of our lives. It’s it’s required to be healthy is rest, and recuperation. That’s where all the actual growth happens is, you know, we get pushed, and we stress the system and we go beyond our comfort zone. But then we’ve got to drop in and let it integrate, let it digest before we then push on.

Guy 30:33
Really cool. Totally. We got a lead number 12, to last prayer to put number 13 and 12, which is we got diet question, mark written in there as well.

Matt 30:47
The question of art, because if people hear the word diet, they’re like, Oh, I should just cut back on the carbs, right, got to cut

Guy 30:54
back on the calories. You know, this is a gap here isn’t is massive. And it’s such a volatile topic. It’s as volatile as some of the other topics that have been talked about out there at the moment. We, you know, we defend the right. And, you know, it’s just interesting, I just want to, I just want to touch on this, because working in the health and fitness industry for a long time, I had the blessing to work with 1000s of people, literally over a 70 year period, I’ve seen people every day that are coming in. And every single person had their opinion on food and what’s healthy. Like you could stop anyone on the street, everyone’s got an opinion, or they say opinions, like assholes, everyone’s got one, right. So you know, we all formulate beliefs around a topic, and food is the same. Now I had Bruce Lipton on the show not long ago, talking about, you know, the state of the world right now and the virus and how we’ve been living with viruses for, you know, since millette, you know, since the turn of time like that, but the difficulty we were having is that we’re actually creating a society that is not nurturing this, we look like we’re disconnected from our food chain, we are disconnected from food. And what I guess one of the simple things that I think about in a pandemic, is surely I want to support my immune system. So strongly, I want to be making lifestyle choices that are actually going to start to nurture care and feed myself like I love myself and have that healthy respect for my body. And going back to all the 1000s of people I saw everyone used to tell me they ate healthy make nine out of 10 people, ya know, a pretty good. And then the moment we go, well, let’s just Can we just do a food diary. Let’s tell me what you’ve ate over the last 24 hours. And they are and then a moment they started to get it out of the story and put down that oh, well, actually, I you know, I slipped up yesterday, but it’s not a you know, and as well, let’s do the next week. You know, I’m not the majority people wouldn’t keep the food diary because they didn’t want to accept so the story in their mind to the harsh reality. It’s like doing your books in accounting right here. With the credit card is I know I don’t spend it on nothing. What do you want to buy? And then you’re looking at bank statement at the end of month and you go, Oh, Jesus Christ, blown it on. You know, so the point being is that there are so many things we can do in food wise, and this is not, I’m not I’m not telling anyone what they should eat. But what I do, one of the simplest things when people used to ask me was like, well, just think about removing all the processed foods. Imagine what your great grandparents used to eat. When they used to have an allotment in the backyard used to grow their veggies, they would go to the local farmers markets to pick up things. Like what were the things you’d be buying and eating then. You know, yeah, that’s a great place to start. So we got that one. You want

Matt 34:12
to take that on? That That could be a whole like hour in itself? Because Yeah, we have strayed so far from what is actually healthy. And and if you’re not, you know what the podcast you had recently is the gut health. What was that guy’s name? You just put that blurb up.

Guy 34:32
Oh, the Jeffrey ready go one.

Matt 34:34
Yeah, yeah. Talking about the biodome. Huh? Yeah, yeah. Critical. Critical. Yeah. But yeah. So you Why did you save acceptance for last?

Guy 34:46
Well, it’s kind of, for me, it leans into our four pillars from now coaching model, a model is awareness, acceptance, intention and inspired action and We that framework for us. And of course, we break those pillars down, that go deeper in each, each pillar. But for me, they are critical components to creating any long term change in our lives, but more importantly as well, creating harmony, inner peace, within our life, and coming from that place. And from that inner peace, and from those those four pillar pillars and models, it allows us to then start to tune into the subtleties to start to, to expand beyond just what from the analytical thinking mind to, to then start to reconnect to at a deeper level, all the way back to source energy that we talked about as well, which we touched upon at the beginning. And, and yeah, so acceptance was one of them that were there are four of the pillars. And if you want to talk to those, what I’ve just said, just to wrap this,

Matt 35:59
now I just as you were talking was just thinking in my mind about those four pillars and how they are, are important and how we can share it without dropping into a four week or 12 week coaching. That, you know, it’s simple as that, you know, the first pillar is awareness. And I think if you just ask yourself, am I bringing more awareness in my life right now, you know, all through the day, just ask yourself that is this bringing more awareness what I’m doing right now. And not, it’s not awareness of like the latest news, breaking news story, that’s, that’s not the awareness we’re talking about. We’re talking about, you know, the inner awareness what’s going on inside of me the truth to me, awareness of my intuition, my inner self? Is it is this bringing me more awareness? That’s, that’s a simple question you can ask yourself, and that will start to change the dialogue within you. And then once you have that awareness, it’s moving into that acceptance, which is the second quadrant. And it’s then accepting, surrendering, having gratitude for, and forgiveness of the things that are actually going on inside of you. And if you can do that, you’re ahead of the game awareness and acceptance, those two pillars right there, you’re already beating the chaos that’s outside of you, because you’ve found a peace with those two things. And then it’s once you once you get a foundation on those two things, then it’s a an intention, you know, am I then focusing myself in a direction that I want to be moving in my life? Or am I allowing the world around me to push me in a direction that I don’t want to go? and intention is so critical, then to start to nurture in a new version of yourself? A more authentic version of yourself. And then the final component once you’ve got those threes, inspired action, and this, you know, just think that word inspired? Am I am I taking inspired action? Am I doing things that inspire me today? Or am I just surviving? Because those actions, we tend to get so busy, we’re so good at doing things, which becomes a distraction, and a lack of awareness. Instead of Am I coming from my heart and taking action in my life, on things that are meaningful and heartfelt to me. And if we all did those four things, we wouldn’t be met with the same problems, they would be there, but we would meet them differently, and we move through them much more quickly. And I think that’s the important thing to address. It’s like this world, the world is not going to change because it’s going to be different, because you’re different, but it’s not going to be different in itself. It’s how you made it, that’s going to be different how we made it as a humanity that’s going to be different, that’s going to make the change that’s going to allow us to evolve, which is what I feel this is calling forward is an evolution is a growth is a is a shift in our direction as humanity that from stopping to do the things that aren’t serving us so much that will not take us to the evolution that we’re striving to create here. And you know, this is the Mack truck as a humanity. We’ve had the feather, right, we’ve had the feather and we haven’t paid attention. And so now we’ve got the Mack truck. And so are we going to actually take responsibility, and come together in a loving, accepting kind of way to move through this together, or are we going to fight each other and just call it a day? Yeah, I think that’s the choice, isn’t it?

Guy 39:50
Totally, totally. I think also, that’s an amazing place to end this podcast. I would there’s there’s two things I want to mention before we wrap it up. The first One is that if you did get a lot out of this podcast and you think, wow, that’s some great shit to ponder on, you guys are just like rockstars. Just kidding. But if you if you genuinely, if you enjoyed it, please send this to a loved one or friend or share it with someone that you think will will get out of this get something out of this too. That helps us continue to get the word out there. The second thing is, is that this will be live news early next week, which will be I think, early September. So we are actually running a 12 week interactive programme, where you get to catch up with myself, Matt and Petra every week for 12 weeks. And we’ll be guiding you through our whole coaching model to really embody and empower this work. So if you want to be part of that community and part of something it is interactive, it is by application only. But we are very excited, we got an amazing group of people already joined up and we’re there’ll be a few few more spots there. So if you’re listening to this, and this before the 20th of September, and you want to find out more than just email us back at live in flow Cove, just come over to our website as well. And yeah, is there anything you want to add Matt to finish as we wrap up this I

Matt 41:12
just as you were talking, I would love to hear what everyone else is doing. Yeah, you know, if you’re listening to this, and it’s inspired something new, you have other things that are like helping you create harmony and balance through all this and let us know. I’d love to know is that open for learning new things. Totally. Totally.

Guy 41:27
Amazing. All right. Thank you. I hope you enjoyed that. I couldn’t chop a mat up here for the emergency podcast, but next year, maybe next year, next year. We’ll take the top of me. That’s all right. Yeah. Thanks. Cool. Thanks, man. Thanks, everyone.